/sci/ - Science & Math

>>6510744

lol

>>6510744
>I, for all intents and purposes believe he genuinely does see's these 'auras' of colors around people.
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>inb4 he's crazy etc etc

No, you're just stupid for believing that shit. He's just fucking with you or trying to scam you somehow down the road.

>>6510744
>Now what im wondering is what would be the scientific reason for this?
The scientific reason is that we don't know how the brain works

> what would be his diagnosis?
If he's actually seeing things I believe it's a form of psychosis

>Has research been done into this?
Absolutely. Google it, they've done tests with "psychics" to see if there was any statistical significance to their premonition powers. I remember seeing one where they would try to predict the outcome of a coin toss they couldn't see.

They were about 50% right.

>>6510747
>trying to scam me

no.

Really though, coming from a person who knows him rather well and has done for a while, he has absolutely no reason to be lying. He's explained it and I genuenily believe he sees these colours. I dont believe he sees 'auras' I just wanna know whats going on in his mind. Other than this he's totally sane

>>6510748
>If he's actually seeing things I believe it's a form of psychosis

this is interesting because he smokes a lot of weed and has done for about 3 years now.

If he sees colours around people it's a hallucination, since the colours are not actually there.
Or it might be a form of synesthaesia where he perceives his feelings about someone as a colour.

>>6510744
>>x

>>6510754
well, then he's just fucking with you.

if you are asking for us to confirm this shit for you, ain't gonna happen. you should really go to >>>/x/ for support.

>>6510744

Put his ass to some good use. He'd be great for interpreting data in the Atmospheric sciences.

>>6510758
Last I checked THC doesn't cause psychosis. Though if you smoke a lot as a teenager it does inhibit brain growth.

Your friend might actually be retarded.

>>6510764
Im not asking you to confirm. Im asking if you have information on such a condition.

Try hiding behind a rock or something. If he really can see auras he should be able to see your aura even when your body is not visible.

Also what we perceive is a highly manipulated form of external signals, so it's not always a mirror of reality. There's symptoms like synesthesia where modalities intertwine with concepts to affect your perception.

>>6510837

That's a good idea, go to a building with a few pillars and test him to see how often he guesses which one you're behind. I gaurantee how he will come up with some bullshit on how he has to see your body or the pillars block 'energy' or some shit

>>6510760
>it might be a form of synesthaesia where he perceives his feelings about someone as a colour.

I've got synesthaesia known people who were "orange" or "green" before, as in their personality or voice. That doesn't sound too far off.

I have a friend who claims he can read auras. But he only does it to pick up gullible women in bars.

>>6510852
and have known*

Sorry

>>6510775
The condition is called "Being a fucking dumbass.", allot of people have it.

>>6510772
Weed can trigger psychosis.

>>6510890
so you think all these people are just lying?

Are you the same type of person that doesn't believe in lucid dreaming because you havent experienced it yourself?

Or maybe one of these people who doesn't believe in the female orgasm

Come the fuck on /sci/, how are you trolled so easily?

>>6510954
We can't all spot trolling auras like you.

>>6510954
OP here. Not trolling

>>6510744
He's either crazy or purposely lying to you.
If it's the former, stop being friends with him.
If it's the latter, ask yourself why he's lying to you, then stop being friends with him.

There isn't one.

>>6510744
I don't think you're crazy or that he's lying. You're just probably gullible.
I think the seeing auras might be related to synaesthesia.
From the way someone looks you tend to infer a certain personality type. Synaesthesia may give life to this by associate the feeling he gets when he sees someone with colors. If he projects the colors onto people themselves, he may see an "aura".
Makes me wonder myself... Ask if what color is letter a or the number one and what their personalities are like. I'm curious what he'd say.

>>6510760
>>6510852
I have synesthesia too, and I strongly associate some people with specific colors. But really, that's it - that's the extent of it.

OP, your friend possibly also has synesthesia, but there's nothing mystical or really even remarkable (or particularly useful) about it. Don't listen to him prattle on about spiritual energies and cosmic whatnot - it's bullshit.

>>6510744
have goku beat him up for you

>>6510772
It won't by itself, but it most certainly trigger psychosis in an individual with a predisposition.

>>6510850
That's cool, but OP isn't trying to "disprove" him. He's wondering what would make him see these "auras" around people. Proving that they aren't actually auras doesn't give any insight into the question OP is asking, which is what is the real underlying cause.

>>6510744
Just leave the Internet

>what would be his diagnosis?

If he is strongly associating colors with people he may well have synesthesia. Does he claim to have similar experiences with numbers, letters and or musical tones?

>>6510748
> they were about 50% right

r u avin a giggle m8?

>>6511428
>He's wondering what would make him see these "auras" around people

IIRC, seeing auras is just teaching your brain to understand things around us better, it's like learning a new language. But then again OP did claim he did nothing but smoke weed, so he might just associate people with colours and he just claims it's auras because for him personally, there's no other reasonable explanation.

There's been no psychic actually able to be proven psychic in a scientific setting. There's even been rewards for $1m, if anyone could just prove their abilities.

>>6512763
>There's even been rewards for $1m, if anyone could just prove their abilities.

Nope. All bullshit. Doesn't exist.

>>6512763
We no psychics arent real. He know his friend isnt psychic.

Read the thread before contributing

>tfw you used to totally believe in things like chakras and auras

>>6512831
>putting faith in science

>anyday

Pleb.

>>6512800

I hate when people do shit like this. Like I want to read about 30-40 posts before replying to the OP. Fuck right off.

I've met with a lady that makes ridiculously accurate predictions.

I mean, I was shocked that I myself am the sort of person that knows there must be some rational explanation, and that the human mind is easy to fool.

But I honestly can't find an explanation for some of what she's shown me.
I know it bothers a lot of people here to make these sorts of claims, but just talking from my own personal experience.

>>6512831
Why?

>>6512871

not him, but I believe because it's a facet of my religion.

it's not that I believe these are scientifically sound ideas.

Do a little research into Kirlian photography.

Even if the Chakra test is just see if you are emotionally balanced I consider it to be a great mental diagnostic tool: http://www.eclecticenergies.com/chakras/chakratest.php

Only daily practice of Asanas and Sadhanas, in other words Kundalini or intensive Hatha yoga will yield an insight into the Nadi's and seven "vessels" or glands as the Chinese call them.

>>6510744
>Now what im wondering is what would be the scientific reason for this? what would be his diagnosis? Has research been done into this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synethesia
is the most charitable interpretation I can offer since you have ruled out the more likely paths of discourse.

>>6512879
funny how they never publish a complete set of these, taken by different individuals as part of a double blind trial.

>>6510744
MODS MODS MODS
>>>/x/
MODS MODS MODS
>>>/x/
FUCK YOU AND YOUR MOTHER OP

>>6512880
I don't think Kirlian photography let's you see auras, but I think it is showing something that is normally not visible to the physical human eye.

>>6512869
I try to never assume psychic phenomenon is true, but just like a placebo affect having an avid resistance to it could yield it null.

>>6512896
you are stupid,pls kill yourself

>>6510744
>I, for all intents and purposes believe he genuinely does see's these 'auras' of colours around people.
>Now what im wondering is what would be the scientific reason for this?

What the hell? You can't claim that something which hasn't been tested is true, and then ask for scientific justification for it.

>>6510744
Some form of synesthesia?

Hey OP, if you're still here I think I know what's going on.

>auras
lol gr8 b8

>>6513038
He's asking what kind of psychological ailment causes delusion.

Unfortunately, OP, no ailments are required. Like cultures which honestly believe they gain abilities through cannibalism, or that they are restored by faith healing, you need nothing but positive reinforcement of the thought.

>What would be his diagnosis?

Well I'm not a doctor, but we better euthanize him anyway.

It's well known that entering deep states of concentration, aka Jhanas, can give meditators psychic abilities also known as "Siddhis". This is much easier said than done and can take decades of practice. Even things like levitation have been observed in a controlled environment, but scientists couldn't come up with an explanation for these apparent miracles and so it was ignored by the scientific community. A google search can give you a lot of info if you're genuinely interested. Monks living in Tibet and around the Himalayas are well aware of these phenomena, they just don't like to talk about it or show off because it's very easy for someone's ego to get involved and cloud their judgement, which is the absolute opposite of their teachings. For them it's nothing but a distraction.

>>6510744
Isn't it obvious, OP? He has a sixth sense, just like any other psychic, that allows him to see the auras to which most of us aren't sensitive.

Want the scientific explanation? It's a simple gene mutation (evolution is an ongoing process, dummy).

I and a few friends have independently seen auras....

we were all on LSD at the time

I've heard god talk to me too,

I took half a gram of ketamine, then went into a partial/full k hole,

My inner voice was detatched from my self...so when I was thinking thoughts they didn't feel like they were mine

but obviously i could control it and was aware it was just my inner thoughts because I started making the voice say stupid stuff like lololol faggot

was trippy as hell but fun, I even made it say in a cool deep god voice "anon you must go to the mountain"

Year later I read that drugs like lsd/ketamine/pcp can induce schitzophrenic symptoms/psychosis

also >tfw you travel and remote view the universe while tripping balls on ketamine

>>6510744
My mother has always been a fan of this sort of thing to the point where she's certified in an awful lot of junk; Pranic healing, tarot cards, so on so forth.

It's always been difficult to explain away the tarot cards because jesus christ they could be accurate at times. Best explanation I can give is that she's my mother and she knows me, this factors into her interpretation of the cards either consciously or subconsciously. Yes, there is an extraordinary amount of interpretation there, there are no set rules really.


That being said, even she has come across stuff she says is bullshit. A few years ago, when she was charging for healing peoples auras (she had enough sense not to tell people to drop their meds though, praise the various gods) she met a person who was "allergic to electricity". One session of aura voodoo and and the cottage dwelling luddite was cured.

Is there something to it? I don't know, I personally believe it all goes on subconscious body language that we're not very good at picking up consciously and the various schools of magic use this to back up their claims.
Could there be some kind of magic particle we haven't discovered and is responsible for some sort of field around living things? Possible but not likely.

>>6510744
damage to the visual cortex.
if you truly believe you have a psychic ability you most likely have an undiagnosed mental illness.

>>6513715
>if you truly believe you have a psychic ability you most likely have an undiagnosed mental illness
this is where you lost all credibility
being dumb and gullible isnt a mental illness
and there's absolutely no reason to insult someone because he sees fairies and shit

>>6513704
If you really think about it, tarot card readings are essentially a matter of taking a list of symbols with very broad definitions, and then making sense of those symbols in relation to a context (the person you're "reading" and what you know about them and their life, whether that's a little or a lot.)
You're using your human brain to make sense of something within a fairly loose set of rules.
Of course it's always going to seem startlingly accurate; you're MAKING it be accurate.

You could do it with a scrabble set too, but that wouldn't make it supernatural.

>>6513829
Yeah, exactly what I was getting at. It becomes easier still when a close relation is doing the "reading"