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>when people say pi is infinite and contains every single iteration possible
Am I the only one who finds two bullshits?
>pi is infinite
pi isn't infinite, it's an irrational number meaning it can't be finitely represented in any integer base without the use of functions.
>pi is special because it contains every iteration of numbers
This doesn't make it special at all, this is a property of all irrational numbers, so <span class="math">\sqrt2[/spoiler] also has this property.

tl;dr the decimal representation of pi contains no special properties.

>> No.6599770

>>6599766
> this is a property of all irrational numbers
You are being retarded.

The irrational 0.404004000400004000004... for example

>> No.6599774

>>6599766
good argument. i'm convinced.

>> No.6599777

>>6599766
It isn't known if pi does contain all iterations.

Only a few numbers are known to have this property. Champernowne's constant, for example.

It's suspected pi has this property though, as almost all real numbers do.

>> No.6599779

>>6599766
>This doesn't make it special at all, this is a property of all irrational numbers
Statements like this make me wish there was a word which meant 'false', 'wrong', 'disprovable' and 'retarded' all at once.

>> No.6599783

>>6599779
derp?

>> No.6599788

>>6599779
it's called kek a reply so dumb you just reply with mockery.

>> No.6599795

>>6599779
I'd go with <faggotry intensifies>

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6599846

>>6599779
>>6599783
>>6599788
>>6599795

you can also add a reaction picture

>> No.6599869

>this is a property of all irrational numbers
For anyone who's curious about the proper term for this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_number

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6599873

>>6599777
Your number has been proven to contain both dubs and trips

>> No.6599875

Pi is irrational because it is infinitely rational

>> No.6599877

>>6599869

absolutely not
i know the french word for this is "nombre univers", but i can't find the english translation

>> No.6599944

>this is a property of all irrational numbers

It's actually not. There are irrational numbers like .101001000100001000001... which is irrational, but clearly does not contain every possible number combination. The statement that an irrational number contains every possible combination of numbers ever is one that requires proof.

>> No.6599957

>>6599877
>i can't find the english translation
Hint: it's in the post you're replying to.

>> No.6599969

>>6599766
> pi contains every iteration of numbers

every FINITE iteration: it does not contain an infinite sequence of zeroes, because then it would be rational.

>> No.6599974

>>6599873
Bateman's constant contains all known dubs, trips, quads, etc. It is a Louisville number and is Normal.

>> No.6599975

>>6599969
>every FINITE iteration
It's only believed it does, faggot. No one has proved it is a Normal number.

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>>6599766

It's just a property of infinity.

Given an varying, infinite stream of numbers and rules to decode it, you can claim it contains all information.

It's basically saying the set of all possible words in every possible combination contains all the information that can be transmitted by them.

It's just a tautology with some unusual steps to make it look deep.

>> No.6600144

>>6599770
Thats a Louieville number, its trancendental.

>> No.6600355

>>6600144
And all transcendental numbers are irrational, so it's still a valid statement.