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7072481 No.7072481 [Reply] [Original]

Are winters getting worse?

We've had a several fairly significant winters in the last 10 year or so with this one being one of the coldest and snowiest in the USA in a long while.

I've read everything from sunspots to global warming making the weather more volatile to ayy lmaos.

What's the truth /sci/? Are we still baking the Earth or did the sun say that's enough energy for now or is this all a statically insignificant ~10 year anomaly?

>> No.7072484

climate change bruh
its out of our control

>> No.7072505

>>7072484
Climate change from what?

>> No.7073331

>>7072505
you being a fag

>> No.7073343

>>7072505
less heat

>> No.7073344

I wish we had weather like that where I live.

>> No.7073347

>>7072481
>I've read everything
no, you haven't

>> No.7073371

Magnetics and polar shifts.

>> No.7073376

I believe the system is stalling from all the warming and like an engine that burns out. Who knows, global warming may really bring an ice age.

>> No.7073404

>>7073331
>>7073343
>>7073371
>>7073376
This

>> No.7073419

i don't know about you but here in west coast canada it's been shit

for the first time in my life we had a totally snowless year in town, and my local ski mountain is already closed due to getting completely shit on with rain.

>> No.7073702

>>7073419
>west coast canada
>we had a totally snowless year in town
hardly surprising

>> No.7073730

>strong el nino year
>already fucked up air streams
>lmao you're dead, east coast
seems straightforward to me

>> No.7073740
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>>7072481
>We've had a several fairly significant winters in the last 10 year or so with this one being one of the coldest and snowiest in the USA in a long while.

Here in Virginia, the last two winters are only unusually "cold and snowy" in comparison to the last twenty years.
This is what winter was like every year in my youth (late 60's through the 70's).
Hell, the Chesapeake Bay froze over in the mid 70's.
Even the 80's were far more "wintery" than the 90's and 21st century so far.

>> No.7073769

>>7072481
People think the weather is worse now because they spend most of their time in their house on a computer instead of caring to notice what the weather is like.

>> No.7073782

>glaciers melting

Where did you think all that water was going to go?

>> No.7073790

Person 1: "it's been really cold lately, must be that global warming...lol"
Person 2: "no idiot, this cooling is precisely an effect of global warming err CLIMATE CHANGE, because...uhmumblemumblescience...just stop using nice things and buy our green technology and carbon credits thnx"

>> No.7073812

I remember the yearly snows of my early childhood, happy times.
And then sometimes it didn't snowed.
And now it doesn't snow anymore.
Water doesn't even freeze anymore.

And in the summer, the mosquitoes... There was not that much mosquitoes.
Little mosquitoes from indonesia too, the local big ones are very scarce, last year only saw two the whole year.

I guess i'll have to pack up and go north and high, away from this tropical hell.

>> No.7073823

>>7072481
Will it continue like this?

Snow all the time is great, and if it's colder overall that means the summers will be less shitty.

>> No.7073825

>>7072481
>global warming
>it's actually getting colder
science pls

Joking aside, I live in the southern hemisphere and this summer has been pretty fucking hot. I'm not sure it has been the highest temperature ever, but in average it has to the one of the top ones.

>> No.7073844

>>7073782
The ocean?

>> No.7073888

>>7073730
>strong el nino
We didn't have an el nino

>> No.7073896

>>7073376
You're actually retarded

>> No.7073899

You are wrong. There is no snow, and there never will be again on this hellish warming globe.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html

>> No.7073904

in west Europe, winters have been extraordinarily warm and mild for the past couple of years.
I envy your weather, USA

>> No.7073908

>>7073376
this could actually happen, holy shit...

>> No.7073974

>>7073908
it probably wouldn't happen in our lifetimes, given the size of the earth's engine it would take thousands of years for it to burn out from a relatively small temperature increase

>> No.7074009

there have been abnormally high SST in the Pacific for the past few months.

It's creating persistent a high pressure ridge off the west coast, that is causing this trough to sit over the eastern US.

>> No.7074541
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7074541

>winters getting worse?

>> No.7074786

>>7074541
That's snow covered AREA. What about anomalous depth - places that normally get snow getting much more snow?

>> No.7074821

>>7074541
This is great propaganda

>> No.7074827

>>7072481
>Are winters getting worse?
>Here is some bullshit anecdotal evidence based on weather reports I happened to see on TV
Read up the basics first

>> No.7074829

>>7074541
>snow covered is the only metric for winter

climate change deniers are the biggest fucking retards

>> No.7075196

>>7074827
>OP asks a question
>respond with "answer it"

>> No.7075208

let us first remember, for us to look at something scientifically, it has to be falsifiable, the current pop science model for global climate change/warming is not falsifiable. How about we instead focus on the plastics and man made debris littering the oceans, it is a real problem and very tactile.

>> No.7075568

>>7074541
>Snow cover (km2)
>not volume (km3)
faggot

>> No.7076197

>>7074541
>plot data against trendline fit of same data
>"look it hasn't changed at all!"

>> No.7076213
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7076213

>MUH
>NATURAL
>CYCLE

The funniest part is when people accuse those millionaire big bux climate change scientists of pushing an agenda to get those huge government grants.

Meanwhile big oil is the richest industry on the planet and stands to gain the most from climate change denial.

>> No.7076472

>>7076213
>have a few stats classes
>looking through the charts and data anon presents us with
I don't mean to get your knickers in a twist, old chap.
But you need to learn how to lie with statistics in order to scrutinize statistics. I'm not saying that these graphs have had their scales and periods manipulated, but there is at least a chance of it, graphs are largely meaningless, raw data is where its at.

>> No.7077287

>>7075208
>plastics and man made debris littering the oceans
Just the usual fluctuations, microplastic in water can't be linked to anthropocene, nothing to see here.

>> No.7077299

>>7072481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJCczZd7HVk

>> No.7077307
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7077307

>>7076472
>raw data is where its at
Yes. And it's readily available for anyone to see. The IPCC publishes full reports every few years at this point which cite an enormous body of studies and aggregate the results to create evaluate the likelihood of several most-likely pathways the environment might make it.

The only manipulation of the data I've ever seen is some climate change denier video that took sun spot data in a graph like that, showed that they correlated visually, and cut the data off right before the trends depart. Pic related. They cut it off right around 1985

>> No.7077309

Depends where you live, here in Serbia the snow is falling less and less and winters are getting warmer and warmer. F.e. 5-6 years ago, we had a regular winter with few weeks of snow, few weeks of -13~ average temperature, just a regular winter, with average temperatuer bellow zero but last year we literally had 3 days of snow and the entire winter wasnt cold at all, id assume that the average temperature was way above 0.

>> No.7077324

>>7072481
Possibly. But you're taking local climate trends and applying them to the world. Remember that most of the planet's surface is the ocean, and few people experience what happens in the south pacific, for example.

The metaphor some climate scientists use for climate change is a loaded die. The weight means you're more likely to hit warmer temperatures (4-6), but you can still hit colder temperatures (1-3) frequently without it being anomalous.

Moreover, regional effects of global warming are expected to vary tremendously, with weather patterns becoming more severe in some areas, so it is entirely possible that a result of climate change is more intense winters for the US for a while, but overall more of the earth's surfaces is getting hotter than getting colder, meaning the overall temperature is increasing.

>> No.7078080

>>7072481
Winter? What winter? It's spring where I live. And I live above the 45th parallel...

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>> No.7078126

I'm pro global warming. More people die from cold weather than hot weather. Keep polluting everyone.

>> No.7078129

>>7072481
last winter was terrible, this winter is doubly so. our weather is aweful. on average, for all time, we have a handful of days where our temperature dips below zero. we've been below zero at some point every single day for weeks now, with actual below zero temps reaching double digits. additionally, we're above our average for snow this year, and literally every other day we have another massive snowstorm. parts of my area are over their normal amount of snow by six feet or more, and checking the weather for today and tomorrow shows more record weather coming.

my girlfriends college will be having an actual temperature of -14 deg F tonight, with a wind chill 20 or more lower. im only 21, but i still have never experienced a winter so brutal, and its not close to over yet

>> No.7078140

>>7078116
>Hahaha
>lol'd

Jesus Christ. Why is /sci/ so Reddit?

>> No.7078148

>>7078140
that picture is from 2009 anon. its 2015 now. that picture is over half a decade old.