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>>7103624

Bump.

>>7103624
not gonna lie, it doesnt sound good. your symptoms sound serious and that text sounds ominous as fuck.

on the plus side, assuming you are young, in good health, and have insurance, your chances are pretty good, it sounds like it hasn't gotten bad enough to cause strokes or anything which means it is likely still benign and treatable.

this is probably not the best place to ask though, it is really for math/physics questions not health. like im a math grad student and most of my medical knowledge comes from watching House, i really have no clue wtf i am talking about.

>>7103624

a doctor won't discuss anything on the phone. it might just be high blood pressure. a treatment of daily yoga might suffice. could be a tumor. you'll know exactly what it is when you fucking go there you cunt. but I wouldn't worry about it.

>>7103644

Bloodpressure has been checked, obviously if that was the case the doc wouldn't have sent me to do MRI

>>7103636

>this is probably not the best place to ask though, it is really for math/physics questions not health. like im a math grad student and most of my medical knowledge comes from watching House, i really have no clue wtf i am talking about.

I know, thanks for the reply anyway, I'm just hoping there are some med students here aswell

>>7103624
Are you early 20s or late teens?

> every evening for a long time
how long?
Years? Months? weeks?
Longer duration excludes the fastest growing ones.


>Can it be brain tumor?
Yes, "tumor" however is pretty all inclusive of everything from benign slow-growing tumors to brain eating hypercancer or bacterial abcesses.
>Am I going to die?
Maybe yes maybe no. Assuming tumor it depends entirely on tumor type and tumor location, a vast range of them are treatable in a curative manner.

What was the first symptoms you had of this? Also how's your visual field(are any parts of it missing(look straight forward and move a finger around and see if any parts of it are lacking))

>>7103674

I'm 21. I've been having these symptoms since December, 14

My first symptoms were: dizziness and double vision (sometimes it goes away sometimes it's back)

I tried to move my finger around but I could see it all the way

Thanks for the helpful response, what do you think it can be?

>>7103683
>what do you think it can be?
Some form of brain tumor.
The double/blurred vision is from increasing intracranial pressure which pushes on the inside of the eyes. It's often the first sign.

Is the numbness of the back and arm on the same side and it's on the upper arm and upper back?
Any problem with muscle weakness or movement of the same parts?

Any other symptoms?

>>7103683
>Thanks for the helpful response, what do you think it can be?
Dude, go see a real doctor instead of listening to trolls here who will just scare the shit out of you for giggles.

>>7103703

Aww sh... My both arms all the way and my upper back. Muscle weakness aswell, I only have movement problems when they are numb.

I also feel slight pain but I can't tell exactly where, it's wierd I have attached a picture of those areas. On my temples I only feel it on the left side and it also feels a very slightly swollen when I touch it. It feels like the pain comes from the vein there.

If it's a brain tumor, is there a chance for survival or I'm 100% gone?

>>7103707

Man, I'm already scared shitless. It doesn't matter, I will know the results on Wednesday but not knowing what's going on is driving me crazy

>>7103716
>If it's a brain tumor, is there a chance for survival or I'm 100% gone?
Depends on type and location entirely. Some are routine curative surgery with no complications, others are inoperable and and can only be treated palliatively.

> My both arms all the way and my upper back. Muscle weakness aswell
It's less focal than it sounded like initially so maybe too early to say it's a tumor though. Could be some other neurological or muscular disorder.

Is the weakness/numbness symmetrical? Did it all appear at once? How's temperature/pain sense in affected areas?

>>7103624
It could be literally anything.
Also, unless you're just trolling, you really should do a full blood test including tests for your thyroid, possible anemia, diabetes, etc.
Nobody prescribes a heard MRI out of the blue.

>>7103749

>Is the weakness/numbness symmetrical?

Sometimes it is, sometimes it's just one of them. No difference in pain / temp sense in the areas. I'm not quite healthy I also have low vitamin D levels so it's hard to tell what symptoms might be related or not, I'm trying my best

>>7103761

4 types of bloodtest have been done already: 1 for liver, 1 kidney, 1 for syphilis and 1 for leukemia, all they found out was that my vitamin D levels are way lower than they should be.

>>7103761

Also sorry, my original post is confusing: they already did the MRI and then I recieved the text that I need to make an appointment ASAP.

>>7103624
>Today I've got a text saying: "Ask for an appointment as soon as possible to discucc your results"
fuck :(

>>7103773
I'm taking a neurology course right now. once you find out more on Wed, make a thread or bump this one if it's still alive. I'll dig out info for you once you know the initial diagnosis.

don't worry, neurosurgery, if you need it, is excellent these days and people recover from most of the things.

>>7103844

That would be great! What timezone are you in?

>>7103762
If you take a hot bath, does anything change? Also if you bend your head forward you don't feel anything strange?

I want to get a cheap mri so I can create a life-sized 3D model of my own skull &/or brain.

>>7103856
Nevermind stacking hot money on him, what's wrong with his butt?

>>7103852

Yes, if I bend my head forward I get really dizzy

>>7103862
Probably has diminished glutes.

>>7103848
EST

It sounds like you might have a tumor. The headaches might be due to elevated intracranial pressure, and the visual+numbness symptoms might be related to the location of the tumor. If I had to guess, I would say it's probably somewhere beneath your postcentral gyrus (near the middle of your brain, on the opposite side of the numb arm). Tiredness may just be an immune response, or may be a sign of something more serious. The other possibility is that the tumor is somewhere in your brainstem; most likely thalamic or sub-thalamic, and that the numbness is caused by it exerting pressure on spinal nerves. If the latter is the case, you're in for a bumpy road ahead, because brainstem tumors are notoriously dangerous, not to mention difficult and expensive to remove. However, if the tumor is just in your postcentral gyrus or somewhere just beneath, I wouldn't worry too much. Everyone can afford to lose a little white and gray matter off the top.

>>7103894

I'm gonna make a new thread on Wednesday or Thursday, I'm going to ask for the pictures of the scan. I'd be really thankful for your help

>>7103912

Well... shit. I'm going to find a drugdealer and just bucketlist it.

Young adult with vision disturbances, dizziness, muscle weakness and numbness and relatively quick onset of symptoms.

Lets just say you should be prepared to hear some news that are bad or worse. Sorry OP but I don't want to give you false hopes and have the doc crush them for you.

>>7103921

That's what I'm guessing. They told me it will take 5 working days to hear from them but I recieved the text next morning. But wouldn't they call me instead of a text if it's a tumor?

>>7103948
>But wouldn't they call me instead of a text if it's a tumor?
They wouldn't give out any information about it on the phone anyway.

>>7103624
Honestly doesn't sound promising. Could be a tumor; a student of mine had a spinal tumor that affected his movement and made him numb, so it could be that you have a growth that is impinging on the optic areas of the brain and/or nerves that innervate the upper body. Some areas of the back of the head process optic info, so it could be there, while something on the optic nerve itself, like a glioma, might be the reason for a single-sided pain. Some of the symptoms also imply a degenerative disease, like MS (though I'm not sure that the headaches fit that exactly). The brain is weird and complex, though, so these are simple guesses. The doc didn't tell you what he was scanning for with the MRI? I had one done a year back and was told outright that it was being done to look for MS, which, blissfully, I did not have. Very odd that they didn't mention what they think they're looking for/suspect.
Any way, good luck, anon. I hope it's nothing; if it is a tumor, I hope it's operable and benign. Let us know how it goes.

bump... you still around OP? how you doing?

>>7105697
Bump also interested

>>7103624

Intuitively I'd suggest keep getting MRIs in case they see anything, but try this alternative therapy: Run 15-20 minutes 5 times a week and drink plenty of water, make getting good sleep a priority, and consult books to develop a strength training regimen starting with basic stuff like pushups to exhaustion.

Really, regular dilation of blood vessels, regulation of systemic endogenous hormones, routine massage of lymphatic tissues, is far better therapeautically than any drug or drugs for non-specific or ambiguous symptoms in the absence of clear clinical indications (like a real fat tumor in an MRI image).

Bottom line is that you can only improve your symptoms, and if you die anyway, at least you did the best you possibly could.

Good luck OP.

>'Cause in this life
>Things are much harder than in the after world
>In this life
>You're on your own

>>7103624
>How fucked am I?
As if /sci/ is going to know. You are one of those people who use WebMD aren't you?

might be the right time to start writing letters to loved ones and get your estate in order because your legacy is important. Everyone dies eventually so we will see you on the other side newfriend.

The first thing people think of is a tumour, but realistically it could be anything OP. Could be MS. Could be a random infection.

I hope you come back and let us know.

>>7103624
Meningitis OP?
Just a suggestion, but have you been feeling confused lately?

>>7107517
Stop posting

Bump

>>7103624
2nd year med student here, I'll try to help.
First if it's a brain tumor, based on the symptoms you're describing it would be in it's very early stages. You'd be seizing, barely able to walk straight, having difficulty with speach and a number of more serious symptoms if you were in even stage 2. Also fatigue and dizziness could be attributed to thousands of factors. Another thing is with a malignant or benign brain tumor is that the symptoms are going to be drastically different depending on where on the brain it's located.
For example if you were having strictly severe visual problems and headaches the tumor would very likely be on your occipital lobe. Because that's where the brain processes visual information. But you're also talking about your arms and back feeling numb which would likely be a problem with your thoracic nerves, or possibly your sensory cortex but that's unlikely. So the link between the vision problems and your numbness likely isn't a tumor, unless it's massive which in that case you'd have much worse symptoms/
It honestly just sounds like you have migraines/tension headaches or elevated intracranial pressure. I doubt it's meningitis unless you had an extreme fever.

>>7107553
>continued thoughts
Honestly OP, you're probably just freaking out over nothing. Head aches are the second most common type of pain after back pain. Dizziness is also incredibly common and almost always is a problem in the inner ear or low blood pressure not anything to do with the brain

>>7107553
5th year med student here.

> it would be in it's very early stages
No, early stages are generally asymptomatic.

> if you were in even stage 2
There's a million classification scales to use, stage 2 is ambigous.

>For example if you were having strictly severe visual problems and headaches the tumor would very likely be on your occipital lobe.
No.
Reason 1: Mass effect; brain tumors occupy space, this causes compressive effects which affect vision(by pressing the optic nerve into the eyeballs among others).
Reason 2: the eyes are not wireless, any compression in/near the eye or along the way to the occipital lobe will also give symptoms. For example, pituitary tumors may compress the optic chiasm and give a characteristic loss of visual field.

> So the link between the vision problems and your numbness likely isn't a tumor
It should be a suspicion if you can't find any other apparent cause for the symptoms. There's of course a dozen other neurological disorders that partially could match this but if you suspect brain tumors you don't schedule the patient for a 3 month long sequence of neurological investigations during which the tumor becomes inoperable.

>>7107175
The first thing I thought of was the lack of a comma before "OP".

OP was supposed to have his appointment today, I wonder if we'll hear the news

Bump for OP!
Is he still alive?

Still no OP? I'm guessing he got some bad news ;_;

>>7108680
Well he said eithier Wednesday or Thursday

From this MRI it looks like there's an excess amount of fluid towards the top/back side of the brain. That can often be attributed with some disorders, the fighting off of infections, a recent hit to the head, often jarring of the head, or even inflammation from the presence or early development of a cyst or tumor.
I know OP went to the doctor's today, so I wish him luck, this is just my semi-shitty input.

>its not a tumor

>>7108812
>From this MRI
that's not his MRI you stupid idiot. just goes to show how silly your "diagnosis" is.

>>7108842
I shouldn't have spoken. I pursued neoropathology and neurochemistry instead of the medical side. I'll see myself out.

>pic is me
>why do I shit post

If it makes you feel better, I had two minor strokes when I was 24 that didn't affect me at all...apparently. It's still disconcerting because no one knows why they happened but that's another story. The brain is very resilient and adaptable and any care you get for your brain these days will be great.

Good luck, let us know what happens.

OP, are you there?

Bumpin for OP to return

>>7103624
5th medfag also here
OP... i'm not going to lie to you...
your are just dumb and overreacting...

bump for OP! you still alive dude?

>>7103624
Are you fat ass or no?

No reply in 2 days.

OP is KILL.

RIP OP!

>>7103624
Hopefully it's not a brain abscess, that shit is fucking terrifying

>>7110182
tbh, if he actually found out he has brain cancer the last thing he is probably going to do is go post about it on an anonymous imageboard where he asked for advice

>>7110301
But the fact that he posted her in the first place suggest he might have nobody else to talk to about it

>>7111052
agreed. he'd come here to let us know wtf is going on.
hope he comes in tomorrow...

>>7111270
when were you when op was kill?

They probably hospitalized him right away and made a bilateral hemispherectomy.

OP,come back to this Kazakh guttural singing board, we need an update

OP we will not let this thread die

>>7112017
I was sitting at home drinking brain fluid when Fred ring.
>OP is die
>No

It's a pity you won't live

But then again who does?

OP had botched emergency surgery, he's kill

>>7112862
It is strange to think that the original poster of this thread might actually be dead from a failed emergency surgery

It's not outside the realm of possibility

>>7112875
Absolutely. It doesn't even have to be a botched surgery. Surgery itself might have been successful but the patient is either still in the hospital or he died due to complications afterward.

But yeah, I think there's a pretty good chance that as soon as OP's doc told him what's up, he went to emergency and went into surgery.

I think OP is dead, but lets just keep bumping this, theres no way he wouldnt check back

>>7113228
Can you get on 4chan in a hospital?

Maybe he doesn't have a smart phone and can't get in here through their wifi

Maybe he's dead

Maybe he's a troll

Watch OP come back a week later and this shit is still up and hes gonna shit his pants that we keep bumping this

>>7113240
>Can you get on 4chan in a hospital?
In most that I've been to, they don't have WiFi and even cellular is banned due to interference with medical equipment. Maybe OP has an iPad or something but I don't see how he'll find Wifi/3G/4G in hospital.

>>7113275
I don't think OP was kidding. He was clearly scared shitless (as he should have been). He definitely has something dangerous in his brain that's putting pressure on certain areas.

>>7113275
He's going to shit his pants because he can no longer control his bowel movements

Hi /sci/

I'm OP, sorry my mom came to visit me and we went to the doc together just in case it's something terrible, we spent the last few days together so I didn't have much time to check back and I thought that the thread died out anyway.

I have to say it feels so fucking good that you guys have bumped this thread, this is my favorite board ever and now this is my favorite board ever x100!

The good news is: it's very likely that it isn't anything deadly (atleast that's what the doc said)

The bad news is: they found something in the middle of my brain but they can't tell exactly what it is so they need to do another MRI with more detail of that area. Sorry for letting you guys down, but that's all they told me so far.

I also wanted to get the pics from MRI to post here but unfortunately they refused to send me.

Thank you guys again for bumping this thread, you are awesome

Even if they find something shitty in the end atleast I'll die with my faith in mankind restored

>>7113593
I-i dont believe you man. Dont joke with us

I was right! Definitely was thinking a brainstem process.

lets talk zebras, you got a chordoma (clivus tumor) OP.

>>7113593

>>7113593
hope it's nothing bad

>>7113593
I really hope this is OP!

Hey OP, keep us updated how things go. Now I'm wondering that that mass is in the middle of the brain.

I also find it curios why they didn't order a non-contrasting CT scan right away and then did MRI later on. Are you in US/Can? I don't think you are just based on that...