/sci/ - Science & Math

The Mandelbrot set is useless "le math nerd" nonsense for uneducated pseudo-intellectual reddit teenagers. It has no applications, neither outside of math nor within any area of math. Its sole purpose is to be visualized as "le epic fractal xD". Wow, someone created just another fractal picture. Great job, such math.

>>6649800
>What is Mandelbrot set ?
google.com

>And why it is used as a proof for existence of God ?

Because people like to pull magic out of things they don't understand. Hence the reason why Deepak Chopra writes and sells so many books chock full of bullshit.

pic related, it's icepak chopra.

>>6649800
>Mandelbrot set
>proof for existence of God
Where do you find these kinds of people? The youtube comment section?

>>6649805
except that fractals are incredibly useful in the fields of 3d rendering, procedurally-generated terrain, radio communication, and a myriad of other things.

>>6649805
Just because some pop-sci/pop-math faggots use it to memespout on the internet, doesn't mean we should outright deny it.
I mean by your logic, we might as well just stop QM research.

>>6649817
>stop QM research

And nothing of value is lost. What happens at the smallest scale of particle doesn't affect us because (surprise!) we are much larger than particles.

>>6649808
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkwCl0ymTfg

>>6649821

>>6649820
QM is a huge generalization.
I lean on the side with GR anyways but any research in say electrodynamics will inevitably be generalized as a part of QM.

>>6649817
It's a set of complex numbers that forms a fractal when plotted. I can't really explain it unless you've done 2nd or 3rd year undergrad maths.

> And why it is used as a proof for existence of God ?
If people know that their beliefs are on shaky ground, they'll look for any shitty excuse to justify the belief.


>>6649820
>implying QM doesn't have applications

What are transistors? What are lasers? What is nuclear engineering? What is condensed matter physics? What is quantum computation research?

>>6649846
>What are transistors? What are lasers? What is nuclear engineering? What is condensed matter physics? What is quantum computation research?
>didn't include chemistry

>>6649846
>transistors
electronics, not QM

>lasers
optics, not QM

>nuclear engineering
atomic physics, not QM

>condensed matter physics
some chemistry stuff, not QM

>quantum computation
a buzzword

>>6649861
your brain is a buzzbrain

>>6649861
Ever taken a physic lesson ?
Or just full retard ?

>>6649870
I have a PhD in physics.

>>6649871
>PhD in Physics
>Doesn't know shot about lasers or AP

>>6649874
Bitch please. I don't have the time to educate you. Come attend one of my lectures (if you ever get into my god tier graduate programme).

>>6649861
>transistors
>electronics, not QM

I have a PhD in jack shit and even I know that semiconductor design uses quantum electrodynamics, which is part of quantum mechanics.

>>6649878
>Come attend one of my lectures (if you ever get into my god tier graduate programme).

>>6649878
>meme
>I don't have the time to educate you
You sure have time to shitpost about things you have no concept of.

>>6649878
Please, tell me (without using QM) how the very simple Hydrogen atom can be stable.
Then, we will speak of other things such as nuclear reactions or laser.

>in b4 planetary model

It's used as proof I guess? I mean, trees, roots, your veins (nerves, anything cellular that grows into a structure), transistors, clouds, ice, snowflakes, broccoli, fractures, cracks, river formations, etc are all examples of imperfect fractals found in nature.

Someone explain why so many things use fractals, is it physics' way to natually conserve energy? What is it?

>>6649892
>Someone explain why so many things use fractals, is it physics' way to natually conserve energy? What is it?

It's just sometimes the most efficient way for an organism to make something. Look up 'the fibonacci series and pinecones' and it'll explain it better

>>6649892
Transistors aren't found in nature, I know, just don't comment on that.

>>6649887
Give me one reason why it shouldn't be stable. Come on, fag. We observe hydrogen atoms in nature and they're stable as fuck. Do you even science?

whats does your attempt at persuasive coearsive prejudice tactics in insulting people or the theory itself show about your own agendas and insecurities ?why use insults aimed towards fourm readers and researchers as a pathetic means to suppress researching in the subject as a demotivation?why use us versus them ? im sad for you feeling threatened and butthurt by it and its relation to nature and patterns evoking some repressive authoritarian mentality toward it... Are you a paid govt poster or just have beef with the theists or are trolling?I ask this since it seems your main goal through the above examples you set is aimed at suppression of something and I take that to mean you are trying to hide something or know something and no im not talking about theism.

>>6649903
Holy shit please punctuate properly.

>>6649800
>What is Mandelbrot set ?

Watch chapter 5 and 6. They're both short approachable videos that you can understand with elementary school level mathematics.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/6cpTEPT5i0A?list=PL3C690048E1531DC7

>And why it is used as a proof for existence of God ?
Because people are fucking dipshits who don't realize fractals don't actually exist in nature.

>>6649805
Ignore this retard.

>>6649901
Why it shouldn't ?
Try to explain it with Newton's mechanic. You can't. Newton's mechanic can't explain why the H atom is stable because charged particules are beaming (don't know the exact word in english, rayonnate ?) and therfore loose energy and should crash on the nucleus.
But you can explain why it is stable with Heisenberg inequality.

>>6649910
You have no idea what the Heisenberg inequality is.

I can demonstrate it ><
In QM position and impulsion are Fourier Transform of each other. The "Heisenberg inequality" is an inequality used between a signal and it's transform. For example, position and impulsion.

If you prefer, I could have said "it is stable with quantification of the angular momentum" but it would be less general.

>>6649912
To understand the very simple Hydrogen atom, you have to understand what eigenfunctions of the Hamiltionian in spherical coordinates are (spherical harmonics).
And this is QM.

>position and impulsion are Fourier Transform of each other
I meant "position space wave function and the impulsion space wave function" of course.

>>6649910
Radiate?

>>6649922
I think so. Clearly I am not english.
I think what I called "impulsion" is in fact "momentum" in english.

>>6649861
>Atomic phyisics, not QM

What type of retard thinks that atoms are not quantum mechanical?

>>6649901
>I don't know that accelerating charges radiate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larmor_formula
http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath528/kmath528.htm

>>6649820
>stop virology research
>stop DNA research
>stop computer research
>stop OP's dick research

And nothing of value is lost. What happens at the smallest scale of viruses/dna/bits/op's dick doesn't affect us because (surprise!) we are much larger than [].

>>6649909

Can anyone recommend some good films like this set? I really enjoyed these. I found the Chaos one and will watch it too.