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Are the /sci/entists excited for the Rosetta mission to dock a comet and make history?

>> No.6866644

Don't care since it's not American

>> No.6866663
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>>6866644
>2014
>not rooting for the progress of all humanity

>> No.6866670

>>6866644
It's almost as if you're implying all rocket and space tech ever isn't European.

Seriously name a single engineering principle actually contributed by American scientists to the field and not just stolen from the Germans.

>> No.6867617

>>6866639
You best believe it! First orbit of a comet, and soon first soft landing on a comet. The release of Philae is scheduled for 08:35 GMT on Wednesday, with confirmation of landing around 16:00 GMT.

Have a steaming helping of hype: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H08tGjXNHO4

>> No.6867625

>>6867617
HHHYYYPPPEEE

>> No.6867635
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It's a shame there's just the one lander. Every time I see a new image of the comet, there's a whole host of things I wish we had the ability to explore.

>> No.6867715

>>6866663
sauce on the gif?

>> No.6867794

>>6866639
How big a failure will the mission be if the probe just gets buried in dust? Would we still be able to get any valuable data?

>> No.6867795

>>6867794
And is there a realistic risk of that happening?

>> No.6867815

http://rosetta.esa.int/

>> No.6867823

http://new.livestream.com/ESA/cometlanding

>> No.6867825

>>6867794
The orbiter will still continue and an impact should povide further insight into the composition of a comet and lessons for future missions.

>> No.6867829

>>6867635
You could say the same for all sorts of bodies. Even rovers and manned missions have only covered small areas so far.

>> No.6867832
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I say the lander will explode in a 10 megaton fireball just a few meters before it touches the comet

>> No.6867866

http://new.livestream.com/ESA/cometlanding

Now live.

Separation of lander at 2am EST

Touchdown at 9am EST

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6867890

Well, not exactly. But the live reporting.

>> No.6867902 [DELETED] 

Who all is a refugee, fleeing from authoritarian /sp/ janitors?

Why don't you have flags, /sci/?

Also, what are the betting odds this thing blows up on seperation?

>> No.6867908

Im gay

>> No.6867913

>separation happens in 13 hours
god dammit I have class in the morning

>> No.6867955

I'm not waking up at 6am to watch but I'll wake up early for this, I'm hyped.

>> No.6867960

Is there going to be live coverage of this? Does Rosetta have a camera that can transmit (relatively) live footage?

>> No.6867962

>>6867960
I should read the entire thread before posting. Sorry about this.

>> No.6867963

>>6867960
it takes 2 hours to get a single picture down, there are no video cameras

>> No.6867971

Watching the ESA live feed now.

There's so much autism in that room.

>> No.6867976

>>6867963
Two hours? Is that how long all data will take to get to us? So we're only going to find out if it was successful two hours later?

>> No.6867977

>>6867976
Or can we verify everything using a telescope?

>> No.6867978

>>6867976
a radio signal takes 30 minutes, but a picture takes 2 hours because they have very little bandwidth

>> No.6867979

>>6867902

Janitor in full blown meltdown today, deleting anything politics related.

/sci/ does this mission really matter tho? Are there gonna be surprises?

>> No.6867980

>>6867977
We can't see shit with our telescopes. At most we could pick up a tiny pixel that is slightly less black than the background.

>> No.6867982

>>6867979
There's a 99% chance it will blow up anyway.

>> No.6867985

>>6867979
a picture would be cool but nah not really

>> No.6867987

>>6867979
>are there going to be surprises?
This is a retarded question and I'll let you figure out why.

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>>6867902
Present.
Fuck the mods

First the car chase threads and now lander threads

>> No.6867995

>>6867978
Okay.

7.8 bit/s (S band)
22 kbit/s (X band)

Based on this info, the image they receive every 2 hours is 7.2MB in size at the very most on the S band.

>> No.6868013

>>6867987

Well jokes on you cause I'm not ever going to figure it out.

>> No.6868017

panic in the control room, lots of arm waving, now they all stand around the same monitor

I think it something has gone wrong.

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>>6866670

Get Rekt

>> No.6868025
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6868025

>Constant feed of a camera staring at an antenna

They actually have shit like that?
I thought that was just dumb background filler in movies to make a control room look science-ey

>> No.6868026

>>6868025
I think it's the wallpaper

>> No.6868038

wtf kind of music is that

>> No.6868042

>>6868038
I started laughing my ass off when that music started randomly

>> No.6868044

The fuck with that music?

>> No.6868045

I really hope the music is actually playing in the control room.

>> No.6868056

>that shit taste

>> No.6868081

>>6868056
Count your blessings it wasn't skrillex trying to be "hip and cool"

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>>6868044

>> No.6868139

>>6868038
I shit you not, they're playing a slow jazz/funk version of Aerosmith's Walk This Way.

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>>6868139

mfw I realize this

>> No.6868147

This smooth jazz tho

>> No.6868156

Are we supposed to be waiting for something?

>> No.6868159

>>6868156

in 9 hours, the lander will decouple from the ship and begin to land. several hours after that will be touchdown

>> No.6868181

>>6867617
well that was neat, some kind of super produced hype commercial?

>> No.6868187

>>6867635
Wait, is that water?!

if its water (or any other fluid) why would it come out the comet like that, as if it's pushed out. This implies that the inside of the comet is not solid (because some force which is a stronger force than the gravitational force of the body is pushing the fluid out).

anyone have a clue?! (inb4 aliens)

(whats the surface gravity of Churyumov–Gerasimenko btw...? its not mentioned on the wikipedia article)

>> No.6868198

>>6868139
Now its jazz Back in Black.

>>6868187
Where do you see liquid? Just looks like dust and rock to me.

>> No.6868199

>>6868187
comets are ice

>> No.6868201

>>6868139
>>6868198
>American music
where would humanity be without our mighty contributions to engineering and science?

>> No.6868215
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6868215

>The lander contains a "tool" named ALICE

PANIC
ESA CONFIRMED FOR UMBRELLA

>> No.6868282

>Now they're playing the TNG theme

NEEEEEEEEEERDS

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>>6866644
Thank you based America

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6868842

Does /sci/ believe there's bacteria in the center of comets? Do you fellows believe life on Earth may have been started by comets (since the Laws of Conservation of Mass and Energy states that you can't "make something from nothing")? Can the Rosetta prove/refute this?

>> No.6868889

>>6868842
It has been confirmed in other comets baka

>> No.6868911

>>6868889
Any sauce on that? I have seen no official report. It would've made world headlines I assume.

>> No.6868918

>>6868911
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet#Comets_and_impact_on_life
My bad, complex organic molecules, but I think you already knew this.

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>>6868918
Ah! I thought you were talking about actual prokaryotes. Organic molecules are promising though.

>> No.6869195

IT'S HAPPENING

http://rosetta.esa.int/

>> No.6869198

It's going to fail.

>> No.6869199

DAT SHIRT

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>>6869195
What a fantastic shirt.

>> No.6869201

is science finally cool again?

>> No.6869202

>>6869200
>Rosetta is sexy, but I never said she was easy.

HAH

>> No.6869204

>>6869201
Science is always cool.

>> No.6869205

>>6869200
>dis fukin guy

lel

>> No.6869206

>sexy mission
>Shes not easy
>Dat shirt

Holy shit this guy.

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>>6869202
>>6869200
Magnificent.

>> No.6869210

This woman hosting the stream, what's her native language? She puts really bizarre emphasis on some syllables.

>> No.6869211

>>6869200
>This is what a scientist looks like.

>> No.6869214

imagine the people who coded this, must have been insane

>> No.6869215

>>6869210
She's German.

>Monika Jones

http://monikajones.com/Frameset_home_english.htm

>> No.6869216

>>6869211
If the average scientist looks like a reasonably good-looking guy with a beard wearing a shirt covered in busty scantily-clad women, laser guns, and explosions, then science is cooler than we ever realised.

>> No.6869217

>>6869200
is that the same cannibal corpse scientist?

>> No.6869221

THIS SHIT IS SO COOL

>> No.6869230

I've been monitoring this mission all night, porn, metal, fuck tons of coffee, sugar and science are the only things preventing me from zonking out.

>> No.6869232

inb4 a great big whopping disappointment

>> No.6869233

>>6869232
ye of little faith

>> No.6869234

*clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap*

>> No.6869235

Why are they clapping? Did it explode?

>> No.6869236

butterflies in my stomach m8

>> No.6869238

>>6869235
The lander seperated successfully from Rosetta.

We'll see how it lands.

>>6869233 Only because I'm nervous. ;__;

>> No.6869239

>euro claps

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>> No.6869243

HOORAY

>> No.6869245

>vehicle detaches for landing
>crowd bursts into standing ovation
>yuropoor space exploration

>> No.6869247

ESA is racist, no blacks or religious minorities.

This is how world should be. We'd be colonizing mars by now.

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>>6869247
>tfw

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>>6869247
>All of the funding that could be pushed to space exploration if we didn't have to save africa or fight sand people 24/7

>> No.6869255

>>6869241
That video was too qt

>> No.6869257

Is the stream timing out for anyone else?

>> No.6869261

>>6869257
Yeah. I have to reload from time to time.

>> No.6869263

Great, and now we have to wait patiently for about 7 hours for the actual landing: http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11/07/rosetta-and-philae-landing-timeline/

>16:02:20 UTC
>EXPECTED LANDING and receipt of signal (Forecast; 40 min variability)

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>>6869241
it's even more kawaii than Hayabusa-san.

Fact: there is an anime about a japanese space probe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoaGZ2FAUqE
(it's really shitty though)

>> No.6869269

>>6869267
Goddamnit, I hate it when they do things like that. The whole point of space probes is to get sent out into the dark. You're not supposed to have feels for what is essentially a missile.

>> No.6869274

>>6868021
He sure sent rockets into space.
Oh right he didn't.

>> No.6869324

>>6866644
>mfw most americans actually think like that

this is no joke

>> No.6869326

>>6869324
>this is no joke

We know m8, we know

>> No.6869329

Guys, how is Rosetta keeping up with the comet? Momentum?

Also, when Philae approaches the comet, how is it keeping up?

>> No.6869330

>>6869329
grappling hooks

>> No.6869332

>>6869329
It's orbiting it you turd.

>> No.6869334

>>6869332
Does a comet really have a gravity field stron enought for Rosetta to orbit it?

>> No.6869335

>>6869334
Rosetta+Philae together weigh under 200kg, 67P is about the size of a city.

>> No.6869336

>mission has a 50% rate of success

kek, fucking yuropoors man, they'd be better off flipping a coin

>> No.6869339

>>6869332
I'm surprised the comet has enough mass to gravitationally hold Rosetta.

Also, fuck you and America.

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>>6868215
Hooray for space penises!

>> No.6869342

>>6869335
I'm impressed that we could calculate that from Earth.. wow science

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>>6868825
FTFY

>> No.6869346

I've just found out that to get the speed to leave Mars orbit, Rosetta had to use "gravity slings" This is so. fuckin. amazing.

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>>6869269
Space probes are fragile and should be cared for warmly.

Space probe designers should also not forget hayabusa's brave sacrifice when designing important subsystems. Poor Hayabusa came home crippled and had to reenter instead dropping the sample capsule and continuing on to a future mission.

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>>6869343

>> No.6869350
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>>6869342
Try landing and coming back from Moho in KSP.
Yeah yeah, childs play compared.
I hate Moho.
Stupid planet.

>>6869346
... I hope you're joking? Every single crap we send out uses slings to get where they're going.

>> No.6869352

>>6869332
>>6869334
>>6869335
>>6869339
"The gravity of the comet is too weak to hold Rosetta on orbit, so the sond uses little engines to keep close"

>> No.6869354

>>6869334
The comet has a mass of 10^13 kg which makes it the smallest orbited object ahead of Eros and Vesta.

>> No.6869359

>>6869339
it weighs like 10^13 kg mate, that's like 10,000,000,000,000 kilograms

>> No.6869360

>>6869350
I am still amazed that we can calculate few years plan to move around planets just to get speed going.

>> No.6869361

>>6869352
Where are you getting this from? All I've heard is that it's orbiting the comet. Does it have enough fuel to keep close for another year?

>> No.6869364

>>6869360
You can do that with a simple cheap calculator. In fact, that's how we did the first moonlanding.

>> No.6869365

>>6869361
http www crazynauka pl/misja-rosetta-ladowanie-philae-komecie-warto-wiedziec/

Polish website about the project

>> No.6869366

>>6869360
Go play KSP mate

>> No.6869367

>>6869361
Follow the stream, numbnuts. They even had to change the approach and drop just recently and have made CGI videos showing it all.

>> No.6869370

>>6869350
yeah like thats how america brought tom hanks back from the moon after apollo 13 failed midway through it

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>>6869367
>Follow the stream

There's nothing on the stream m8 apart from some guys sitting around.

I know they had to do crazy manoeuvres to get into the right place beforehand.

>After catching up with the comet Rosetta will slightly overtake and enter orbit from the ‘front’ of the comet as both the spacecraft and 67P/CG move along their orbits around the Sun. Rosetta will carry out a complex series of manoeuvres to reduce the separation between the spacecraft and comet from around 100 km to 25-30 km. From this close orbit, detailed mapping will allow scientists to determine the landing site for the mission’s Philae lander. Immediately prior to the deployment of Philae in November, Rosetta will come to within just 2.5 km of the comet’s nucleus.

>> No.6869373

>>6869371
>nothing on the stream
Then you haven't been paying attention.
There has been several interviews, live coverage and CGI comparisons of the old trajectory compared to the new one.

>> No.6869376

>>6869373
Sorry, I didn't wake up at 6am, when I got up and turned the stream it was the end of the interviews.

>> No.6869378

>>6869373
>several interviews live coverage CGI comparisons
>something

pick one

>> No.6869381

>>6869376
>>6869378
There's been at least 3 short updates with interviews, updates and coverages. Yes, a lot of dead time in between, but I'm just sitting here bored out of my mind with nothing to do, so I got the stream running on a separate monitor just in case.
Also, Norway here, didn't have to wake up that early.

>> No.6869382

>>6869381
>more the one monitor
>2014

pick one

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>>6869349
FTFY

>> No.6869385

>>6869382
When you work with editing, you pretty much need 3 monitors.

>> No.6869386

>>6869385
>tfw have two and want a third
>tfw not enough room on my desk

>> No.6869387

>>6869384
>>6869349
>>6869343
>>6868825

any behind the scenes pics?

>> No.6869388

Something is happening on the stream

>> No.6869389

IT'S HAPPENING NOW

>> No.6869391

>>6869387
Yes. Flag is kill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMBcLg0DkLA

>> No.6869392

>>6869386
Honestly, 3'rd is mostly for Skype and other social stuff. Not working now, so stream on 3'rd, 4chan on 2'nd and just doing some bored drawing on main.
Talking of which, stream is active right now.

>> No.6869394

IN COSAC WE TRUST!

>> No.6869395

>>6869389
It's already happened, it's probably just going to be a summary of what happened earlier (successfull decoupling)

>> No.6869396

Gonna receive the imagery of the separation from the prob any moment now....

>> No.6869397

what's the stream actually going to be of? Surely they're not streaming from the actual spacecraft

>> No.6869398

>>6869395
>>6869389
Take that back, forgot about the entire goddamn signal.
Please respond

>> No.6869399

>>6869397
Watch it.
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/362/events/3544091
No, it's a stream from the center and their reactions to getting data / not getting data. The release of the little friend went good earlier, now it's a little too scary ...

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>>6869384

>> No.6869401

>>6869396
I'm so freacking excited

>> No.6869402

This doesn't look good ... then again, delays have happened all the time and turned out OK ...

>> No.6869404

I CAN'T TAKE THIS
This is Curiosity all over again, and then I thought I was going to die of excitement

>> No.6869408

HE POINTED AT THE MONITOR HL3 CONFIRMED

>> No.6869410

>>6866639
>>6869402
>>6869404
>>6869408

ffs

>> No.6869411

What kind of information do they get from these monitors?

>> No.6869413

11:59 utc Start of stored data downlink from Rosetta & Philae

http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11/07/rosetta-and-philae-landing-timeline/
- Timeline.

>> No.6869414

>>6869411

They receive data from Rosetta.

>> No.6869415

>>6869411
Waiting for data from Philea relayed from Rosetta

and it seems we have it! YEAH!

>> No.6869416

Man, that was tense.

>> No.6869417

link confirmed faggits

>> No.6869418

>>6869415
Philae* whops

>> No.6869419

>go for a fag
>miss all the happenings

>> No.6869420

>5 hours til touchdown

>> No.6869421

>>6869420
Sounds like a regular american football game to me

>> No.6869422

>>6869420
And thank fucking something for that, 'cause I don't have the nerves to deal with any more right now.

>> No.6869429 [DELETED] 

lol european success

>european
>success

pick one

all hair the peoprs republic

>> No.6869430

Is it weird that I'm getting emotional over this?

I really want everything to go fine.

>> No.6869431

>>6869429
ayy lmao

>> No.6869432

>>6869430
we all do, anon, we all do...

>> No.6869433

>>6869430
Nope.
I thought I was going to die during the signal break of Curiosity. And a little just now while waiting for confirmation.

>> No.6869434

Bunch of awkward people standing around

>> No.6869435

i wonder if any of those 5 frequent /sci/

probably not, they're not autistic enough

>> No.6869436

>>6869434
Welcome to science. Now shut up.

>> No.6869437

any pics yet of separation?

>> No.6869438

>>6869433
Watching that stream with friends is one of my best memories.

>> No.6869439

>>6869435
wait...

>> No.6869440

>>6869437
Don't think any images will be sent until Rosetta comes back.

>> No.6869441

>that xkcd live comic updated every 30 mins
Neat as fuck.

>> No.6869445

>>6869440
>Rosetta comes back
You mean the link? It is back now.

>> No.6869446

>>6869441
Good to know I'm not the only one keeping an eye on it
(by the way, do harpoons actually work on comets?)

>> No.6869448

>>6869440
they're actually awaiting pics any minute now

>active descend system cant be turned on
I'm so fucking nervous

>> No.6869449

>>6869445
No, not the link, I know the link is OK.
When Rosetta dropped off Philae, it passed quickly away from photo range. They will do a maneuver later on her to get her back, this was explained earlier with CGI videos in the coverage.

>> No.6869450

>>6869448
harpoons are still on the table. Hope it'll be enough

>> No.6869452

>>6869448
Ah, so it did manage to get some while going by? Sweet!
WEEEE
Yeah, I'm weee'ing. Deal with it.

>> No.6869453

>>6869449
They said they're waiting for data including pictures right now.

>> No.6869456

wasn't the pictures expected to be here 30 minutes ago?

>> No.6869459

>>6869456
they said Soon™

>> No.6869460

>>6869456
Not sure what you're basing that on, but the entire mission was delayed with an hour due to change of trajectory.

>> No.6869462

>>6869460
Ah, I must have missed the update.

>> No.6869467

>>6869446

We have no idea. That's what make this whole thing so interesting. We have no idea what the surface is going to be like.

>> No.6869469

food -----> h-building

>> No.6869473

>tfw my institute built one of the measuerment devices
feels wierd knowing it's just landing on a giant space rock.

>> No.6869475

>>6869467
I'm going for carved hexagonal shapes myself. Long shot, but it may pay out.

>> No.6869476

>>6869473
>>tfw my institute built one of the measuerment devices
>feels wierd knowing it's just landing on a giant space rock.

Have you worked on it?

>> No.6869477

>>6869473
are you ate the mpi in göttingen?
>tfw going to live event directly made by the creators

>> No.6869478
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6869478

>> No.6869479

can she stop r-r-r-olling her r-r-r's?

>> No.6869480
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>>6869446
hopefully, the concept alone is so great

>> No.6869481

>>6869478
Its just like my Kerbal Space Program.

>> No.6869482
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6869482

>>6869478
1000 hours in photoshop

>> No.6869484

>>6869473
The Open University near me built Ptolemy which is the gas analysis instrument.

>> No.6869486

>>6869476
no I graduated a year to late, but my friends did.

>> No.6869488

>>6869482
My sides.

>> No.6869490

What is the actual problem with the thruster? Will they still command it to fire even if it's believed to be non-operational, or would that be too risky?

>> No.6869492

I want image already

>> No.6869493

>>6869486
woah! which device are we talking about? Do you have any interesting info?

>> No.6869494

>>6869481
ksp would run out of memory and crash

>> No.6869496

https://twitter.com/ESA_Rosetta
https://twitter.com/Philae2014

>@ESA_Rosetta I will send you hundreds of postcards from #67P :) #CometLanding

ESA stop being so kawaii

>> No.6869499

>>6869494
16GB Corsair Vengance, biatch

>> No.6869500
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6869500

>>6869479
nein

>> No.6869503

>>6869481
I haven't touched ksp in months.
Is it getting updated or what?

>> No.6869504

>>6869482
I chuckled.

>> No.6869505
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6869505

>>6869496
2cute4me

>> No.6869507
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6869507

>>6869441
>worried

Wut?

>> No.6869510
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6869510

>>6869482
Just to piss everyone off.

>> No.6869511

>>6869493
CONSERT (Comet Nucleus Sounding Experiment by Radiowave Transmission)
Can't tell you much, but they've done a ton of research and testing, they've been to grenoble a few times.

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6869513

>>6869507

>> No.6869514

>>6869507
Last I heard, there was problem with the trustees, without it Philae won't be able to push down on the surface while the drills and harpoon are fired.

>> No.6869517
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>>6869510

>> No.6869518
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6869518

>>6869513
>>6869514
Pls no

>> No.6869519

>>6869514

Seems >>6869510 will happen

>> No.6869520

>>6869514
>>6869513
>>6869507
>During checks on the lander’s health, it was discovered that the active descent system, which provides a thrust to avoid rebound at the moment of touchdown, cannot be activated.

>At touchdown, landing gear will absorb the forces of the landing while ice screws in each of the probe’s feet and a harpoon system will lock Philae to the surface. At the same time, the thruster on top of the lander is supposed to push it down to counteract the impulse of the harpoon imparted in the opposite direction.

>"The cold gas thruster on top of the lander does not appear to be working so we will have to rely fully on the harpoons at touchdown,” says Stephan Ulamec, Philae Lander Manager at the DLR German Aerospace Center. “We’ll need some luck not to land on a boulder or a steep slope.”

http://sci.esa.int/rosetta/54930-rosetta-and-philae-go-for-separation/

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6869521

>>6869520

>> No.6869522

>>6869514
They sound very optimistic anyways, they always account for a main scenario going to fuck and the backup plan being more than good enough.
Though, the harpoons are scary, as they might just hit dust. Which is a lot of it. Almost all of it.
But hell, they landed Curiosity, didn't they, which was experimental as fuck.

>> No.6869523

>>6869511
This is so freacking cool! That's the very device that is supposed to investigate the core, isn't it?

>> No.6869524

>>6869514
>trustees
trusters*, god dammit
I dont know how that happened, I'm not even on mobile.

>> No.6869525

>>6869505
:3

>> No.6869527

>>6869524
try again

>> No.6869528
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6869528

>EVERYTHING MIGHT DEPEND OF HARPOONING A FUCKING COMET

>> No.6869529

>>6869517
That's sad. I'm sad. We're both sad.

>> No.6869530

>>6869522
What else can they do. It is YOLO at this point

>> No.6869531

>>6869521
THIS.. THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE THRUSTERS NOT WORKING.

WHY HAWKING WHYYYYY

>> No.6869532
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6869532

>>6869527

>> No.6869533

>>6869510
>>6869517
>>6869529
>>>/mlp/

>> No.6869534

>>6869523
yep it's going to determine its composition via dielectric properties.

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>>6869510
...

>> No.6869537

Won't touchdown be too hard if they have no thrusters?

>> No.6869539

>>6869537
No, they changed the trajectory to compensate.

>> No.6869540

MAAN THE HARPOONS

>> No.6869541

>>6869537
It's opposite — the top thrusters are (possibly) broken, so Philae will struggle no stay on the surface.

>> No.6869543

>>6869537
we are just going to shoot a harpoon at million year old ice instead and hope for the best.

>> No.6869545

Pictures expected in about 100 min

>> No.6869546

>>6869541
I presume the top thruster was to give philae better grip so the harpoons could dig in?

>> No.6869547

>>6869534
So. freacking. cool. Where are your friends right now. Why aren't you having a "our freacking shit is in space" party?

>> No.6869548

>>6869540
probe*
It's completely automatic

>> No.6869551
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6869551

Capitalism here, can we mine comets like we could mine asteroids, and how much one asteroid is worth?

>> No.6869552
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6869552

fuck, I should be studying right now

>> No.6869553

Is there another stream anywhere?

The ESA is presumably overloaded,

>> No.6869554

>>6869551
>Mining water
Yeah, totally worth it.

>> No.6869555

>>6869546
Indeed. And after tne years of research since take off, they've discovered that the comet possibly aren't as firm as they thought, so let's hope the harpoons get a proper grip!

>> No.6869556

>>6869553
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/362/events/3544091

>> No.6869558

>>6869554
But comets aren't pure ice are they?

>> No.6869559

>>6869554
Water in space is actually worth quite a lot.

>> No.6869560

>>6869552
This IS studying. This is more important than whatever else you're studying right now. Hell, you can probably make a thesis on it on emotions and shit around it at some point.

>> No.6869561

>>6869556
ta lad

>> No.6869562

Were's the pictures sent from Rosetta just now?

>> No.6869566

>>6869547
they have to "work", but I'm pretty sure they're following the stream aswell. Technically I have to correct theoretical electrodynamics papers for my prof right now but oh well.

>> No.6869569

>>6869562
What? NOW?

>> No.6869572

>>6869569
Okey, maybe not now, but after Phil was released.

>> No.6869577

>>6869572
It took a bloody long time with Curiosity, so guess it will be no different now. I don't know the deals about it, but low bandwith is for sure one. With Curiosity we got some heavily compressed images first, then much much later we got the real deal.

>> No.6869579

Is there going to be a video of this thing landing?

>> No.6869581

>>6869552
>>6869566
Well I blew off my classes at university of technology today just to stay put. I hope they'll understand

>> No.6869582

Anyone got a working stream?

>> No.6869583

>>6869579
Yes, they have a camera crew from the wildlife department of BBC standing by on site.

>> No.6869584

>>6869581
What classes?

>> No.6869585

>>6869579
... really?

>> No.6869586

>>6869584
nothing special, math analysis (or whateva you call it in english) and eloectrotechnics

>> No.6869587

>>6869583
>>6869585
The had one for curiosity so why not this?

>> No.6869589

>>6869582
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/362/events/3544091
But nothing is going to happen for at least 3 hours now. Maybe some summary and interviews, but until the landing happens, nothing really exciting is happening, except confirming everything is on track.

>> No.6869590

>>6869586
Maths analysis sounds rather dull

>> No.6869591

>>6869577
Sounds sound.

>>6869587
Philea has a landing camera underneath, so we'll probably get this data.

>> No.6869593

So many beautiful and chilling pictures:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/europeanspaceagency/sets/72157638315605535

>> No.6869594

>>6869589
Not working for me.
Been retrying for like 10 minutes.

>> No.6869596

>>6869593
I really hope that bitch suceeds to land.

>> No.6869597

>>6869590
It is quite important if you wanna start to understand physics

>> No.6869598

>>6869593
Are these from Philae?

>> No.6869599

>>6869598
no

>> No.6869600

>>6869587
Curiosity had much more modern tech, Rosetta is bloody 10 years old. There probably will be some kind of "video" but I don't think it's much more than a set of stills, or horrible FPS.

>>6869591
You got any data on the camera it has? I can't find any info on it (though I didn't really try)

>> No.6869601

>>6869590
I suppose he is talking about mathematical analysis,

>> No.6869602

>>6869594
Ok, nevermind. It's working now all of sudden.

>> No.6869606

>>6869600
there will be only pictures

>> No.6869607
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>>6869593
>you will never have the power to fly into space at FTL speed
>you will stay on Earth your whole life
>You will never watch the beauty of the universe with your own eyes

>> No.6869615

What sort of data will the lander be sending back?

>> No.6869616

>>6869607
I am so much more happy living in this age when so much exciting shit happens and it's not something that's "oh, you went to Mars? Yes, I was there 6 times last year, getting tired really".

>> No.6869619

>>6869615
Composition of the comet is an important one.

>> No.6869620

>>6869615
pics and scientific data.
Pics should include Rosetta at separation, descend and a panoramic once it lands.

>> No.6869621

>>6869607
I would rather be in a team creating a robot going to outer space than be an astronaut physically going there. The astronaut is merely the labourer, it's with robots the real exiting stuff happens. Technology is extensions of the human body.

>> No.6869622

>>6866639

yo sci where is stream of the lander?

>> No.6869624

ESA-Director Rhomas Reiter says: "50% chance of success"

Doesn't sound promising

>> No.6869625

>>6869616
i just want to meet aliums

>> No.6869627

>>6869624
suace

>> No.6869628

>>6869622
RTFT

>> No.6869630

>>6869624
Top worry.

>> No.6869632

>>6869628

no give me stream link plox

>> No.6869633

>>6869619
Does it have the equipment to determine if there are micro organisms in the ice?

>> No.6869634

>>6869624
>no link

ayyyyy

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>>6869624
Don't die!

>> No.6869637

>>6869633
>COSAC
yup

>> No.6869638

>>6869634
lmao

>> No.6869639

>>6869607
>>you will never have the power to fly into space at FTL speed
Stop your whining, the solar system is a big enough place as is and we haven't explored it much either.

>You will never watch the beauty of the universe with your own eyes
Buy a goddamn telescope then or go the fuck outside.

>> No.6869640

>>6869622
http://www.xkcd.com/1446/

>> No.6869641

>>6869627
>>6869634

It's in german so i didn't bother

>> No.6869644

>>6869633
First of all, that's pretty much not going to happen.
Second, as with Curiosity, not directly, but it can very perfectly analyze molecules, so indirectly, yes.

>> No.6869645

>>6869641
i spik german gib link jetzt!

>> No.6869646

>>6869641
Have it anyways:

http://www.focus.de/wissen/weltraum/raumfahrt/rosetta-mission-im-live-ticker-philae-erfolgreich-abgespalten_id_4268005.html

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>>6869646
Fuuuuck

>> No.6869648

>>6869646
>zdf morgenmagazin
he just wanted to atrophy old peoplez

>> No.6869651

Hype.

>> No.6869653

>>6869640

its just a picture.

>> No.6869654

>>6869653
Yes, but it's live.

>> No.6869658

what is happening. why German all of sudden

>> No.6869659

>>6869658
really? why german?

>> No.6869661

>>6869658
The Fourth Reich has started

>> No.6869662
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>>6869636
>>6869482
>>6869241
cute
is this the most kawaii mission to date?

>> No.6869664

>>6869658

German control center.

>> No.6869665

Only 3 hours left!

>> No.6869668

>>6869662
alpha as fuark

>> No.6869672

>>6869662
Watch how Rosetta fails and he looks like an idiot.

>> No.6869675

What should I do to work with something like this in the future?

I'm finishing my bachelor of physics at the moment, should be done by christmas.

>> No.6869677

thread is autosaging, let's continue here
>>6869567

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>>6869677
>still on page one
>on the slowest board on 4chan

>> No.6869685

>>6869675

Aeronautical engineering, astrophysics, etc.

>> No.6869688

>>6869662
I hope his name is Gordon...

>> No.6869689

>>6869684
>slowest board on 4chan
sure you do not ride bikes nor trains

>> No.6869691

>>6869675
>bachelor
Isn't it kinda expected in your field that you at least finish your master, before being hired anywhere?

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>>6869684
>slowest board on 4chan

Pretty sure that's /po/ or something

>> No.6869698

>>6869675
pure math

>> No.6869702

inb4 monumental failure

>> No.6869708

>>6869702
>Philae bounces off the comet so hard it affects its trajectory
>comet collides with earth and everyone dies

>> No.6869711

>>6869698
Stop it. Pure math is strictly for if you want to teach uni.

>> No.6869712

>>6869708
>CERN creating black holes
>this
why is Europe trying so hard to doom us all

>> No.6869714

>>6869567
>>6869567
>>6869567
Let us all move all discussions to the new thread just for consistency's sake.

>>6869708
A even better show then expected then

>> No.6869734
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>>6869607
Why do you think I study Mechanical Engineering, you little shit?

>> No.6869739

>>6869616
>>6869621
>>6869639

All legitimately basement dwellers and/or autistic.

>> No.6869748

>>6869653
Randall the drawfag updates it every five minutes.

Hilarious, and slightly sad, that this is the only way to get an english stream, SFAIK.

>> No.6869759

>>6869748
It's the only stream that's working for me.
I'm literally watching a livestream via 4chan comments and stick-figure drawings.

>> No.6869762

>>6869759
What a time to be alive.

>> No.6869810
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6869810

>>6869663

Quite possibly.

>> No.6870024

Jesus, someone get this guy a translator.

>> No.6870034

>>6870024
he´s the one who discovered the comet right?

>> No.6870047

>>6870034
who cares, get that old slav shit out of there

>> No.6870058

>>6870047
>>6870024
>>6870034
Guess they gotta pay the guy some lip service. Can't tell if he's nervous or senile.

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>>6869759
http://new.livestream.com/ESA/cometlanding

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6870065

fucking slav shits everywhere

>> No.6870070

>>6870058
He clearly just doesn't speak good English.

>> No.6870078

10/10 russian translator

>> No.6870087

>>6870078
she had a cute smile :D

>> No.6870088

>>6870078
She sounds Australian

>> No.6870114

Fuck, that image of the tiny lander against the blackness really hit home the remote nature of this mission.

>> No.6870145

>>6870098
The lander will explode like a fucking nuke. I guarantee it.

>> No.6870155

>>6870145
It contains no fissile materials.

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6870163

>>6870114

>> No.6870169

ESA photo page failing on load.
what is the current ETA. 1:45 from now?

>> No.6870176

>>6870169
>>6869567

>> No.6870178

>>6870169
less than 40min

>> No.6870182
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6870182

>> No.6870185

The EU,if the mission is a success,will take the lead in spacescience/spacetravel

>> No.6870188

>>6870155
The comet has a potential of several hundred million volts relative to the lander. It will be vaporized a few meters before it lands.

>> No.6870193

>>6870185
The ESA and EU are not directly related. And no, the ESA won't take the lead just by being the first to orbit and land on a comet. NASA has two big events next year: Dawn orbiting Ceres and New Horizons flying by Pluto.

>> No.6870216

>>6870193
The ESA is funded by the EU member states,how are they not related?even Luxembourg pays millions.well "lead" might overstretch things but still,it was never done before.Worst case,Nasa,Esa,India and china will racing for the mars.

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This mission is a complete disaster! Only 3 Niggers.
This is completely racist we need more diversity.

>> No.6870346

>>6870216
Because ESA is also funded by Norway and Switzerland while some EU members like Croatia and Bulgaria are not part of it. There are a lot of smilar pan-European organizations.
They are not entirely unrelated though:
http://www.esa.int/About_Us/Welcome_to_ESA/ESA_and_the_EU

>> No.6870470

>>6870346
>all in europe
>not knowing that the european idea will in time grow in every european citizens
pls Merrica,you had the moon landing,now shhh its bed time,adult stuff is happening here.

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>> No.6871084

Humanity just landed on a comet.

>> No.6871132
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6871132

>>6871084

510 millions kilometers away

just wow

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>>6871084

>> No.6871470

Science Fiction has become Science Fact today

>> No.6871790

>>6871470
>Hollywood is good, but Rosetta is better.

>> No.6872009

>>6870296
I counted 3 Asians, 3 Indians and only 1 African. Everyone else is European.

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6872739

>>6869269
feels, you say?

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6872746

>>6872739
and a reminder that Hayabusa2 is launching November 30.

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>>6872746

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>> No.6872825

>>6872780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lptDXWyxj0

>> No.6872842

>>6872822
thats european precision for you

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6872941

Good aye mate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEC00CZJBDs