/sci/ - Science & Math

>>6613977
Biology. Fuck that shit.

>>6613977
Computer Science

>>6613977
do formal sciences count?
much of math outside of analysis bores the crap out of me.
>inb42hard4u

political science

>>6614000
>>6613998
>computer science
>political science
>science
>SCIENCE

>>6614002
he_took_the_bait.webm

>>6613977
Meteorology, who the fuck wants to look at the same swirly clouds everyday?

>>6613977
chemistry for sure

or maybe material physics

>>6613977
protein biochemistry
electrochemistry

>>6614020
and by electrochemistry I atually mean physical chemistry

>>6613977
all science is boring

>>6614007
>>6614200
Fuck both of you. And if anybody shits on geology, there's going to be a fight.

>>6614000
>implying

Biology

geology (or statistics if that counts as science)
>>6614213
soz

>>6614254
You're doing this just to hurt me.

>>6613977
If you count social sciences as science ; gender study

theology

Like, literally, who the fuck cares?

All formal sciences

>hey let's study things that these made up rules imply
Fuck off nerd

>>6614279
i bet it's bretty tough when you are an atheist or not a pederast

chemistry

>>6614279
>theology
>science

>>6614273
rocks just arent interesting enough; the field is so... specific and dry.

Physics is reality, the universe, everything. Chemistry can make drugs and explosions. Biology is life which is pretty awe inspiring and beautiful. Geology is rocks.

>>6614287
Well, I like them, dammit.

>>6614287
Someone's gotta do it.

>>6614287
C...C...Chemistry can make drugs and explosions?
>sniffle

>>6614287

Not that guy, but you know that's not what we study right? I'm specifically a geomorphologist, I study landforms and make models of their formation.

Petrologists study the temperature, pressure, chemical interaction in a fluid state to determine igneous rock properties as well as secondary changes as a result of Metamorphic processes.

Sedimentary geologists/economic geologists study how to make lots of money.

It's a pretty varied field, actually. Don't know why people think it's just rocks.

>>6614329
Have you not seen Breaking Bad?

>>6614336
>Not that guy, but you know that's not what we study right? I'm specifically a geomorphologist, I study large rocks on top of a very large rock and make models of their formation.
>
>Petrologists study the temperature, pressure, chemical interaction of rocks in a fluid state to determine igneous rock properties as well as secondary rock changes as a result of Metamorphic processes of rocks.
>
>Sedimentary geologists/economic geologists study how to make lots of money from rocks.
>
>It's a pretty varied field, actually. Don't know why people think it's just rocks.
Pic related.

>>6614349

You could take a picture of literally anywhere and it would relate to geology.

>>6614355
Yes, but not every picture is of a pretty varied field.

Ecology. It's either laying down quadrats in the sleet or constructing vast, unwieldy mathematical models with less predictive power than an astrology column.

math

>>6613977
It's pretty funny because at school, I saw a poster advertising to join geology class. It said Geology isn't boring. Join geology now!

>>6613977
Mathematics. It's useful and important and great, but entertaining it is not.

>>6614687
How is it not fun? It's exciting like other sciences but without the mess and clean-up.

>>6614692
The mess is half the fun of science.

>>6613995
>>6614242
>>6614598

Fucking this.

>>6614282
What's a pederast, Walter?

Analytical chemistry...
I had one lab where I had to mesure the accuracy and precision of every single piece of liquid measuring device in my lab. It took four hours to complete the lab. I to mesure 1 mL ten times witch each device had to use a paper towel to pick up the vial and use a really accurate scale to figure out how much water was really in the container. I had to account for density of water, because the density of water is different at 23 degrees Celsius and 25 degrees. If i touched the vial it would screw up my measurements because my fingerprint had a mass to it. Ten measurements for micro pipets, graduwated cylinders (all sizes), beakers, Graduated pipettes, Volumetric pipettes (all sizes), syringes, and a few other things.
fifteen percent of the grade in that class was the quality of my figure captions.
I hated that class

>>6614281

> hey, these rules arise in nature and give us an intuitive understanding of 90% of all the shit that will ever matter.

>>6615663
> implying you can't get intuition without math
lol

Physics. That shit is unbearable. Everytime I actually get to the point where I think I know what I'm doing, I arrive at the test and don't know how to do anything.

>>6615660
>tfw have that next semester along with OChem 2

Fuck. And OChem has two labs per week.

>>6613977
"science" where we just kind of guess and don't really have a way of verifying the authenticity of our guesses.
Psychology, for example.

>>6613999
What's a formal science?

Geology. The study of Rocks...

>>6614023
>jesus christ this
>my interest in chemistry as a whole had almost been entirely wiped out before organic came and saved it

>>6615674
Organic chemistry lab is a lot of fun. All that you do is make stuff. It is also a lot less precise than basic cooking. There is something so satisfying about completing a multistep syntheses and having a beautiful clean HNMR. I have never heard of anyone who doesn't somewhat enjoy organic lab.
In anal chem make sure you get the standard solution you make during the first week correct or else your life will be hell.
Your life will suc

>>6615688
the study of formal systems.
math basically
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_science

>>6615685
wat - you mean the talking cure?

>>6614000

Physics

Maybe it gets better when you get farther in the major, but at the intro level it is the most boring shit on the fucking planet. All the other sciences have really cool shit, even at the intro level, but physics is just "here's what happens if you throw a ball in the air".

>>6615733
>It is also a lot less precise than basic cooking
What the fuck kind of "basic cooking" do you do? Souffles? With baking you can be lazy and sloppy as hell and still have everything come out perfectly fine. Meanwhile with chemistry, you go one degree over or lose a couple milligrams of reagent or move something too vigorously and you get some weird-ass abomination of a product that's basically the physical world itself giving you the middle finger.

I have a master's degree in Chemistry, and I would say Chemistry.

I far prefer reading about Biology and Physics.

>>6615841
unfortunately, we can't make intro physics any more interesting to the non-physical science students because you're so god damn bad at math. I tutor biology students in intro mechanics, and I understand why they don't like it, but whenever I show them a more interesting side of physics, they respond in two ways: "what?" or "I'll never have to use this."

Nuclear bombs are cool. If I tried explaining how they work, in principle, to an intro student, I'd first have to explain why fission produces radiation. Then later, what a plasma is, and how temperature is related to the motion of this expanding plasma. They just can't take it all in.

>>6615832
Fucking Halliday and Resnick

>>6615733

You must have had some easy labs.

>>6616787
What's with all the penguin references in the textbook

>>6616789
I agree with him. Organic lab is pretty basic. The only thing I had problems getting correctly the majority of the time was crystallization.

>>6616808

The vast majority could not handle Organic labs in any capacity, and less than 10% could be considered even remotely good at them. They were almost universally despised.

It took an average of 4 attempts across the class to successfully complete a coupling reaction (possibly Suzuki, I can't remember exactly) under inert conditions, with some just giving up after 6 failed attempts.

24 hours a week for two semesters of that shit was an experience I would likely not repeat for anything.

>>6613977
all sciences have interesting sections, but when it degrades to intellectual masturbation (riesel numbers for example) it becomes shit.

>>6616971
everything I did I did in one attempt
however, the shit I'm doing now in an actual research lab is not that nice

>>6616971
Hmmm that's interesting. Organic 1 or 2? Our lab was centered around A Microscale Approach to Organic Lab Techniques, Pavia, with a few extra additions from our lecture professor. We had 12 sections of the lab and I don't remember hearing about any major difficulties with any class.

>>6616779
>Nuclear bombs are cool. If I tried explaining how they work, in principle, to an intro student, I'd first have to explain why fission produces radiation. Then later, what a plasma is, and how temperature is related to the motion of this expanding plasma.
All of that is tested on the MCAT, actually, so if any pre-med told you they didn't need to know that, they're just a stupid pre-med, hence why they probably needed tutoring.

>>6617047
Never underestimate the ability of people to pass tests on material they don't actually understand.

>>6617032

Not American. The labs were written by the lecturers.

The major problem was that the sessions did not have enough time for everyone to finish, when accounting for queues for reagents and apparatus. This accentuated the differences in ability, as the most proficient would initially work faster and get to the front of every queue. What should have been a few minutes difference could be multiplied to over an hour by cumulative queuing times. Underhanded tactics like shaving a few minutes off heating times, stealing glassware, and preemptively taking reagents and hiding them so they could be used first made it even worse.

The demonstrators were also very reluctant and would only teach one person how to do something, and the knowledge was meant to trickle down through students teaching each other or copying what someone else had done. This resulted in those further back in the queue not only being behind, but also having the poorest quality of guidance.

I guess it wasn't seen as a major problem because most people would be of a similar ability, and thus it would work to their advantage enough of time, and they'd come out as average. Only a small number would perpetually suffer.

>>6614355
Sub-atomic particles?

>All these Biology and Geology posts.
;_;

Each science has its own interesting parts, but introductory physics is painful. Only introductory stuff though. Overall it's pretty interesting.

>>6613977
Chemistry. I don't mind the theory per se, the lab work just bores the shit out of me. I don't have the patience necessary to make all those precise measurements and so on.

>>6614287
they're not rocks marie

Geology. Fuck rocks

Geology is a lot more than just rocks. More accurate to say its a science of time and gradual (and occasionally not so gradual) change. It's an interpretive science, building off of physics, chemistry and biology, using those tools to solve a puzzle. Rocks are just a piece of the evidence analyzed.

cryptology if it counts. The actual formal stuff is some of the most boring stuff I have ever read.

>>6617021
This so much.

>>6615715
Don't worry, only the intelligent chemists enjoy the physical part.
>inb4 implying

>>6614355
gomen

>>6616801
I like penguins
okay
is that okay
geez mate

>>6619448
Pchem is really hard but its fun and important, we know

>>6617021
inb4 Brier numbers
>the applications!

>>6614349
Jesus Christ, Marie, they're minerals

>>6613977
feminist transwoman bigender quasisexual sciences

>>6613995
>>6614242
>>6614598
>>6614941
>implying discovering the inner workings of natural selection and evolution is boring
>implying the fact that every living thing is connected isn't fucking amazing

>>6620158

kinesiology

faggotology

>>6613977
Archaeology
Shit is literally spending all day in 120 degree weather hoping you find fossilized shit.

Bump
I'm interested in what /sci/ thinks

>>6620177
There, there. They just don't understand.

>>6620177
Yeah, the way our conciousness is linked with every other soul on the planet truly is fascinating. Then again, that's all quantum entanglement isn't it? So I guess that's not biology, it's physics.

>>6621997
I was referring to food webs and the importance of organism niches

>finding a discipline as large as biology or physics boring

I can understand if you find one facet of a discipline boring, but an entire subject? Unless of course you've got autism and thus hyper niche interests...

>>6621964
>muh hard science
>muh math

Pretty much sums up /sci/.

>>6620177
>biology major
>doesn't believe humans are animals

I've had this happen at least once

>>6614279
>like literally

>>6622490
epic shitbump bro

>>6622017
>/sci/
>not autistic
>not extremely narrow interests

>>6614287
>Only caring about chemistry for muh drugs and boom boom

opinion disregarded

Is Meteorology fun?
I need to know how bad I should feel for not pursuing my passion and instead going for something "safer"

>>6614287

Psychology
>Look at all my categories I can create that don't matter

Neuroscience is the only practical interpretation of the brain.