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/sci/, have you read Einstein's defense of socialism? Sorry if only tangentially /sci/.
http://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

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I'm from Austria and it took me 25 years until I had a conversation with an American, working at the Air force, to learn that for you guys there's actually a negative connotation to the word "socialism".
Maybe it's silly of me, of course it's all in the movies, but I didn't make the connection that people actually view it that way.

After all, here the strongest party is SPÖ (similar to SPD in germany)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria
and they are member of Socialist communities. It's just a word to me. Like democracy or communinism. For Americans, being called socialist appears to be a huge insult, but nationalist is more or less okay. In fact I live in germany at the moment, and people here are quite cautious if you use "Rasse", race too often. It's easy to mock them :P

>> No.6911384

Well, I'm going to now. This will probably only serve to masturbate my own socialist views and give me a clever quip the next time I find myself arguing with a conservative, though.

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>>6911356

>> No.6911389

Back to your containment board.

>>>/pol/

>> No.6911397 [DELETED] 

>6911383

As an American, it makes me vibrate with anger that "socialism" is used as a derogatory term. We're raised in the shadow of McCarthyism. That has poisoned the ability of Americans, especially older Americans, to think critically about politics beyond America = Capitalism = good, Communism = Atheism = Russia = evil. I don't think we will ever dig ourselves out of this hole.

It's especially hilarious considering our physics, math, philosophy, and polysci (departments I'm involved with) are mostly socialist with the occasional libertarian, but the students in those departments and the general public cringe at the possibility that the Democrat/Republican dichotomy might be wrong.

>> No.6911401

>>6911383

As an American, it makes me vibrate with anger that "socialism" is used as a derogatory term. We're raised in the shadow of McCarthyism. That has poisoned the ability of Americans, especially older Americans, to think critically about politics beyond America = Capitalism = good, Communism = Atheism = Russia = evil. I don't think we will ever dig ourselves out of this hole.

It's especially hilarious considering our physics, math, philosophy, and polysci (departments I'm involved with) are mostly socialist with the occasional libertarian, but the students in those departments and the general public cringe at the possibility that the Democrat/Republican dichotomy might be wrong.

>> No.6911439

>>6911386
>>6911389
This isn't bait, and my views are hardly present as part of the discussion on /pol/, which discusses actual politics as much as /v/ discusses games.
I simply thought /sci/ browsers would actually read the article regardless of whether they agree with Einstein or not, and- knowing firsthand of his intelligence in non-economic areas- would be interested to see what he thought of socialism.

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>>6911389
>>6911386
Besides, if I were going to troll, I would use much more inflammatory language.