/sci/ - Science & Math

Not all of us had the fortune of being dropped on our heads as a child.

*she

I simply cannot study computer science because I am too intelligent. Descending to such a low level is impossible for me, because my mind has a built-in defence mechanism against neckbearded anti-intellectualism.

>>7054633
>I simply cannot study computer science because I am too euphoric. Descending to such a low level is impossible for me, because my fedora has a built-in defence mechanism against neckbearded anti-intellectualism.
ftfy

>>7054633
that's really cool anon

>>7054591
>paying money to study computer science in university
>not reading it on your own in ¼ of the time and far more depth and detail
>in the year of our lord Jesus Christ 11111011111

>>7054661
>i can learn what binary is from reading a book
>lel why would i need cs

There are people who need a university degree to learn how to use a computer?

codeacademy.com

There, enjoy the equivalent of a CS degree. :^)

>>7054698
>data structures
>algorithms
>computational models

>computer science

>>7054698
Yeah, no. You need to take advanced mathematics courses in CS. Calculus 1 is required at most schools.

>>7054707
>advanced mathematics
>Calculus 1

did you hit your head recently, by any chance?

>>7054725
She was being sarcastic.

>>7054704
You're right. The average CS major barely knows algorithms. Think of code academy as being a masters degree then.

>>7054671
>implying you can't easily learn the whole of CS from books
>implying palindromes aren't pretty

>>7054739
>implying you can't learn literally anything from a text book.

Are you stupid or something?

>>7054751
Key word was "<span class="math">easily[/spoiler]"

You can learn all of CS with a fraction of the effort it takes to read Rudin.

>>7054633
>>7054687
>>7054698

People who think programming and turning a computer on = computer science.
lel

>>7054791
People taking b8 seriously. Lel

all these comp sci majors getting BTFO

molecular biology master race

u mad I have all of this low hanging fruit to get ez pubs? lel

Math/physics majors just hate on CS majors because two years out of school, cs majors make a grad students' yearly stipend in two months :^)

>>7054831
>comparing a salary to a stipend
This is the intellect of a CS major.

>>7054791
Are you saying that's not true? Why are you talking about a field you never studied?

>>7054791
>people who think their cs theory courses weren't a complete joke

top kek

I'm sick of people in general conflating computer science with programming.
Read a formal language book for once.

>>7054591
I think it's fair to say that the average CS grad student can hold their own against the average Math/Physics grad student. Undergrads are a whole different story.

>>7054633
female fedora
femdora

>>7054837
>being unable to compare money to money

This is the intellect of an engineer.

>there are people in this thread that think they will get a job doing something other than mindless programming with their CS degree after they graduate

>>7055308
life sucks, no one gets a fun job after graduating. You're even lucky if you still like what you study in grad school. True story

>>7055330
No, that's mainly just for CS because of how overhyped it is.

They say bullshit like
>we're changing the world!
>we're shattering the status quo!
>we're redefining what it means to be human!

When in reality what they do is
>we let you share pictures of your cats and iced coffees!
>we dedicate our vast financial and technical resources to selling ads on the internet!
>we steal your personal information as our business model!

CS major is basically 4 years of time and tens of thousands of dollars to be a glorified code monkey.

If you actually want to do the science-y part you are better off in mathematics or electrical engineering.

Computer Engineering master race.

Healthy background in physics/math but still a decent amount of automata theory and software engineering practices.

mad?

>>7055372
I have no beef with computer engineers.

It's basically what all these CS retards should be doing instead of wasting so many resources on stupid shit like snapchat.

>>7055374
Sounds like envy. If you could get in on the ground floor of snapchat, dropbox, instagram, etc, you would too, even if it was only till a later funding round/IPO so you could cash out, fuck off and do more interesting things.

>mfw IT major
>mfw do 1/5th of the in class work of a Comp Sci major at my school
>mfw learn everything they do in my free time, build a few overpriced websites a month under my Consulting LLC which companies drool at for some reason
>mfw got a huge salary offer to drop out from a recently IPO'd Silicon Valley company, over thousands of CS seniors+grads who applied
>mfw smoke weed erryday

I'm laughing at all these butthurt CS majors. Why don't you study a real science?

>>7055411
Why don't you get a real job? And no, scrounging for your advisor's grant money doesn't count.

>>7055215
>Set and logic notation everywhere
>Oh god CS is like so unbelievably mathematical dudez! You wouldn't understand since your schools are all shit tier

I'm sick of CS majors not realizing their ¡non-programming! courses are laughable compared to math, physics, and engineering courses.

And their programming courses are a far cry from making them resemble any sort of competent programmer. There's literally no redeeming value in a CS degree.

>>7055427
I agree, unless you go to a silicon valley feeder school like Stanford, MIT, or waterloo. Then the degree is less about learning and more about networking.

>>7055304

Clearly then business majors are gods among STEM majors. 9 figures >>> 6 figures.

>>7055427
Physics and engineering are laughable compared to math.

>>7055440
lol engineering is piss easy compared to science degrees

>>7055481
Maybe if you're not talented at science.

>>7055440
Fuck, why does this picture have to be so true?

Can't they maybe emphasize tests a bit less and spend more time teaching how to do the difficult stuff instead?

>>7055427
>Comparing the level of math of computer science undergrad with that of mathematics undergrad
You're actually autistic, aren't you? No shit maths majors would learn more in depth math than computer science majors, since one literally focuses on maths and the other doesn't. But if you're implying graduate school in computer science does even a fair amount code monkey business then you're hilariously mistaken. Applied maths graduates does more coding than computer science graduates.

>>7054798
u fucking newb half of your experiments are going to be using the foundation of CS that makes the tools you use. Soon enough most of your useful experimentation will be done with robots and you might as well have opted for bioinformatics

>>7055363
yes this is true, while the math majors build the models they use to farm the information, and the physics majors do ??? probably something in between?

>>7055481
Science degrees are mostly memorization. Physics is just unapplied engineering.

>>7055520
>No shit maths majors would learn more in depth math than computer science majors, since one literally focuses on maths and the other doesn't

Tell that to the CS majors that call CS "basically math", "all math", "a superset of math", etc

>>7055485
yeah because third year eng courses are hard... Apply these here, and those there. I never saw ( but didn't look ) for strong problem solving skill assessments.

>>7055522
>CS
>making physical robots
And here we have a prime example of the CS retard exhibiting its natural reproductive rituals. The CS retard uses grandiose claims to attract others to join its useless and overhyped field, thus perpetuating its existence. This remarkable adaptation has allowed the retards to flourish in massive numbers since they can say virtually anything tangentially related to technology, despite having no knowledge of the subject matter, all while still superficially sounding intelligent.

Next time on Mutual of Omaha, we track a herd of these CS retards as they attempt to decide on how many javascript frameworks to use.

>>7055536
nope didn't say that you inferred the sentences were directly related, which isn't my fault. I'm also not a CS major, nor was I.

What do you plan to do in molbi? Or do you even recognize the difference between biochemistry, mol bi, mol phys, or organic chemistry?

>>7055539
>implying I'm the molbio guy

>>7055541
how can a bunch of idiots ( who aren't writing their own code ) chatterboxing the same ideas around be 'grandiose', 'flourish' or sound intelligent? Choosing a 'framework' doesn't even mean anything - if you mean a library then you're referred to a set of tools, and picking your tools before using them is the wrong way to code anyways.

>>7055548
I'm referring to how people like Zuckerberg, Page, et. al are basically the technological equivalent of child actors on the Disney Channel telling little children to "follow their dreams and become a pop singer." Computer science mainly produces widely publicized and well known products like websites, mobile applications, etc. Just like how we have all these impressionable kids wanting to become sitcom actors because of their exposure to television, now we also have hordes of people thinking that making websites is the most important thing in the universe because of their exposure to the internet. Worse, because these people are in a loosely "technical" field, politicians bend over backwards to make sure every last little boy and girl ends up making apps and websites because 'murica needs those good technology jobs, dammit!

>Choosing a 'framework' doesn't even mean anything - if you mean a library then you're referred to a set of tools, and picking your tools before using them is the wrong way to code anyways.
Ooooooohhhhhh boy. I see you haven't hung around these people before. Let me introduce you to the cancer.
https://news.ycombinator.com/

>>7055559
I can't respond to this I don't know how. But don't be mad that politics is driven by trending because all mass human behaviour seems to be based on creating false dichotomies and cycling between them.

>>7054591
who are you quoting?

>>7055563
I'm not strictly speaking about politics. Computer science has gotten so huge because of the fact that it's extremely conducive network growth effects, not because it's actually useful or has done anything really important. We're wasting our brightest minds and vast sums of financial resources on useless bullshit, and that's what I'm mad about.

>>7055574
vote for a pro ai government?