/sci/ - Science & Math

>>6981389
>quantify information
define this because the first writting systems would be better evidence of that

>>6981391

Not at all. To help show why not:

If two sentences have the same number of characters, do they contain the same amount of information? Do words with more diverse letters contain more information? Are some words intrinsically more informative than others, and by how much? What unit should be used for information?

>>6981398

>>If two sentences contain the same number of characters do they contain the same information.

Define "information".

>> Are some words intrinsically more informative

Linguistics has already solved this issue. Refer to Chomsky.


>>What unit should be used for information

DEFINE INFORMATION.

>>6981398
If two equations have the same amount of numerals in them, do they contain the same amount of information?

The answer is obviously no. Same with sentences m8.

>>6981389
No.

>Claude Elwood Shannon (April 30, 1916 – February 24, 2001) was an American mathematician, electronic engineer, and cryptographer known as "the father of information theory".[1][2]

>>6981413
You can fix that picture by making it read "Everything that's not math is for people too stupid for mathematics".

>>6981420

I took engineering because it was more important to discovering the meaning of the universe than either physics or math- both having a conceded picture of how the world works.

>>6981413
>X science is for people too stupid for real science
You're not a scientist, chucklefuck. Otherwise you would know that because computer science has science in its name, it clearly is a science.

>>6981425
Last time I checked the universe doesn't work without physics. But what do I know, maybe you changed the universe.

>>6981413
yet most of the billionaires are CS people. stay mad, fаggоt.

>>6981427
>because culinary science has science in its name, it clearly is a science

>>6981413

Lolwut? Information theory is run of the mill computer science. I'm guessing you're one of those people thinks computer science is programming.

>>6981413
>implying claude shannon wasn't a computer scientist

>>6981487
>applied sciences dont exist!
Get the fuck out, nerd.

>>6981487
>because political science has science in its name, it clearly is a science

>>6981499
>because library science has science in its name, it clearly is a science

>>6981502
>social sciences dont exist!
I can do this all day. How can a person with such a limited view of the world like you be a scientist?

>>6981413
>le epic /sci/ computer science meme
Do you really think your field would have progressed as much as it did in the last 50-60 years if it were not for the innovations of the superior CS mustard rice?

If not, kill yourself.

>>6981413
>le epic /sci/ computer science meme
Do you really think your field would have progressed as much as it did in the last 50-60 years if not from using the innovations of the superior CS mustard rice?

>>6981504
>because social science has science in its name, it clearly is a science

>>6981516
"Social science is a major branch of science"
Literally the first 8 words from Wikipedia.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not a real science. Your attitude is just as bad as that of creationists.

>>6981389
>be prehistory man
>count my berries
>scratch tally marks onto the cave wall
>Computer Scientist

>>6981518
>because information science has science in its name, it clearly is a science

>>6981523
>be prehistory man
>have 8 berries
>give 2 berries to each member of cave family
>Mathematician

>>6981526
>because health science has science in its name, it clearly is a science

>>6981430

Last time I checked, Physicists argue over bullshit that doesn't matter so it was less interesting to me than say whether or not naturally aspirated engines are superior vs. supercharging. You're physics degree means literally nothing in the real world because mechanical systems don't work on idealizations.

>because behavioral science has science in its name, it clearly is a science

Legend says they're still shitposting about real and fake sciences to this day

>>6981557
>You're physics degree means literally nothing in the real world because mechanical systems don't work on idealizations.
Ouch. This would almost be #rekt if you could spell right.

>>6981425
>I took the degree my guts wanted me to do and I'm spouting stupid arguments to defend my choice and make me feel right about it

bumparooni

>>6981511
This2

>>6981389
>Be a shepherd 9,000 years ago
>Invent system for knowing how many sheep I have
>Later develops into a number system
>Be the first person to quantify information
>9,000 years later
>See this faggot shitposting about computers.
>mfw