/sci/ - Science & Math

fusion > thorium

>>6927990
Worlds energy supply in the palm of his hand btw, and we have enough thorium in the states alone to power the earth for a thousand years with no other power source. Reduction of poverty in third world cities with the introduction of clean water (purified with power)

China is already doing it but the tech was invented and developed in the states, where there is no pursuit for it anymore.

Did I mention that thorium is 1950's tech?

>>6927995

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>>6927995
Fusion won't be around for 50+ years where as thorium could be tested and in practice within 10.

Besides, Fusion will power our ability to travel through space, Thorium will allow us to gracefully reach that point without poisoning our enviroment.

molten salts are corrosive and pumping them is a massive burden on pumping equipment, not only due to their density, but the MHD effects that must be taken into account when pumping them.

Fossil fuels expected to burn out in aprox 30 years how do we expect to fuel those 20 odd years of silence? With batteries? With current nuclear tech? With thousands of solar panels and wind turbines?

>>6927990
Because the only people excited for nuclear power are insufferable popsci faggots.

>>6927990
It's a waste of time to split funding between thorium and fusion. We chose fusion and we're sticking with it.

>>6928010
I bet you think Nuclear energy is scary

i was initially for LFTR but now i'm a little cautious because of the breeder potential

but there's an alternate design that runs off MOX and straight up waste rods and while a little dirtier, has the same safety and small size advantages
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/512321/safer-nuclear-power-at-half-the-price/

>>6928013
I bet you don't have a degree in Nuclear Engineering

>>6928016
Not him but I will soon and fusion is superior.

Jesus christ the thorium brigade just never fucking quits.

>>6928079
This. idk what armchair scientists and sperglords love about thorium so much but their infographics and repetition of information they saw in a YouTube video is annoying as shit. Especially when there are better reactor designs like HTGRs and based fusion

>>6927990
>>Why aren't you talking about Thorium?
Because we'll get small nuclear reactors sooner.

>>6928010
For molten salt reactors this is very true.

>>6928011
Honestly, we need to fund fusion more. It's the power of the gods, but we won't even spare pocket change to get it.

>>6927998
cool, how much would that amount of thorium cost ?

If I remember correctly, didn't the thorium reactor hype begin partially on /sci/? I'm sure I've got all of those infographics saved in some deep dark folder.

>>6928106

>popsci faggots!
>fusion is the power of the gods!

>>6928013
Fission plants are retarded scary. And retarded expensive

>>6927990
Why is he holding that piece of thorium with his bare hands? I mean sure, it probably won't kill him, but it's still reckless.

>>6927990
LFTR threads used to be all over the place. Kirk Sorenson is the big spokesman, but he's gone quiet recently. Probably ran out of funding.

>>6927995
how can something that still isn't developed after 50 years of research be more than something that was developed and put aside in the 1950s?

>>6927998
Remember "Pirates of Silicon Valley", where the Apple engineers descended on Xerox and stole their window+mouse UI tech to make the first Macintosh? That's what China did to the Oak Ridge LFTR research. They'll be pumping out modular thorium reactors to solve their energy and pollution crises within five years.

>>6928005
Corrosion is an issue, but there are solutions, like Hastalloy-N, removing fission products, and sacrificial anodes. Pumping isn't so much of a problem, because the salt fluids move slowly.

>>6928015
I wish people weren't so scared of breeder reactors and the unlikely thread of proliferation.

>>6928546
>salt fluids move slowly
they'll move as quickly as you need them to

>muh thorium

>>6927990
> #energyfromthorium
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>>6928546
>how can something that still isn't developed after 50 years of research be more than something that was developed and put aside in the 1950s?

according to lockheed, they are able to run fusion, though i somehow doubt they're telling us the whole truth with their dubious PR announcements

ITT /sci/ hates on LFTR's because it's butthurt about reddit

>>6928596
i don't hate htfrs but i hate that people that know fuck all about nuclear power or anything of the sort spout shit they see on infographics and spew shit about LFTR or bust without a clue about the advantages/disadvantages in reality, or any other newer reactor designs. it's just some shit they saw on the internet that they think other people don't know as much about and try to use it to sound more knowledgeable/intelligent

>muh fusion power

It's just around the corner! Just around the corner! Just around the corner! Just around the corner!

By the time fusion power hits, we'll have witnessed the second coming of Christ and be able to run the world on Jesus power.

>>6928667
fusion power will be here from a technology standpoint before thorium power is ever here from a licensing standpoint