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7296542 No.7296542[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Read "pic related".
Who will be the volunteer if I prove it to you?

Whoever will just say so and we will begin the debate here ( http://godandsouls.freeforums.net/ )

If I'm to do it at your house I'll need to be able to use my computer and have it connected to high speed internet so I can distract myself from the misery of dying by dehydration (where you stop eating and drinking). Also I'll need a comfortable spot to be in all day like sitting on a bed with my back against the wall and a pillow between my back and the wall.

A basic summary of the line of reasoning that proves that you'll go to paradise if you die is that point-like places (called p-lps) exist and that an awareness is aware of the p-lps (called awareness#1 or a#1 for short) exist and that's all that "fundamentally" exists. So since we're not a#1 that is aware of the p-lps, we must be the p-lps themselves. Also since we are aware of things and the other p-lps couldn't have made us aware of things, it must be a#1 that makes us aware of things.

That and the fact that any "What if" question that could be asked and has an answer has the answer simulated so for example "What if there were p-lps within the p-lps that a#1 was aware of that would make the p-lps that had p-lps inside of them aware of [insert what exists now in terms of p-lps]?".

So although it seems that there is such a thing as becoming unconscious forever which is dying, that must not be the case and we must still be aware of things after we die and seemingly become unconscious forever in this world because we as p-lps still exist. So since we can still be aware of things there is no reason for us to be aware of anything but an eternal repeating paradise as whoever created this system of awareness we are in would make it so we are happy since a#1 is good since if it was bad we'd be in a worse situation than we are in now.

The proof by itself doesn't prove what I typed above, but some extra statements by me and it will be proven.

>> No.7296554

>>7296542
>I'm going to steal your food, water and internet for a few days than GTFO

>> No.7296562
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>>7296542
interesting theory, i immediately thought of this picture

>> No.7296567

>>7296554
I would only be over at your house if I convinced you that the afterlife is paradise, and I would come back. There are people suffering in this world and I owe it to them to show them that paradise is attainable.

So it's justified.

Also, than*

>> No.7296578

DON'T JUST BROWSE PASS THIS THREAD WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO BE THE VOLUNTEER BECAUSE EVERYONE THINKS THAT THEREFORE THERE WILL BE NO VOLUNTEERS. THIS IS SOMETHING TOO IMPORTANT TO BE UNWILLING ABOUT.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE EXACTLY? ESSENTIALLY NOTHING.

>> No.7296588

>>7296567
Also, then**

I screwed up my correction of a typo.

>> No.7296595

>>7296578
can you define what a p-lp is and give some evidence for their existence for starters

>> No.7296598

>>7296595
I will explain everything to any and all of the volunteers. However if you're not going to volunteer then I'm sorry but it's a complicated nuanced topic so it'll be too troublesome to explain it to the non-volunteers.

>> No.7296601

>>7296598
ok i volunteer explain it to me

>> No.7296602

Schizophrenia thread? Where my neurobros at?

>> No.7296603

>>7296598
>I have no fucking clue

>> No.7296604

>I want someone to die
good luck in searching.

>> No.7296610

>>7296602
Do we have any easy captcha like tests that is obvious for healthy people but hard for schizophrenics? It's fucking weird how they all flock to /sci/ and I want a way to restrict them making threads.

>> No.7296611

>>7296601
read: >>7296542 specifically...
>Who will be the volunteer if I prove it to you?
>Whoever will just say so and we will begin the debate here ( http://godandsouls.freeforums.net/ )

>> No.7296614

>>7296604
If ISIS can find hundreds who are willing to die for them, then it shouldn't be hard for OP to find one.

>> No.7296621

>>7296610
>>7296602

What proof do you have that what I''m saying isn't true? My incoherent writing? That's because I'm lazy not crazy - it's a nuanced complicated topic like I said before and I'm only going to put in the bare minimum effort to get a volunteer.

But so you don't convince a mod this thread is crazy, what parts did you think were incoherent and I'll better explain them hopefully.

>> No.7296624

>>7296611
>>7296611
>http://godandsouls.freeforums.net/
ok m8 right off the bat you fuck up by saying

>If time was made up of infinitely divisible parts of time then no part of time could pass because for any part of time to pass, there is always a smaller part of time that must first pass since there are an infinite amount of parts of time that are smaller than any part of time

classic zeno's paradox

>> No.7296627

>>7296602
>>7296610
I just re-realized something after not being cognizant of it for a long interim period.

People are suffering. If I have a way to paradise then you shouldn't be funposting in my thread. Take this seriously please.

>> No.7296628

>>7296542
> point-like places (called p-lps) exist
Explain this faggotry!

>> No.7296629

>>7296624
For debating at the forums I meant for you to make a thread and then we'll get started, not to start off in an already made thread.

I won't discuss it here. And again I won't explain it to non-volunteers.

If you volunteer create a thread at the forums I linked to and we can start discussing this information. If not; quit funposting please.

Sorry if I wasn't clear on that point.

>> No.7296632

>>7296629
your very first point is wrong and has been wrong since 430 BC

>> No.7296641

>>7296624
>>If time was made up of infinitely divisible parts of time then no part of time could pass because for any part of time to pass, there is always a smaller part of time that must first pass since there are an infinite amount of parts of time that are smaller than any part of time
The smallest time that can pass is Planck time. No smaller. Time cannot be sub-divided into infinite parts in the physical universe. Planck time is the limit.

>> No.7296642

>>7296632
I guess you'll never know if I can prove myself right because you. won't. volunteer.

>> No.7296643

>>7296614
You mean that ISIS:
Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality, now known as the Family Research Institute, an American anti-gay organization

>> No.7296649

>>7296641
that would be true if the smallest possible amount of distance was a plank length

>> No.7296650

>>7296641
I won't even explain, for what purpose and how that purpose is sound, how I can prove time must be indivisible at some point independent of the scientific reason, if there even is one.

Please stop funposting in my thread, I can bump this thread all by myself thanks. If you're not going to volunteer don't bother posting.

>> No.7296656

>>7296650
I feel like that post was a little harsh, I meant no offense I'm just tired of all the trolls/idiots.

>> No.7296661

>>7296650
>If you're not going to volunteer don't bother posting.
Volunteer and kill yourself.

>> No.7296666

This is disgusting. I was just going to not bother with this nonsense, but there's actually one person on your forum who seems serious about "volunteering".

The only people who are going to even seriously consider agreeing to your proposal are desperate, clinically depressed individuals (which 4chan is in no short supply of). Taking advantage of people with mental illnesses like that is revolting.

Keep your schizophrenic delusions to yourself, OP.

>> No.7296668

>>7296661
You mean I should volunteer myself and die?

Read the picture attached to the OP, I already stated I can't do I where I'm at.

>> No.7296670

why dont you just get a hotel room instead of some anon's house

>> No.7296673

>>7296666
You are assuming this is a schizophrenic delusion, it's not and if you volunteered you'd find that out.

People who are going to seriously consider my proposal could very well be people of reasonable character and intellect who want to see if I can prove that the afterlife is paradise because the implications of proving that are enormous, no more suffering on earth.

Please stop funposting.

>> No.7296677

>>7296670
Room Service.

The fact that it isn't anywhere near as likely as going to some anon's house for there to be someone who sees me doing it and stops me.

>> No.7296681

>>7296677
so you put one of those "do not disturb" cards on the door. problem solved

>> No.7296684

>>7296677
I messed up that sentence.

Basically I think people are more likely to find me and stop me were I to do it at a hotel rather than 'some anon's house'.

>> No.7296686

>>7296681
Just. Stop. Posting.

No offense but you're suggesting ways that are obviously not fool proof.

Someone can disrespect the do not disturb sign and come in.

>> No.7296694

>>7296686
nah, won't happen, not as long as your bill is paid up. pay a couple days in advance, put the sign up, maybe put a doorstop under the door for good measure. if you have to, tip the desk well to let them know not to disturb you.

>> No.7296696

>>7296610

I read up on it and apparently working memory deficits are associated with schizophrenia. We could ask for a captcha that is like a level 5 or 6 version of this: http://www.cogmed.com/working-memory-challenge

It would make it harder for them to post, though I'm guessing they would still keep at it until they succeeded.

>> No.7296698

But If you die, how would you prove, that paradise is real?

>> No.7296710

>>7296698
Great point. I didn't think of that, well I kind of subcosciously/consicously did and left it at that.

I'm guessing I'll be able to do signs and miracles. That or I'll have some special ability that proves that I'm special and I'll say I got this specialness from dying and coming back.

That or I just prove the proof to other people.

But as I believe in God, I think he has it all planned out and will give me a way to show that I am a prophet.

I know that sounds delusional and to be perfectly honest I'm incredibly lazy so I'm not going to explain myself as good as maybe would be required for you to believe me, but basically my belief in god coupled with some possible ways of proving I'm from another world (like being able to perform signs and miracles) guarantees me a way to spread the knowledge.

>> No.7296718

>>7296698
This might get me banned but mods please read the context, I might be given the power to kill everyone then resurrect them. Just a possible way of proving that paradise is real.

See in The Holy Qur'an a guy got killed by a thunderbolt then came back to life so it's not unprecedented and that's not to say I believe whatever The Holy Qur'an says but I believe God exists and he would provide guidance for humanity perhaps in the form of books.

>> No.7296719

>>7296718
And the evidence I have for god existing and how I define god are limited but still provide enough plausibility for the provisions he would most likely (%99.99...) provide humanity.

>> No.7296721

>>7296710

I'll volunteer if you try this test >>7296696 and let me know how far you get before you start failing.

>> No.7296724

>>7296686
Hey, what if the neighbors start knocking on the door while you're in your dehydration death throes?

>> No.7296725 [DELETED] 

Why don't you volunteer yourself faggot, are you scared? Hahaha why don't you pray about it

>> No.7296728

What if I told you monkeys are conscious too. Then monkeys are plps or whatever too? Then why not buy a monkey and hang yourself.

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>>7296721
Could've easily went to level 7 but I made stupid mistakes, that and my mouse wouldn't appear in the game while the boxes were lighting up.

>> No.7296733

Why do you need a volunteer? Can't you just stream it over ustream?

>> No.7296738

>>7296724
Ignoring a neighbor's knocking is much more feasible then getting no one to come to your hotel room. Wait, this is actually an okay idea.

But I don't have the funds.

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7296739

>>7296710
>>7296718
>>7296719
lol. you're batshit insane.

>> No.7296745

>>7296733
Yeah but where would I do it? I stated in the OP image that I can't do it where I'm at.

>>7296728
I don't follow, what would buying a monkey and hanging myself have to do with anything? It is true that monkeys are p-lps though if they're conscious.

>> No.7296746

Go to the Catholic church and tell them you're Jesus. Plenty of volunteers I bet.

>> No.7296750

why not just pitch a tent out in the wilderness

>> No.7296751

>>7296739
Please stop funposting, if you see something wrong explain how it is wrong, if I thought I was insane I wouldn't be posting what I'm posting so I obviously disagree that I'm insane so saying it isn't going to lead to some sort of revelation in my thinking. That's unlikely.

But if you explain why you think I'm insane I can refute it and change YOUR mind.

>> No.7296753

>>7296751
We can't refute shit based on nothing since there is nothing to refute. That said, talk to your mom about this maybe she can slap some sense into you.

>> No.7296754

>>7296751
your entire metaphysical theory is based on xeno's paradox - however, the fact that you're moving around right now typing on the computer is proof that xeno's paradox must be wrong somehow

your theory cannot be correct. you will die, there is no paradise, you're not coming back

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7296755

>>7296751
Arguing with insane people is a waste of time.

>> No.7296756

>>7296710
If people get this power after die. Why they didnt tell about this before? I think God (unless he is exist) wont let you to earth.

>> No.7296757

>>7296750
Get bored too easily. Boredom is unbearable.

I guess this is the result of over-stimulation in a technological society.

>>7296746
They wouldn't even think I'm the Antichrist (antichrist is claimed to be a person who will claim to be the messiah iirc), they'd just get me put in a mental health facility I bet.

>> No.7296761

>>7296757
>they'd just get me put in a mental health facility I bet.
I don't see a problem with this.

>> No.7296763

>funposting

OP, do you brose [s4s]?

>> No.7296765

>>7296757
>God exist
What are you doing on sci.

>> No.7296767

hey OP have you considered that when you dehydrate yourself, instead of letting your soul go to paradise, you'll be completely destroying its substance in an irreparabel way?

>> No.7296768

>>7296751
>Guys I'm not insane because I said so

Your whole premise here cannot be taken seriously. You're claiming to be a prophet who can show people "paradise". You don't seem to have evidence other than "you have to believe me." You claim that you can die and come back to life. This sounds like hokey pokey biblical shit.

Either this or your baiting. I'll prefer to believe the latter

>> No.7296770

>>7296753
Do you understand what the post you quoted was saying?

I was saying to someone who said I'm insane to provide reasons why he thought I was insane so *I* could refute those reasons, not that he can't refute my proof.

>>7296754
If you volunteered I could show you how your misunderstanding/misrepresenting or just in an unexplainable-without-explaining-my-proof way wrong.

So volunteer, you literally have nothing to lose. If I don't convince you then you nor I die.

>>7296755
That may be true, but you're assuming I'm insane, that is what is at question here.

>>7296756
Good point, but maybe I'll get the power since I know how to prove that paradise is after death without the power so the power would just be a way to show that you should listen to what I have to say.

Or if I don't get any sort of specialness after coming back (I think this is very unlikely) then idk.

>> No.7296774

>>7296770
>So volunteer, you literally have nothing to lose. If I don't convince you then you nor I die.
unless you're wrong, in which case what i have to lose is my life

>> No.7296776

I hope I won't have to see your fucking face on the news OP.
Get the fuck out of here.

>> No.7296779

>>7296763
No I just don't like to curse.

>>7296765
Stopping the circlejerk. Providing insight into the other side's viewpoint. IDK.

>>7296767
The proof that I have shows that not to be possibly the case.

>>7296768
I do have evidence, compelling evidence, or in actuality proof, it's just that I'm not going to waste my time on just anyone who comes here saying 'show me the goods and we'll discuss', no, you first have to volunteer and then we can discuss the proof after I show it to you.

What exactly do you have to lose by volunteering? You'll only die if I can prove that the afterlife is paradise so please please PLEASE tell me what you have to lose?

>> No.7296780

>>7296770
You're insane because your want to commit suicide based on the false notion you will go into Paradise. At least religitatds have the indoctrination excuse, you're just bullshitting all the way to mars. Also: "I can't tell you you need to bereeve first" is bollocks. How can I believe in something you haven't even explained yet. As the guy from your forum pointed out, your entire thing is based on false notions of physics. I bet your smoke weed, did lsd or suffered a severe head trauma.

>> No.7296781

Oh lord. Look at this thread.

>> No.7296784

>>7296774
If I'm wrong then how the fuck could I convince you?

Holy shit 10/10 you got me to curse.

>>7296776
Quit funposting please. If you have an issue with what I'm proposing, be mature and state it so we can discuss it. I'm not just going to leave because I make your assumptions about life uncomfortable.

>> No.7296787

>Police: So what is your explanation of there being a dead body in your house, cause of death being starvation?
>V: I volunteered.
>Police: You volunteered? Hahaha alrighty fucko tell that to the judge

>> No.7296789

>>7296780
I CAN'T TELL YOU BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME ON A NON-VOLUNTEER, ON A VOLUNTEER YOU DON'T JUST HAVE TO 'BEREEVE ME' WE WILL DISCUSS THE PROOF THAT I WILL PRESENT ONCE I GET A VOLUNTEER, AND PRESENT IT ONLY *TO* THAT VOLUNTEER.

How do you even know that it is a false notion that I will go to paradise? You don't, you're assuming I'm wrong when all you have to do is s volunteer to get the reasoning that proves you go to paradise after you die.

>>7296781
What about it?

>> No.7296791

>>7296784
>be mature
But it is you who is being immature, anon.

>> No.7296796

This thread was fun and all, but you really should see a psychiatrist.

>> No.7296797

>>7296789
Yet here you are, wasting your time. What is your time worth anyway, you're going to kill yourself, no?

Also, I think this guy is a cannibal trying to find a volunteer who is actually stupid and gullible enough to agree with this.

>> No.7296799

>>7296789
instead of explaining it 50 times to 50 people, explain it once on here.

how are people falling for this bait so hard

>> No.7296800

>>7296789
Explain here, and you're more likely to attract a volunteer, and you can better understand... whatever it is you're saying, and therefore explain it to that volunteer better.

>> No.7296802

>>7296787
Ok I didn't realize that angle before. Hm, this is a sticky mess how do I get out of this one.

Oh say that you didn't know I stopped eating and drinking and that... crap idk you got me on this one, either someone will have to pay the hotel/motel fees for me or someone will have to die themselves.

Wow I honestly didn't think of this before, everything was going along so smoothly so I thought it would continue that way.

Your post made me laugh though 9k1/10

>> No.7296803

>>7296779
You could just be setting up us for some mass suicide program where you kill everyone in the room with poison or some shit. Your claims are extremely suspicious. I don't know if you realize how ridiculous it sounds to claim to be a prophet in the 21st century.

You're not going to get anyone to volunteer from here. The notion of witches and prophets went out the window a long time ago. As for paradise after death... well... a lot of people make that claim after ingesting DMT. And near death experiences can cause a surge of that in the brain. Perhaps you experiences something like that one time somehow.

>> No.7296804

If god wanted there to be proof of an afterlife he could do it himself, as he is all powerful. Therefore he wouldn't send you back to earth.

Also, suicide is a sin and you would go to hell.

>> No.7296809

>>7296779
Why do you think , that you will come back!!!
There are a lot of people died in the past, but no one came back!! It is very stupid.

>> No.7296813

>>7296796
>>7296791
There are people suffering in the world. If I have a way to give them a way to stop their suffering and be in paradise, why wouldn't you take that potential possibility seriously?

>>7296797
Not just time, effort.

I'd have to be a cannibal that proved that the afterlife is paradise, odds are pretty low on that one. But anyone could be a cannibal, the person you pass by on the street could be one so that's a moot point.

>>7296799
There is no 'explain it once one here', explaining it here and I get '50 people' all with their unique misunderstanding.. If I explain once on my forum to a volunteer, then I only get one set of unique misunderstandings that I have to deal with.

>>7296800
Read my response to the above guy, if you guys want the proof so bad, volunteer.

But I just realized something as of this post: >>7296802

>> No.7296816

>>7296789
Listening to you so far, I don't think you actually know what a proof is.

I mean, are you going to actually prove something, or are you just going to go around using every logical falicy in the book? I'm guessing that you are ready to start with a good 'proof by example', maybe throw in a 'false dilemma' or two, 'false implication', maybe some confirmation bias, and when your experiment doesn't work, blame it on the volunteer using the 'no true Scotsman' argument.

Tl; dr, you can't prove anything. You a high school student who thinks he's smarter than he is.

>> No.7296817

>>7296779
What proof? You have no proof. You have conjecture, nothing more.

>> No.7296821

Remember to sage, guys.

>> No.7296822

>>7296821
>implying sage still exists

>> No.7296823

>>7296822
>implying it doesn't

>> No.7296829

>>7296821
But you forgot.

>> No.7296830

>>7296813
>give them a way to stop suffering
>ayy just kill yourself it will stop the suffering!!
This is what we do to dogs

>> No.7296833

>>7296803
If I was a mass murderer, I'd have to be a mass murderer, like I said before, that a) has a proof that after death is paradise and b) proved that proof to you through your misunderstandings.

So it's almost like, if I was a mass murderer, it'd be a good thing if I was right about their being paradise after death, but I'm not just taking people's lives left and right, I'm coming on the internet to seek to prove it to someone so they or I or both of us can die with consent. And dieing wouldn't be a bad thing if after death there was paradise which is what I'm proposing to prove to whoever volunteers.

>>7296804
How do you know such a god exists? That's not my definition of God, and isn't the majority of the planet's either. Most conceptions of God involve him sending down prophets, not doing it himself.

Suicide may be a sin but remember where it says that 'it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for a single letter of the law to no longer be valid' or something to that effect? Well that shows that suicide being a sin could no longer be valid.

>>7296809
How do you know no one came back? Do you know what would happen if someone said they came back from the dead? They'd get put in a mental health facility until they changed their minds.

>> No.7296836

>>7296822
It is, you can test it on any page 10 threads that didn't reach bump limit.

>> No.7296844

>>7296833
>if I was an A, I'd have to be an A
Nice circular reasoning, Dexter.

>> No.7296846

>>7296816
https://www.google.com/search?q=define+proof

First definition. Also I'm not going to use any logical fallacies, look if you're scared to be the volunteer (for irrational reasons as you'd only consent to dieing if i convinced you that the afterlife is paradise) then that's fine, just don't funpost in my thread, I can bump it by myself thanks no offense.


>>7296817
How do I not have proof?

>>7296821
>>7296822
>>7296823
>>7296829
>>7296830
There. Are. People. Suffering. In. The. World.

What I've been saying, isn't something you should joke around, troll, or just in general funpost about. It's something you should take seriously, dead serious.

>> No.7296849

>>7296844
Read the rest of the statement, I was saying if i was a mass murderer I'd have to be a mass murderer that has a ... the rest is stated in the post you quoted so I won't bother repeating it.

>> No.7296852

>>7296846
Yes and killing them will solve it? By your twisted logic we should all kill ourselves. You're a mental case probably beyond repair. I hope you try your hypothesis on yourself first, if you're not a pussy about it. Certainly, if you have the proof nothing can go wrong right? Right?

>> No.7296853

>>7296846
But when you start out your 'proof' with "assume that God exists" then you have already failed

>> No.7296859

>>7296853
Will someone just volunteer already, then come back with his 'proof' so we can dissect it to see which anon that was "funposting" was right?

>> No.7296864

>>7296853
I changed the proof's beginning statement about God. Sorry about that.
>>7296852
I would do it myself but like I stated in the OP Image I can't do it where I'm at.

You call my logic twisted but offer no explanation for me to refute, looks like you're scared of being proven wrong.

>> No.7296865

>>7296833
Thats mean , you think that dead people live among us. It would be hard to hide that.

>> No.7296868

>>7296859
Why don't *YOU* volunteer?

When everyone has the mentality 'why doesn't someone else do it?' then it never gets done.

VOLUNTEER, YOU - WHO ARE READING THIS RIGHT NOW, VOLUNTEER. I SHOULD GET MULTIPLE VOLUNTEERS AFTER THIS POST. IF NOT YOU GUYS ARE NOT TRUE MEN OF SCIENCE, BUT BOYS OF MATH.

>> No.7296874

>>7296864
Face it, your entire proof depends on god. I'm getting ready to volunteer just so you will kill yourself.

>> No.7296875

>>7296846
>How do I not have proof?
you havent shown anything but opinion and conjecture

>> No.7296877

>>7296865
How would it be hard to hide?

Also it's not dead people living among us since they came back from the realm of the dead to the realm of the living so they'd be considered 'alive' people or just people.

>> No.7296878 [DELETED] 

>>7296868
And you are a faggot of cocks.

>> No.7296882

>>7296874
It doesn't depend on you believing in god, no, it doesn't. It just made a nice little piece of evidence valid if you did, but it's not necessary. The evidence was icing on the cake that is the proof,

>> No.7296884

>>7296877
You can't even prove the continuum of consciousness through sleep, prove to me you don't die every time you go to sleep.

>> No.7296885

>>7296868
People will volunteer if you explain.

Also, how did you get suicide is not a sin from that Bible verse, as that Bible verse explicitly states that all laws and teachings of the Bible remain valid, and suicide being a sin is one of those.

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7296889

>>7296882

>> No.7296890

>>7296885
Because suicide is cos and not sin :^)

>> No.7296891

>>7296882
see >>7296875

>> No.7296895

>>7296864
>You call my logic twisted but offer no explanation for me to refute, looks like you're scared of being proven wrong.

This is literally exactly what you are doing, you won't explain any of your logic, citing that it would be a "waste of time" but that is 100% bullshit because you have done nothing but post in this thread uselessy for the past 2 hours.

Unless you start posting your proofs we have no choice but to conclude you are a complete fraud, you do realize you have ZERO credibility until you post something concrete. Just because YOU believe that we should just trust you or whatever is good enough, doesn't mean it is logical for us to. You are just a random anon.

Since I already know you won't start posting your proofs I have therefore just proved you are a fraud.

>> No.7296896

>>7296859

He already posted it as a pdf on the forums linked at the beginning of the thread. It won't let me link it but it's publicly viewable. Not sure why he's teasing it here.

>> No.7296897

>>7296882
>if you believe in god it makes my argument of the existence of god true
Religion in a nutshell, people.

>> No.7296898

>>7296890
TRIGgered

>> No.7296900

>>7296884
It's not communicable, but I know through memory that I'm the same person consciousness-wise that fell asleep yesterday.

This is bullshit that only people who have nothing of use to offer argue about though so I'd rather not discuss this.

>>7296885
I will explain if people volunteer. People have nothing to lose by volunteering so I won't eplain until people volunteer.

Where does it state that all laws and teachings of the bible will remain valid forever?

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke%2016:17

>> No.7296902

>>7296877
You think , that all this people silent without any agreement. And also , if they do it specially, what about chaotic unknowing people. Probability of not reveal Is very small.

>> No.7296904

>>7296900
Yet a robot who has been given another robots memory will say the same, yet the original might just as well have been destroyed. You have proven nothing.

>> No.7296906

>>7296902
>new chaotic unknowing people
Fix.

>> No.7296917

>>7296846
I'm not sure you actually understand the definition that you posted here. Even your OP image is fucked up. It reads "I have PROOF that you will MOST LIKELY...

just kill yourself already.

>> No.7296918

>>7296875
That's because I'm only willing to put the effort into explaining away someone's particular misunderstandings if they are willing to volunteer, it'd be a waste of effort to do otherwise.

>>7296897
Look, i'll say it again; You do not need to believe in god for my proof to be a proof, I edited the .pdf to show that.

>>7296895
Because explaining my logic would require a significant amount of thought-effort, refuting everyone's silly attempts to invalidate me cost next to zero thought-effort.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE BY VOLUNTEERING? ANSWER ME THAT.

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE, I REALLY WONDER WHY NO ONE WILL VOLUNTEER?

Except for >>7296802

I guess that's why people won't volunteer, I need to think of something to counter that, any ideas?

>> No.7296923

>>7296904
Yah, kinda sounds like that movie "Dark City", huh?

>> No.7296927

>>7296918
I have time in jail to lose. But look buddy if you just want to do a mass suicide, go to /x/ or /b/, enough suckers there.

>> No.7296929

>>7296900
>People have nothing to lose by volunteering
And you have nothing to lose by explaining, and people won't volunteer until you explain.

Did I say forever? But it's obviously for a long time, after the end of humanity's lifespan.
"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than one tittle of the law to fail."
The scientifically illiterate goat herders who wrote the Bible thought the "heaven and earth" were constants (being scientifically illiterate), so that's why it is used in this verse - it's easier for constants to break down than the Word of God to be rendered invalid.
Remember, anons- sage is your friend with b8 like this.

>> No.7296931

>>7296918
>any ideas?
Yes, buy a gun and kill yourself that way, much faster than dehydration.

Also, you did nothing to refute>>7296895 and actually did exactly as I said you would, citing "wasting time", thus proving you are a fraud.

>> No.7296934

>>7296927
An excellent point. Why is OP even on /sci/ with this shit. He would definitely get a volunteer on /b/

>> No.7296935

>>7296931
The only proof in this thread so far...

>> No.7296937

>>7296904
Well I guess it's not provable either way, so why bother discussing it? Discuss things that actually we can affect and matter.

>>7296902
Your English is too bad for me to understand sorry.

>>7296917
If I could've killed myself already, if there was a way I was comfortable doing it that was possible, I'd have already done it.

Why do you still think I don't understand what proof means, what have I stated that makes you think I don't? Can you just tell me already?

How is my OP image fucked up?

I have proof that proves that it is very likely for x to happen. If you think that makes me not know what proof means then I'm sorry to tell you but you're wrong.

>> No.7296940

>>7296937
He is saying you're proposing some conspiracy where everyone who has come back from the dead is keeping silent in unison. Fair point actually, how would you solve this dilemma?

>> No.7296946
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7296946

Here we go...

>> No.7296950

>>7296937
>How is my OP image fucked up?

first of all, you have a dirty mouth. Second of all, you can start to add credibility to the statement in your OP image if you can tell us where you got the 99.99% number. Did you calculate this, or do you have some other way of justifying this percentage?

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2/7

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3/shit

>> No.7296956

>>7296946
Exactly. Page 1. "Given that god exists..." thats a pretty big given. you got exactly shit OP.

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diarrhea/7

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Q

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mEme

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>>7296946
>It helps if you believe god exists but is not necessary
>This information is meant for those who believe god exists

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Done

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>>7296946
>>7296952
>>7296955
>>7296958
>>7296961
>>7296964
>>7296968

>> No.7296971

>>7296927
Already went to /x/ & /b/, both of them were too dumb to understand they had basically nothing to lose.

>>7296927
Ok so let's think of a way it could be done without you having to risk jail time.

>>7296929
not comfortable with that method of death as i could be in excruciating pain for a significant amount of time before dying since I don't have proof that killing myself that way is instantaneous.


>>7296931
I did refute >>7296895, you said I could've posted the proof and discussed it instead of posting what I've been posting and I said that
that would require much more thought-effort which is why I'm not doing it.

>>7296929
How do you know people won't volunteer before i explain? And I do have something to lose by explaining, the misery of putting in the effort.

How do you know it's for a long time after the end of humanity's lifespan?

You can't reference the Bible as if it's accurate and then discredit it as being made be dumb people.

>> No.7296972

>>7296952
"If an infinite amount of sequential events had to have finished happening before the present could happen then the present would've never happened because an infinite amount of sequential events can never finish happening."

It sounds like you don't understand infinity very well. Are you talking about a countably infinite set or an uncountably infinite set? And an infinity of what size?

riddle me this genius: what is infinity minus infinity?

>> No.7296978

>>7296929
Also if they thought that the Bible couldn't be wrong then they could've just said that, but they didn't, they said what they said, so your interpretation is obviously wrong.

>> No.7296980

>>7296972
Its the oldest classic in the book: Xeno's paradox, which is false. There, I refuted one of your prime premises. Debunked. Killed. Rekt.

>> No.7296985

>>7296952
"There was a first event"

For fucks sake, you ever heard of a loop? Where does a circle start? Im only on page 2 and this bullshit is exactly what I was guessing. Its not a proof. Its full of holes and was obviously written by a high school student.

>> No.7296991

>>7296971
Get a gun. Shoot yourself in the head through the temple. Instant death.

Simple logic. Psychology. Extrapolation from the patterns exhibited by humans everyday and throughout history.
You're promising and afterlife, without proof or an explanation, and expecting people to believe. It's in nobody's best interest, it's an illogical deal and it just seems like a bad idea


>You can't reference the Bible as if it's accurate
And I did this... where?

>discredit it as being made be dumb people.
And I did this... when?

.>>7296978
Your non sequitur skills are strong.
>they could've just said that,
>I think the Bible just says things straight out with no interpretation
>I've never read the Bible

>> No.7296998

>>7296542
>>>/x/

>> No.7297003

>>7296991
>You're promising and afterlife, without proof or an explanation, and expecting people to believe.

Nope, I'm saying you should volunteer to be
the one that agrees to die or let me die IF i PROVE that the afterlife is paradise.

>>7296985
>>7296980
>>7296972

Ah, if you never volunteer you'll never know how I can explain how I'm right even with disagreements.

But let this thread be put on pause, I have some thinking to do as a result of >>7296802

>> No.7297010

Just kill yourself and record it (stream it as well), and we'll see the evidence.

Nice proof as well m9. Totally not based on false premises right off the bat.

>> No.7297023

>>7296972
>"Paradoxes can't exist" - Paradoxes exist everywhere. Just because *you* don't understand them doesn't mean they aren't real.

>"A#1 feels itself being aware of s#1 as feeling a point like place existing" - Maybe your bible can explain this one to me?

>"If there was a PLP next to PLP1 it would have to be a non zero, finite distance away" - points are dimensionless, so this is not true. you could easily have two points with no distance between them that are still separate.

As I originally assumed, this is seriously logically flawed

>> No.7297025

>>7297003
Here's a valid logical proof for you:
P1: If someone makes bullshit claims and believes in them, this person is retarded.
P2: Person OP makes bullshit claims and believes in them.
Ergo: Person OP is retarded.

>> No.7297034

Why is /sci/ so easy to troll?

>> No.7297043

>>7296696
>tfw highest level 6

Just kill me now.

>> No.7297057

>>7297003
I'll never know how you can explain how you're right because your wrong. You logic is fucked. You make all kinds of assumptions. You pull number out of your ass like 99.99%. As anon pointed out, your entire argument is just a recapitulation of Xenos paradox. You clearly don't understand the theory of limits presented in even the most basic calculus class, you don't understand dimensionality or the fact that points are dimensionless, you try to obfuscate your bullshit argument by writing an unnecessarily complex document in the hopes that, what, someone will just give up on reading it and believe you at face value?

Whats your end game here OP? are you trying to lure people in to some weird personal situation in a hotel? Are you a psych student trying to test out what type of bait works best?

Also, A/S/L? I might meet up with you if your reasonably close.

>> No.7297059

>>7296937
I mean , that people , who died recently, fail this conspiracy.

>> No.7297079

>>7297057
Also, the number 1 indicator that you are full of shit is that you think dehydration is an easy way to kill yourself. I mean, seriously? Your not afraid of spending 2 long weeks in agony, but your afraid that a bullet would take too long?

It's because the dehydration out gives you some time after you've met up with someone to do whatever it is you plan on doing.