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NASA has released a new image of Ceres' bright spots, taken on May 16th, with a resolution of approximately 700 meters per pixel.

>> No.7274571 [DELETED] 

ayy lamo

>> No.7274572
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Gerald of JPL created this image, with eight fold magnification and contrast stretched to pure black and pure white.

>> No.7274574

It has to be some kind of luminescent rock.

>> No.7274588
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The attached image is a Features of Interest map generated before Dawn's arrival at Ceres based on Hubble Space Telescope Data. You can see that the bright spots of Ceres are labeled Feature Five in this map.


Unfortunately, the image in >>7274562 is extremely compressed. The images released so far are based on the compressed, 44 KB jpeg. The uncompressed data remains private at this time.

>> No.7274600

>>7274574
>It has to be some kind of luminescent rock.

It isn't luminescent. It's just brightly colored.

>> No.7274642

Is it a alium?

>> No.7274643

>>7274642

Still unknown. Probabilistically speaking? Probably not.

>> No.7274644

>>7274562
Obviously an alium crash site.

>> No.7274687

>>7274642
I don't think it's aluminium

>> No.7274690
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>>7274644

It's surprisingly hard to find good images for cross referencing that hypothesis. None of the bright spots give a good indication for a shallow impactor, which would makes it less likely that the fan pattern of darker material radiating from the central crater with the bright spots is impact ejecta associated with the bright material.

>> No.7274693

>>7274690
Way to rip my heart out anon, :(

>> No.7274789

>>7274588
>The uncompressed data remains private at this time.

That means it's aliums for real and they have to photoshop the images, right?

>> No.7275157
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← zoom & enhance

>> No.7275198
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>>7274572
Fuck

>> No.7275208

enhance

>> No.7275337

>>7275198
x_files.mp3

>> No.7275685
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>> No.7275806

>>7274642
Onions would not grow on Ceres.

>> No.7275813

>>7274562
looks like how a fungus would grow in a petri dish

>> No.7275820

>>7274588

What is that map showing?

Temperature range?

Is there volcanic activity there?

>> No.7275825

>>7275820

No, it's just albedo. It's basically just contrast enhancement.

>> No.7275933

Looks like an impact signature to me.

>> No.7275936

so many alienz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSnU_LKi5vs

>> No.7275977

>>7274562
Ayy Lmao

>> No.7277187
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There's a dark line running between the bright spots across multiple frames. It seems to be right on the edge of Dawn's resolving power at the imaged distance.

>> No.7277258

>>7277187
must be a bridge

>> No.7277272

>>7277187
some sort of land line cabling obviously
aliums have dank fiber connections in there for spaceternet connections

>> No.7277334
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I just wish the science teams released an actual .tif rather than re-sampling the jpeg.

>> No.7277340

>>7275820
Albedo. In other words, it's a map of shininess.

>> No.7277352

>>7274562
How big are these spots?

>> No.7277354

>>7274562
Ceres is a giant brain and those two dots are the eyeballs.

>> No.7277361

>>7277352
Hard to tell with a saturated CCD & a compressed image, but the center one seems to have a diameter of ~11.2 kilometers. Likewise, the two on the right seem to have a combined diameter of 11.2 kilometers. The dark band (possibly a rift or valley) running between the two bright spots looks to be about 8.77 kilometers long.

>> No.7277381

aaaaaaaay, I hope we find some aliums

>> No.7277399

>>7274571
ayy fail

>> No.7277417

>>7277381
Let's say the super unlikely case it's an alien facility actually happens. will Nasa reveal it to us or make a cover-up story?

If they reveal it to us, how will society react?

>> No.7277428
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>>7274562

Obviously a weather balloon.

>> No.7277441
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>>7277417
I hope there will be rape.

>> No.7277453

>>7274562

someone post the gif please.

>> No.7277460

>>7277428

shut it down!

>> No.7277569

>>7275933
Please, explain why.

>>7274789
No.

>>7277361
>(possibly a rift or valley)
Resolution, is too low to say this with any confidence what so ever, Why do you think it cannot be a ridge? Or who knows what else?
>It is 1 pixel wide.

>>7277453
What .gif? There are dozens. Do some hunting, anon.

>> No.7277706
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>>7277453
This one?

>> No.7277711

>>7277569
>Resolution, is too low to say this with any confidence what so ever, Why do you think it cannot be a ridge? Or who knows what else?

It's not impossible, but the reduced brightness relative to the rest of Ceres' topography seems evocative of a depression, rather than a ridge. Other features, which are more clearly resolved, suggest that a depression is a likely explanation.

>> No.7277737

>>7274562
REMOVE ALIENS FROM PREMISES

>> No.7277746
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>>7277737
Serbia cannot into space.

>> No.7277747

Assuming this was a crashed alien spaceship and i was NASA, and taking into account the technology on the probe when would i know if it was a crashed spaceship or not?

Because there is absolutely no way in hell NASA would ever let this information go public.

If that was a crashed spaceship whichever country got there first would rule the world and universe. There would be the biggest motherfucking space race of all time to get there.

America would literally say there probe malfunctioned and died but confirmed it was ice. Immediately secretly start building a rocket to fly out and recover it and divert the entire countries resources to this but have to keep it secret.

Fun times

>> No.7277760

>>7277747
>Because there is absolutely no way in hell NASA would ever let this information go public.
>If that was a crashed spaceship whichever country got there first would rule the world and universe. There would be the biggest motherfucking space race of all time to get there.

First flaw in your hypothesis: NASA does not have exclusive access or control of the images captured by Dawn. The Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research built and operates the framing camera.

Second flaw: you're operating on the assumption that NASA will keep this secret. There is no reason to assume this is the prevailing modus operendi; aliens would simplify geopolitics substantially for the space-faring nations, and give them a political policy cudgel of unprecedented power and reach.

Finally, I'd wager that the folks who do space program stuff would love, more than almost anything, to be the ones to announce that We Are Not Alone to the whole world, forever cementing their place in history.

"They'll keep it a secret" does not make any sense without assuming that they already know and are already keeping it a secret.

>> No.7277766

>>7277760

thats awesome then that NASA doesnt own the camera.

I would love to see an all in everything on the line space race between every country on this planet to get to the crashed ship first and get the technology.

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>>7274562
So what is it?

>> No.7277769

>>7277746
How about Germany? That will do, surely.

>> No.7277772

>>7277769
They will not be able to stop it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZhtT-dUyo

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>>7277767
I've never seen one before, no one has, but I'm guessing it's a white hole.

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>>7277784
A white hole?

>> No.7277792

>>7274643
>Probabilistically speaking?
>Probably
Lrn2probabilly

>> No.7277793
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>>7277790
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the universe, a white hole returns it

>> No.7277797
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>>7277793
Is that thing spewing time back into the universe?

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>>7277797
Precisely! That's why we're experiencing these curious time phenomena on board.

>> No.7277808
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>>7277804
What time phenomenon?

>> No.7277816
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>>7277808
Like just then when time repeated itself

>> No.7277818

It has to be some kind of luminescent rock

>> No.7277819

>>7277818
It's not emitting light. It was never emitting light. It's long since confirmed that the bright spots are a reflective, not luminescent, feature.

>> No.7277826

>>7274572

Spot on the left looks odd.

>> No.7277829

>>7275198

toppest of keks

>> No.7277833
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>>7274562
So what is it?

>> No.7277836

>>7277187

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

L
M
A
O

>> No.7277840

>>7277760

None of this negates the FACT that if it was determined to be an artificial feature, secretly or not, there would be another space race to get there.

It would be like the holy grail..... Or pandora's box heh.

& by pandora I don't mean blue furfag ayylmaos either, I mean DEATH!

>> No.7277841

>>7277833
I've never seen one before, no one has, but I'm guessing it's a white hole.

>> No.7277843

>>7277841
A white hole?

>> No.7277844

>>7277841
a white hole?

>> No.7277845
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>>7277844
Hey wait a minute! I missed the discussion.

>> No.7277848
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>>7277845

We all did

>> No.7277876
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7277876

Let's try to get this back on track. Plotted course of the apparent fault line that runs through Feature 5.

>> No.7277899
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>>7277876

The smoking gun there, once you know ceres has liquid water under the outer layer and it vents out jets of steam like this, it becomes pretty clear what those spots are. Especially since its on a fault line.

>> No.7277917

>>7277746
Don't be so sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXhDozNKrNA

>> No.7277922

>>7277917
full with english subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQwNuT6QkIE

>> No.7277931

>>7277899
that's an artist's impression
Herschel team said 'traces of water'.

>> No.7278036

>>7277767
>>7277784
>>7277790
>>7277793
>>7277797
>>7277804
>>7277808
>>7277816
>>7277833
>>7277845
>>7277848


I like you anon, you are great, keep doing what you are doing.

>> No.7278207

>>7277779
Jeez, Crees, just pop that out already.

>> No.7278210

looks like this 'light'
both related?
time will tell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va4YtsZJ_F8

>> No.7278221
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>>7277187
It's happening!

>> No.7278243

>>7277760
>The Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research built and operates the framing camera.

Hey, that institute is where I live. Niceeee.

>> No.7278359

>>7277899
nice try govment shill

>> No.7278441
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A new image from the OpNav8 sequence was released. It's much less compressed than the recent bright spots image was.

>> No.7278453
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>Be alium on Ceres Forward Observation Base
>Tasked with flying reconnaissance missions to Earth
>Retard pilots keep crashing their saucers
>Giving the earthlings more and more tech
>Eventually they start flying their own reconnaissance missions towards us
>Don't want to tell superiors on Xenu that we fucked up
>Redirect asteroid towards Earth
>Boom
>Pack up, leave say observation subjects were destroyed in a freak asteroid impact
>Superiors actually believe it
>Ayy lmao

And that is how Human civilization will end. #Stayawayfromceres

>> No.7278457

>>7274562
Obviously a crashed alium spaceship. Look at that debris field.

>> No.7278462

>>7278457
How can they be so advanced yet crash into a rock? Also if a ship that big hit Ceres wouldn't it have vapourized?

>> No.7278467

>>7278462
Nah bruh, aliums make mistakes too. Nothing is perfect. And who knows what kind of material their ships are made out of.

>> No.7278471

>>7278441
That looks sweet. I wonder if those "suture mark"-like features are the result of a highly destructive event or even the processes of Ceres' formation.

>> No.7278570

>>7277777

>> No.7278575

>>7278462

>fighting against the Xergum empire's overwhelming fleet
>stray phased torpedo hits the ship and pierces through the aft, breaking the rudder and exiting through the central deck completely destroying the sails
>The ships crew however heroically continues firing despite the damage and, and eventually finds it's place resting place on a small dead rock

>> No.7278894

>>7274562
How does another far off picture of the spots help anything?

>> No.7278933

guys it's ice or something reflecting sunlight. It's not actually producing any

>> No.7278994

>>7278894
Take what you can get, anon; it's an ion drive powered spacecraft with low acceleration. They've got to bring the spacecraft closer for better pictures, and that takes time.

>> No.7279008

In the extremely remote chance that there is an abandoned star base, Humanity would scramble to mount a manned expedition

how easy would it be to send humans to ceres?

>> No.7279010

If this turns out to be Ayyliums

What the fuck do we do

>> No.7279031
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>>7279010
prepare for pic related

>> No.7279034

>>7279010

it's not aliens

>> No.7279043

>>7279034
>it's extremely unlikely to be aliens

ftfy. They have not yet ruled out an artificial origin for the bright material.

>> No.7279047

>>7279034

>i know better than everyone

At the moment it could be Ayyliums

>> No.7279058
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A map of Ceres, made with the highest resolution images available to date.

>> No.7279060

>>7279043
>>7279047

No. Stop with that shit.

>> No.7279068

>>7279060

Why because you're too scared to accept the fact that it is statistically probable that other life on an intellectual level might exist in the universe

>> No.7279070
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>>7279060

I'll stop offering the possibility when the scientists rule it out.

>> No.7279073

>>7279068

No, because a splotch is not evidence of aliens.

>> No.7279076

>>7279073

>Splotch
>This a splotch

You're brain dead

>> No.7279078

>>7279073
>No, because a splotch is not evidence of aliens.

As you can see in >>7279058
It's a wee bit more than a splotch.

>> No.7279091
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7279091

Based on the 4k Ceres map, this one extraneous bright point seems to be a downrange component of a potential shallow angle impactor. On the other hand, our brains are good at finding patterns, even where none exist.

>> No.7279097

>>7279076
>>7279078

ok, two splotches

>> No.7279100

>>7279097

Explain what it is then

Tell me how something has a consistent level of light output while facing and not facing the sun

>> No.7279103

>>7279097
>ok, two splotches
Eight resolved, probably several more to come as the resolution improves, and the feature is unique to the rest of the world's geography. There's something interesting going on there, and without access to spectrographic data or images with a better resolution than 700 meters per pixel, it's impossible to say precisely what they are.

>> No.7279106

>>7279100

It doesn't have "light output," dummy. It's just more reflective than its surroundings. Everything we know about it is consistent with a patch of ice.

>> No.7279110

>>7274562
Cryovolcanoes or frozen lakes

>> No.7279111

>>7279106

>Everything we know about it is consistent with a patch of ice.

Nice meme post m8

>> No.7279112

>>7279103
>There's something interesting going on there,

Oh without a doubt it will be interesting, but you children won't think it is. It will be a cool insight about planetary geology, and you'll be throwing a tantrum because it isn't "aliens."

>> No.7279117

>>7279111

But that's true...

>> No.7279119

>>7279117

Aside from it not being

Continue on

>> No.7279124

>>7279119

What do you think rules out a patch of ice?

>> No.7279128

>>7279124
Not the guy you were asking, but my biggest problem with the "ice" theory is that Ceres shouldn't be past the snow line, which means any water ice sublimation from the spots should have been readily apparent by now.

>> No.7279136

So what would be the actual process / reaction when it genuinely was aliens

Like, ruins or some shit, nothing threatening.

Do we have a protocol to deal with shit like this? Will we have a race to be the first or will we actually cooperate to retrieve what ever is out there?

Yeah I kno how slim the chances are of this actually happening, but let's just speculate here.

>> No.7279138

>>7279128

On the contrary, that makes ice more likely. It would explain why it's only present in that one spot - because that's a recent event, and it isn't stable for long. btw, there IS evidence of water vapor.

>> No.7279144

>>7279136
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Office_for_Outer_Space_Affairs

Would probably involve these people and the representatives of first world gov'ts if it were to occur

>> No.7279147

>>7279136
The world would collectively shit it's pants in different ways.

Radical religious types would probably start a war or a skirmish of some sort, or see it as a sign of the existence of their god

/r/athiests would all start spewing "I TOLD YOU SO" and shit up everything with their smugposting and antics

Governments would be scrambling to claim their piece of the alien pie but I can see some cooperation between nations like the EU and USA, stuff like that.
Good, bad, who knows what would happen. But boy, would something happen.

>> No.7279148

>>7279128
>water ice sublimation from the spots should have been readily apparent by now.

and it is!

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v505/n7484/full/nature12918.html

>> No.7279162
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7279162

>>7279138
>http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v505/n7484/full/nature12918.html
>>7279148

Small hints, but I don't think it's been specifically localized to the bright spots as a vapor plume emitting feature. In fact, Piazzi is the region with the strongest H2O absorption spectrum on Ceres, and there's not a whole lot to see there.

>> No.7279167

>>7277876
/thread

>> No.7279203
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7279203

>>7274562

GUISE! GUISE! THEY RELEASED A NEW IMAGE!!
APPARENTLY IT'S ALIEN!!!!!!

OMG OMG OMG!!!!

>> No.7279226

>>7279203
I bet greys smoke some dank shizzle over there.

>> No.7279238

>>7279226
i'm glad someone noticed my joke
thank you anon!

>> No.7279252

>>7279238
it's basically a sign from aliens that they're having a Ceres underground 420 party.

>> No.7279680
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5x magnification, run through a deconvolution algorithm, but it's not quite reliable due to the lossy source.

>> No.7279756

>>7278210
Looks more like this to me: >>>/x/16166745

Greetings from /x/ sci.

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>>7279136

>> No.7279763

>>7279680
I can still see what appears to be upright structures. Thanks for putting the effort in, what do you make of it?

>> No.7279782

>>7279763
Not my effort, ultimately; credit goes to PDP8E at USF. I do think the bright material is elevated above the surrounding landscape, but I have no idea how much. I'm still leaning towards the spots coming from some sort of impactor, which blasted away the top of the peak at the center of the crater. From there, a heavier remainder of the impactor seems to have crashed into the far wall of the crater (accounting for the lack of material between the bright spots), possibly explaining the collapsed appearance of that side.

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7279791

>>7274562

ITS SPACE JEWS YA DUMMY

>> No.7279806

it's an intergalactic message that's been waiting for 100+ years

>rude to address the populated planets in any given solar system directly
>leave messages on the outer exoplanets as a formality

>> No.7279909

what kinds of instruments does dawn have to examine the spot? just cameras?

>> No.7279919

>>7279909

Spectrometer

>> No.7280012
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>>7279091
What are these slanted striations? Geological features, or optical/compression artifacts? They seem to surround the pole.

>> No.7280014

>>7280012
Damn it, mean to quote >>7279058.

>> No.7280025

>>7280012
>>7280014
I believe they're one part actual geological feature, one part artifact created by stretching the imaged globe.

>> No.7280190

>>7279782
>bright material is elevated above the surrounding landscape

that was my first thought looking at the pic

maybe running the same image processing algorithm on different images taken at different rotations would give a hint at the height

>> No.7280207
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>>7279782
Do we know anything that reflective that could possibly impact with Ceres? Venus has a high albedo but that's due to gases. Enceladus is extremely reflective but that's due to the orbit with Saturn. TNO like Eris seem too far away.
Main belt asteroids and comets have a rather low albedo.

>> No.7281973

OpNav9 is scheduled to take place today. This will be the last navigation session before Dawn enters its next mapping orbit.

http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html

>May 22, 2015 - Dawn has made good progress this week continuing to reshape its orbit around Ceres. Today the spacecraft's altitude reaches down to 3,100 miles (5,000 kilometers). Now, as earlier in the week, it will ascend slowly for a while, traveling up to 4,200 miles (6,700 kilometers) on May 24. Even as it climbs, Dawn will continue using its ion engine to maneuver to the next planned mapping orbit at 2,700 miles (4,400 kilometers).

>Later today the explorer will stop ion-thrusting to take pictures of Ceres for navigation. This is the second and final photo op between mapping orbits. Dawn will resume thrusting tomorrow.

>> No.7281974

>>7281973
My bad; I misread the dates. It looks like pictures were taken yesterday. Hopefully, we'll have new pictures to look at by this time next week.

>> No.7281984

diamonds are forever

>> No.7281988

AYYLUMINIUM

>> No.7282015

>>7281988
>AYYLUMINIUM

I'm starting to think the anons saying "ayliums" (and the like) actually think the bright spots are aliens, while trying to keep their heads low and avoid getting into an argument about whether or not the bright spots are artificial.

>> No.7282111
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>>7280207
Earth, Enceladus, the Moon, Comet 67/P. Ceres would be between the Moon and the comet.
>>7282015
It may be a desperate attempt to find something mildly interesting on an object looking as boring as the Moon. Pluto will soon attract all attention (for a while).

>> No.7282190

>>7275685

fugg :-------DDDDDDDDD

>> No.7282191

>>7275685
This is some cute shit.

>> No.7282198

>>7275685
>that fucking HUD
1000/10

>> No.7282442

>>7279091
Lack of rays makes me a skeptic of a low angle impact here. Look at Messier on the Moon, huge rays. This is very different.

>> No.7282463

>>7274562
What exactly is the chance that it is a frozen lake with bacteria underneath?

>> No.7282472

>>7282463
High enough that they don't want to risk contamination by crashing the probe.

>> No.7282501
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>>7274562
See these stones with the brighter impact points where the hammer hit them before they broke?

What if this is the same thing? It got hit by a very small meteor that grazed the outer surface of dust and left the crystal rocks exposed?

>> No.7282563

the big dot appears to be right in the center of it's crater

maybe it's just a gigantic piece of iron, silver or a similar element we already or still have to discover that simply crashed into the planet?

>> No.7283169
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>>7282501
There are numerous impacts that resemble this image. The albedo of the bright spots has a dramatic excess relative to all other apparent impact features. See >>7279058

>> No.7283210

>>7277819
I thought it was still bright on night side.

How can it reflect when there is no light source.

>> No.7283217

>>7283210
>I thought it was still bright on night side.

It's not.

>> No.7283223

>>7278575
I agree.

Seems to be the most plausible scenario so far.

The Xergum Empire is known to be active in this quadrant.

>> No.7283226

I love how faggots in this thread are so scared that it might be some sort of life that created this artificial light on the surface that they are trying to stop everyone from saying AYYYYYY LMAO

It's hilarious.

>> No.7283325

>>7283226
>I love how faggots in this thread are so scared that it might be some sort of life that created this artificial light on the surface that they are trying to stop everyone from saying AYYYYYY LMAO
>It's hilarious.

I think you're misreading the statements. "AYY LMAO" comes across as a defensive approach to voicing their actual hopes or opinions of an Alien explanation.

>> No.7283498

Thread related: >>7281488

>> No.7283574

>>7282563
And created the crater? No way.

The forces involved would very certainly destroy the impactor. When we talk about imapcts like this, it is very, very different from, say, throwing a stone into a sandbox.

The speeds involved are enormous, multiple km/s. The craters are not formed by displacment, better analogies are found in nuclear bomb explosions. The impactor detoneated, melted and exploeded by multiple shockwaves shooting through it and the sorrounding ground.

What remains of it, is buried as tiny, fused fragments, scattered over a huge area.

>> No.7284116

>>7282501

What if ur an idiot?

>> No.7284139

If I was an ayyleum, I think the bicycle would be a very interesting invention. Pretty easy to take for granted from a human perspective, but really specific and elegant engineering.

>> No.7284327
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This depression on Ceres is rather unusual compared to the impact craters.

>> No.7284331
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7284331

>>7284327

Re-sampled and cropped version of the flyby image.

>> No.7284340

>>7284331
Could it be a caldera?

>> No.7284341

>>7284340
Could be. It definitely looks like something more interesting than an impact crater, that's for sure.

>> No.7284344
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7284344

Ancient rock art found on Ceres.

>> No.7284589

>>7283223
But rumor has it the xergumian empire has long abandoned phase torpedo technology for far superior weaponry?!

>> No.7284660

>>7279756
>/x/

I'll be honest, I've been to /x/ a few times and I have never seen such stupidity in one place. One might be tempted to claim /b/ is worse, but I sincerely disagree.

>> No.7284795

Is it a mass relay or a jump gate?
>rolling for b5 universe, not killer machines

>> No.7284824

>>7277840

I'm sure it'd be an international effort with a multinational team.

>> No.7285119

>>7274562
It is going to be ice.

>> No.7285152

>>7285119
>The Cererian surface is relatively warm. The maximum temperature with the Sun overhead was estimated from measurements to be 235 K (about −38 °C, −36 °F) on 5 May 1991.[13] Ice is unstable at this temperature. Material left behind by the sublimation of surface ice could explain the dark surface of Ceres compared to the icy moons of the outer Solar System.

>> No.7285173

>>7274562
>>7274562
It's going to be a secret sheckle stash

>> No.7285535

>>7284331
It's an open pit mine

>> No.7285554

>>7285152

That makes ice more likely, not less. If ice can't last long on the surface, that would explain why it only shows up in that one spot, at a recent eruption.

>> No.7285564

>>7274562
They can already determine what the spots are made of but not releasing the information. The probe has an IR and Visible light spectrometer. Basucly it subtracts the suns chemical signature from the light reflected off of the spots, boom, composition. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/dawn/spacecraft/instruments.html

>> No.7285572

>>7285554
Normally you'd expect ice to be on higher latitudes where the sun is weaker. Even Mercury apparently managed to keep ice in shadowy craters.

>> No.7285585

>>7285564
That's one of the problems with international probes. NASA tends to be relatively open but the European contributors like to keep a tighter grip on the data their instruments obtain so they can publish them first.

>> No.7285589

>>7285572
>Normally you'd expect ice to be on higher latitudes where the sun is weaker.

The hypothesis is that it's a cryovolcano, not just a random patch of ice.

>> No.7285633

Flat ferroid surface

>> No.7285641

>>7285633

or ice

>> No.7285679

>>7275685
10/10 beautiful

>> No.7285714

>>7285564
>>7285585
Additionally, resolution remains low, the scientists that I have talked to were hesiant to make confident statements about what was there just because they cannot resolve the spots well enough at this time.

>> No.7285752

>>7275685
>Kerbal HUD

Made my day!

>> No.7286073

>>7279034
says the alien. we're on to you.

>> No.7286996
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7286996

The Genesis Rock, a sample of anorthosite recovered from the Moon during the Apollo 15 mission, is a rather bright plagioclase feldspar rock, believed to be prevalent in meteorites. It's possible that the Ceres bright spots came from an abundance of calcium and or titanium rich feldspars.

>> No.7287003

Here is the message from our alien time travelers:

EXPLORATION OF HUMANITY 666 8100
52.0942532N 13.131269W (Hy Brasil)
CONTINUOUS FOR PLANETARY ADVAN???
FOURTH COODINATE CONTINUOT UQS CbPR BEFORE
16.763177N 89.117768W (Caracol, Belize)
34.800272N 111.843567W (Sedona, Arizona)
29.977836N 31.131649E (Great Pyramid in Giza, Egypt)
14.701505S 75.167043W (Nazca Lines in Peru)
36.256845N 117.100632E (Tai Shan Qu, China)
37.110195N 25.372281E (Portara at Temple of Apollo in Naxos, Greece)
EYES OF YOUR EYES
ORIGIN 52.0942532N 13.131269W (Hy Brasil)
ORIGIN YEAR 8100

>> No.7287016

>>7286996
So... it's from rocks the aliums put there?

>> No.7287018

>>7287003
Protip: binary message from 1980 decoded in 2010
Interpretation is they are from the future year 8100 and coordinates are from where ancient aliens seeded our planet with alien DNA.

Personally, that's bullshit.

>> No.7287053

>>7286996
Rocks made out of allium bones?

>> No.7287103

>>7286996
aliuminati faked the moon landing?

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>>7287103
>>7287053
>>7287016
>>7287003
>>7286073
>>7284344
>>7284139

>Try to post interesting content
>End up with a honeypot for shitposting

Why do I even bother?

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>>7287120

kek

>> No.7287145

>>7287120
Think of it as free bumps if you don't like shitpost jokes

>> No.7287358

>>7284331
Neat how the light reflects off of it making it seems like it has a triangle hovering above it.

>> No.7287380

>>7287003
>no ayy lmao

do you unironically expect me to believe it?

>> No.7287385

>>7287125

voting this post for new board banner

>> No.7287416

>>7277819

It's emitting light, not reflecting light. Do you see any shadows around the bright spots?

>> No.7287587

>>7287380
They clearly didnt have time to study human culture fully,

Damn man, it already incredible they figured out ascii and our coordinate system.

>> No.7288548
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7288548

The bright spots still show up prominently in this image of Ceres' north pole, captured on May 1st.

>> No.7288808

>>7287103
USA FAKED '69 LANDING AND WENT TO CERES INSTEAD AS A LATENT "FUCK YOU"

>> No.7288826

>>7288808
We're actually just now seeing the reflectors that they supposedly put on the moon.

>> No.7289590

>>7286996
Is that the number of Steins;Gate above it? Time traveling humans fucking with us confirmed.

>> No.7289632
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7289632

It's where north korea stored up all their lighting

I shall call it pyongyang-2 and pyongyang-3

>> No.7289645

>>7287416
>It's emitting light

No it's not. Don't just make stuff up.

>> No.7289689

>>7287380
it was from 1980
Richard Dawkins was still a babby
ayy lmao

>> No.7289701

>>7275198
left looks like yotsuba head

>> No.7289709

>>7274562
Would it be a huge deal if ceres was a huge icecap?

>> No.7289711

>>7289709
*would it be a big deal if the spot was an icecap?*

>> No.7289854

>>7279058
Why can't it just be an impact and the dust particles are reflecting light?

>> No.7291245

Ceres is an iceball, the white spots are places where impactors have recently disturbed the surface layer of dust.

>> No.7291279

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvacG_nhD34

>> No.7291894
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7291894

a low-angle view

>> No.7292895
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7292895

They got a closeup, but not of that spot afaik

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=4605

>> No.7292908

>>7292895
nice resolution. hope they will get some similar pics from the bright spots soon, too.

>> No.7292922

>>7292895
I'm still baffled by those scratch-like formations. How did they form?

>> No.7292931

>>7274562
What if Ceres crashed to Earth? What would happened?

>> No.7293005

>>7292931
There would be no survivors.

>> No.7293048

>>7292895
>Can take closeup pictures
>Doesn't bother taking one of what everybody is interested in
Cover up.

>> No.7293064

>>7293048
What is the real reason for this? I thought that spot was fairly interesting to them as it is to us. I don't know how exactly their cameras work though and whether they even had that much control over where it was pointed.

>> No.7293072
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>>7293064
CIA came and had a word with them, that's what happened.

>> No.7293185

>>7292931
Depends on its velocity.

>> No.7293257

>>7293064
>>7293048
My guess is that they knew they were going to get close-ups of the white spot later in the mission, so they got an image of a different interesting area.

What good is a series of images of varying quality of the same spot?

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Here's a less compressed version of the OpNav9 image (resolution of 480 meters per pixel).

>> No.7293269

>>7293048
>>7293064
>>7293257

The mission cameras were privately funded by Max Planck. They want to keep the interesting data to themselves for six months so they get first crack at writing scientific papers.

>> No.7293396

>>7293005
>>7292931
We need to do something about that then right? Maybe blow it up while its still in the asteroid belt? Or at least nudge it on a course that takes it into Jupiter or some shit, like what? We just leave dangerous asteroids capable of leveling the planet out there, to roam around wildly?

Please say its not on a collision course with the Earth already... that isn't why we're scoping it out r-right

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>>7274562
>June 2015
>Dr Israel Weiss discovers that the emdrive actually produces a warp field
>April 2019
>create a warp shuttle to get to Ceres
>it's an alium ship
>the insides are empty
>only a message left behind, probably made by a creature with 6 arms and 4 string-like fingers each hand
>December 2024
>scientists finally decrypt the message
>it's a basic explaination on how to travel space using the emdrive
>mfw

>> No.7293430

>>7274571
I wish you would get banned.

>> No.7293464

>>7293430
dude its not just one crazy alien conspiracy man in here, there is a WIDE belief that aliens exist and that the spots on Ceres are of extraterrastrial origin

As in, NOT OF THIS EARTH!!

>> No.7293561

>>7293396
Autism: the post

>> No.7293742

>>7293048
They take closeups of stuff they fly over. The framing camera isn't made for long range photography.

>> No.7293758

>>7293428
lol

>> No.7293765

Just wanna put this out there. The thing that interested me most about those spots are how they remain shiny throughout all the angles, typically you would expect something to be really shiny at the right angle to the sun and camera, and then dim outside of that.

Did anyone think of it the same way as me? That's the main reason I've been following news about this.

>> No.7293769

>>7292922
This, and particularly to the right of the bright spots you see some kind of trails.

>> No.7293770
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it's the only way to be sure

>> No.7293797

>>7279806
>space etiquette
I like your theory, friend

>> No.7293825

>>7293770
'Murica!

>> No.7293892
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7293892

>>7293765
Seems like a fair point to me. Another thing that I've yet to see explained is how NASA can do so much with spectroscopy that they learned that our Sun has related stars in other galaxies: Consistently accomplished technical feats with various probes. Captured incredible images with the HST of nearby planets, moons and distant galaxies.

Yet when it comes to Dawn, they sent out this probe that costs $446 million but there's all this stalling and suspect actions around the quality of images they share with us.

We can turn to independent sources and image enhancements but for some reason, I get the feeling that doing so is going to be denounced as invalid for some contrived reasoning.

>>7293265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBEbPco9OzI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mlwcU5nI_4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaN_zyzzeiQ

>> No.7293893
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I find it hilarious that a little shiny spec on a grey planet thread has lasted 3 days, yet my glorious UFO thread didn't make the hour.

>> No.7293894

>>7293464
>aliens exist
Sure, almost definitely.
>the spots on Ceres are of extraterrestrial origin
If you mean put there by non-Earth life, then no, almost definitely not.

>> No.7293897

>>7293894
>I am an authority on what I don't know anything about

>> No.7293900

>>7293897
>The most likely explanation of a bright spot on an asteroid is that it was put there by interstellar aliens

You don't truly think that, do you?

>> No.7293906

>>7293900
no, but I believe in UFOs and given how fantastical their nature, I believe aliens are visiting us.

>> No.7293909

>>7293906
Is this belief based on concrete evidence? The universe is so massively huge, and life spontaneously arose on Earth, so there is almost certainly Intelligent life out there in the universe somewhere. But visiting us? That's a big leap that I wouldn't make without some sort of real evidence.

>> No.7293911

>>7293909
Yes. It's based on a lot.

>> No.7293912

>>7293906
The sheer size of the universe alone makes visiting aliens extremely unlikely, to the point of fantasy.

>> No.7293915

>>7292922
Same as Phobos . . .

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=russian+phobos+incident+

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>>7293911
Such as?

>> No.7293926

>>7293912
Are you retarded?
This is the thing. To anyone who has done the research would not make such stupid claims.

The Drake Equation has gone viral. The Fermi Paradox is common knowledge. It is taught in schools. That is why it is now no longer tin foil to suggest aliens exist.

What people don't realize is that the Milky Way is 100k light years across. Traveling at half the speed of light it would take 200k years to travel the diameter. The universe is 14 billion years old. If a space faring civilization arose just 200k years before us, they could already be here. 200k years goes into 14 billion 70,000 times. The small magelannic cloud is approximately twice the distance at 179k light years, so make it 400k years to reach us. We are trying to colonize Mars now with our primitive technology. Given the population and technology, we would also be trying to explore the galaxy and colonize Earthlike planets. That's what aliens would also do. Fact is, there are some 800 Earth like planets that we have identified so far in our own galaxy.

This doesn't even begin to discuss why national heros such as Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, Edgar Mitchell, people who have walked on the moon, say that UFOs are real and there is a coverup.

>> No.7293928

>>7293926
What if we're the first intelligent, space-faring life to arise in the Milky Way? It's not very easy to crunch the numbers on the likelihood of intelligent, exploring life existing anywhere near us. The universe is indeed very old, but what form of life would/could undertake a journey of so many millennial?

The most likely encounter, in my eyes, is with some sort of alien Von Neumann probe.

>> No.7293929

>>7293926
They wouldn't have to travel at 0.5 c. They could travel at ~99.999... c and time travel to us. Bringing their superior 100 000 year old technology to us.

>> No.7293931

>>7293929
Fuck, I always mess that up, I mean 99.999...% of C

>> No.7293937

>>7293926
>national heros such as Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, Edgar Mitchell, people who have walked on the moon, say that UFOs are real and there is a coverup.
sauce

>> No.7293961

>>7293926
Hey brother, why are you insulting that anon? We're just here to have a casual, friendly exchange of ideas. God Bless :)

>> No.7293966

>>7293926
Thanks for the numbers, but I already knew them.
Let's suppose for a moment that there are aliens. And that they took it upon themselves to travel for a 100.000 years. It would then be highly unlikely that they would only reveal themselves by way of crop circles and to drunken farmers form Montana.
>Unless it’s alien teenagers of course.