/sci/ - Science & Math

Your statement starts in hypothetical and ends in fact.

>>7327707
Whatever man, I wrote it very quickly. You know what I meant.
I'm just saying that it's possible that we could model future AI systems to be like the deity we've always wished we had.

>>7327704

>People already have ideas for what they want God to be like.

I don't think you really understand why people who believe in a god hold that belief. It's not because they want to create something with the characteristics of a god. It's because they want to believe their life has meaning and is being guided by a supernatural parent figure.

Few people would want to create a god even though many people want to believe reality is the purposeful work of a god.

>>7327713
>Few people would want to create a god
I can think of at least a few melanin-enriched folk who would want that.

>>7327714

No, non-religious people wouldn't want it because it's a dumb idea and religious people wouldn't want it because it'd be going against all the reasons they have for believing their already is a god.

>>7327718
When did I say anything about non-religious people? I was hinting at our diverse British and Swedish friends creating Allah.exe.

>>7327704
I've always thought that a cooler way to go about creating an artificial religion is to have it where the "church"'s mission is to bring people back to life through cryopreservation or some other technological means based on how good of a person they were in their first life. It would be kind of like humanism, but with a sort of afterlife. So basically, the more you help others and society at large, the higher priority you are for being revived.

It could be kind of self-fulfilling because even if we don't have the technology to revive humans now, in all likelihood we will in the future.

>>7327718
When did I say non-religious people would do it? I was hinting at our diverse British and Swedish friends creating Allah.exe. Religion is just made up shit anyway so they could make up shit about Allah speaking to Mohammed through a burning bush in the desert telling them to install gentoo on a distributed computing cluster.

>>7327723

I covered all bases by explaining why neither religious nor non-religious people would want it. All bases is a group of people inclusive of whichever people you mistakenly believe would want it.

>>7327731
see >>7327729

>>7327704

>It doesn't really matter if God doesn't exist, because we will make him exist.

Hasn't that always been the case? At least the more recent religions, to police peoples thoughts and behaviours before they really could. Now that half of us think out loud on the internet they can be.

>>7327729

>Religion is just made up shit anyway

I don't believe in a religion, but I also don't believe religions in general are just made up shit. There are cases where people deliberately create religious beliefs dishonestly, but those tend to be more like cults. I think it's more likely with the major world religions that they weren't based on deliberate lies. I believe ancient religious founders believed they were discovering truths about reality.

OP, your assumption is that God, even a created one, would give a fuck about humanity in the first place.

>>7327769
God, being a supercomputer, needs energy. Humans provide that energy.

>>7327774
Or he can just make some solar panels.

>>7327775
solar panels are currently made of rare materials that don't scale well due to their scarcity
abundance is key for energy sources, hence why we aren't all using solar and wind farms

>>7327742
Made up shit is still made up shit when the people who made it up believed it.

>>7327992

Mentally ill people don't make up their delusions. There's a major difference between lying vs. being sincere but wrong.

>>7327992
You, like pretty much all internet atheists, have been convinced that you have figured out the ultimate truth. You believe everyone else is an idiot or in the least irrational.

Can you tell me what you know about science? Have you studied formal logic? Could you contruct a logical argument for your "factual" belief?

Unfortunately the majority of atheists are just dawkins bandwaggoners with strong delusions about their own intelligence.

>>7328055
>You, like pretty much all nonbelievers in the tooth fairy, have been convinced that you have figured out the ultimate truth. You believe everyone else is an idiot or in the least irrational.
Remember kids, if you want to show a theist to be an idiot, all you have to do is replace "God" with "tooth fairy"

>ctrl+f Roko's Basilik
>No Results

C'mon /sci/, I thought you were better than this

>>7328093
The idea that discussions -- even on /sci/ -- about God could be anything other than atheist/theist arguments induces large amounts of lawls.

Go back to civil discussion threads.

>>7327704
>implying religions create anything

>>7327704

op if you want to write scifi stories you probably could

>>7328084
Remember kids, if you want to show an atheist to be an idiot, all you have to do is let them talk.

>>7328457
>That comeback

>>7327711
Dude humans can't even agree on the nature of the Abrahamic God enough to say whether he's benevolent or malevolent, omnipotent or not, omniscient or not, ontological or not, and so on.

What you're suggesting is seriously science fiction. Which is fine! It could even be interesting to read. But it's not based in anything that could really be reached by modern or near-future technology. It would be a simulation at best and a simulacrum at worst.

>>7327704
OP, please stop talking bullshit. We, the human race, I think will never be capable of imitating nature or creating a >>AI version of a god<<. Stop fucking around. I don't know shit, but enough to know that you aren't asking the right questions.

>>7328509
I bet you just read the thread subject and skipped over what I wrote

>>7327704
http://styrofoam.voidaudio.net/ihavenomouthandimustscream.pdf

Here you go m8.

>>7328550
>I bet
No, you don't "bet" over the Internet, Grandpa.

>>7328509
>I think will never be capable of imitating nature
I knew a guy who was a pro birdcaller once

>>7327704
>What if Abrahamic religions eventually create an AI version of their God?
You are now aware there are active groups with roughly this aim
http://transfigurism.org/