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An Objective Reality is based on the 2 assumptions that 1) objects exist locally and independently, and 2) that Space and Time are both absolute.

Relativity agrees that objects exist locally and independently, but states that space and time are in fact relative, not absolute.

QM states that space and time are absolute, yet objects do not exist locally and independently.

As you can see it's a basic fundamental conflict between our 2 main theories. Each refutes an objective reality assumption that the other relies on, and yet both claim to support an objective reality because each one can be used to compute an objective result.

>> No.7402277

>>7402254
Science has only 1 true assumption:

The world is orderly.

This means that the world can be measured, through experiment and models can be created which predict the outcomes of experiment.

Relativity and QM are just our current best models. That they do not agree simply means we know our models are not perfect.

>> No.7402283

quantum field theory has been around for a few decades anon

>> No.7402397

>>7402254
>Objective Reality
wtf is this shit?

>> No.7402443

>>7402397
Not into science, huh?

Try >>>/b/

>> No.7402468

>>7402277
^ omg creationist fag spreading propaganda . chaos theory is popular and quantum states anything could happen at any time for no known reason . evolution by modern standards is not simply darwins survival of the fittest . random shit happens like mutations and diseases kill the strong and a trait may be recessive but superior . its thermodynamics (order devolves into chaos)

creationism is god did it all everything is just so because it had to always be just so and nothing changes

>> No.7402481

>>7402277
>The world is orderly

I think the world is chaotic in that order is artificially imposed by god.

>> No.7402489
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7402489

>>7402277
there are some fields that sort of revel in the disorder of things, or rather explore what appears to be orderly and what does not. I mean, I don't know of any physicists who will insist that quantum mechanics will eventually be completely predictable, and there are concepts like order out of disorder in mathematics (pic relate) along with fuzzy logic and the study of entropy.

>> No.7402500

>>7402468
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>> No.7404516

>>7402283
Still based on an assumption