/sci/ - Science & Math

>>7065942

Life is not a configuration of matter. Life is a set of processes, in which things like your consciousness are suspended and maintained. When these processes have ceased, life is lost forever. All that you were has been scattered, and is no simpler to recover than reforming a star from the matter it scattered throughout the universe upon its death.

No reason to believe there should be a continuity of consciousness. It's a nice, inefficient way to make human clones though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information-theoretic_death

Is it possible to suspend the brain before it reaches this though? It's not like your brain instantly becomes a hunk of meat the moment your heart stops for example.

>>7065945
>I believe in a magic soul.

>>7065942
Not all that much research is being made on it but what little happens is pretty fancy. Preservation won't be taken seriously until we have computers good enough to simulate your legacy though.

>>7066158
>Is it possible to suspend the brain before it reaches this though? It's not like your brain instantly becomes a hunk of meat the moment your heart stops for example.
Normal formaldehyde preservation may be enough, but neurons can degenerate rather terribly before you properly dead and preservation can start. A few strokes and ten years with alzheimers will reduce your brain to a rather shitty state.

>>7065942
I'd be more interested in keeping a brain alive outside of a body, even if temporary.

Crossing my fingers for replacement bodies becoming a thing.

>>7067837

you'll get clonable organs a long time before that

realistically, by 2050 the average first worlder could easily live 150-200 years as long as he can keep getting his organs replaced as they fail; nobody knows if there's a hard limit on human life expectancy. The only real limit I can think of are things like brain cancer or Alzheimer’s

>>7067842
Oh, obviously the organs come first. They're part of the body as a whole after all. The day we can just grow entire replacement bodies will be simultaneously wonderful and horrible (provided we've managed to find the definitive method to repair spinal cord severs).

my goal is to start a company that do this shit so i can live forever

am i crazy or just a men who see the truth ?

>>7067878
You're Ray Kurzweil.

So maybe not either but just desperately afraid of dying.

what if we invent a computer where you can put your consciousness before you die. and this consciousness can speak and has all other senses
this means the consciousness in the computer is a copy of you, the copy will be happy that it is "immortal" in the computer while the original wont notice nothing, this means he will die, while the copy is immortal... isnt it a brainfuck ?! does it mean that the consciousness isnt real and unique ?

how will other people think about it

>>7066466
You're a fag m8.

>>7067852

There's been success with stem cells already

>>7067842
I'd rather die and live my life over and over due to quantum immorality.

>>7068187

Link:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/284152.php

>>7068189
>quantum immorality
Fucking pervert

>>7068120
What if we invent a bong that will keep our philosophy immortal

>>7068191
Well I'll be. All they need is to be able to repair clean cuts. The big issues now brain-wise is maintaining brain function during the transplant and keeping the brain in a low-function state during the repair proccess (sensory deprivation and all that)

>>7065945
I'm pretty sure it's been shown that our consciousnesses aren't constant while we're alive. We drop out and come back, but we're not aware of this.

>>7065942
>So /sci/, What's your opinion on preserving the brain after death so you might one day come back?
When I start working, the first thing I'll do is buy Alcor insurance. I plan to preserve my body & brain after I "die". I believe it's stupid not do so.

>>7068237
Brain in a jar bong. Fantastic.

cool

>>7067842
Dementia is not Alzheimers and it affects pretty much everyone to some degree. Our brains deteriorate with age, there's no known way to stop it. We might cheat nature to live 150± years by organ replacement and effective cancer treatment, but without solving the brain problem, we would be drooling idiots in capable bodies.

>>7068838
>drop out and come back
to be honest, i can hardly believe that i am the same person while feeling one emotion rather than another. i kind of wish i didn't feel anything at all.

>>7068846
i need one

>brain is preserved
>Igor drops the jar

>>7069238
kek

>>7069166
omega 3?

>>7067878
Some day you'll find out that you don't want to live forever.

>>7067878
You're not alone.

I secretly want to live forever even though I've been shown numerous times how wishing for immortality is a foolish thing to do. All of this is because I just want to witness the rest of human history. Dying would be like having to leave in the middle of a movie.

>>7072776
I'd rather leave in the middle of the movie than sit staring at a blank screen forever

>>7072902
when it gets to that point you obviously will die.

>>7067878
Immortality 2045 project bro