/sci/ - Science & Math

Mars is, by far, more readily habitable than Venus.

Just because Venus is almost the same size as the earth doesn't automatically make it easier to habit
>400 something degrees
>atmosphere so thick you can't see past it
>volcanoland beneath that

Think about it like this. What planet would be more easily changeable? Venus and it's intense pressure and average daily heat of ~700°F, or Mars and it's lack of pressure with it's colder temps? With Mars, we would have to introduce more greenhouse gasses to the planet instead of trying to reverse the runaway greenhouse gas effect that we readily see on Venus. Although Venus doesn't get much love at all compared to Mars, it's just in he sense that we are currently seeking possible places to expand as a civilization, and Mars would be all that much easier in the long run.

>>6763524
He didn't say habitable, he said important.

I agree with him. There's more to learn on Venus than on Mars.

>>6763533
>>6763540
Venus has more investigative value. Though, I agree that colonization on mars is a good idea.

>>6763346
Mars is more monetizable therefore more important. Money is not a bugaboo, it is a way of seeing the universe.

>>6763524
>>6763533
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_Venus#Aerostat_habitats_and_floating_cities

http://www.universetoday.com/15570/colonizing-venus-with-floating-cities/

>>6763540
mars can't even really hold onto an atmosphere though

>>6764009
>Landis has proposed aerostat habitats followed by floating cities, based on the concept that breathable air (21:79 Oxygen/Nitrogen mixture) is a lifting gas in the dense carbon dioxide atmosphere, with over 60% of the lifting power that helium has on Earth.[4] In effect, a balloon full of human-breathable air would sustain itself and extra weight (such as a colony) in midair. At an altitude of 50 kilometres (31 mi) above Venerian surface, the environment is the most Earth-like in the solar system – a pressure of approximately 1 bar and temperatures in the 0°C–50°C range.[5] Because there is not a significant pressure difference between the inside and the outside of the breathable-air balloon, any rips or tears would cause gases to diffuse at normal atmospheric mixing rates rather than an explosive decompression, giving time to repair any such damages.[citation needed] In addition, humans would not require pressurized suits when outside, merely air to breathe, protection from the acidic rain and on some occasions low level protection against heat. Alternatively, two-part domes could contain a lifting gas like hydrogen or helium (extractable from the atmosphere) to allow a higher mass density.[6]

>At the top of the clouds the wind speed on Venus reaches up to 95 m/s (approximately 212 mph), circling the planet approximately every four Earth days in a phenomenon known as "super-rotation".[7] Colonies floating in this region could therefore have a much shorter day length by remaining untethered to the ground and moving with the atmosphere. Allowing a colony to move freely would also reduce structural stress from the wind.

This makes me want cry tears of soy.

If you can remember Viking, you will forever love Mars.

>>6763540
Venus, because it can maintain an atmosphere. While Mars, with its lack of a magnetic field cannot. And any atmosphere we introduce to it will wash away.

>>6763346
Mars can be terraformed, Venus cannot.

>>6764122
As if we needed to terraform when we can float on the atmosphere indefinitely.

>>6764122
Actually, ages ago, folks were floating theories about taking advantage of the thick atmosphere, and terraforming Venus all at once, through a single chain reaction.

>>6763346
We need to take half of the atmosphere of Venus and take it to mars, two birds with one rocketship

>>6764012
>tears of soy.
I'm assuming that was intentional

>>6763346
>2014
>interested in planets that have a retrograde rotation

>>6763346
Lone Stars & Nomad Planets, the more you look, the more you find. Venus (slow retrograde rotation) may be an example of a captured nomad.

>>6763946
>Venus has more investigative value.

How so?

>>6766112
I can find nothing expanding on this theory.

>>6763346
War is cooler than love.
Eat shit hippie.