/sci/ - Science & Math

ur a faget

>I believe global warming is real, man-made, and will eventually have devastating consequences for humanity. I also oppose efforts to fight it, for two reasons.

1. I'm 12 years old and trying to be edgy
2. I'm genuinely this retarded and don't dream that we become and interplanetary species

3/10 made me reply

>>6511565

Holy shit that illusion is cool, I've never seen one like it.

If you squint and and nearly close your eyes, you can see all 4 circles perfectly.

>>6511565
+1

>>6511575
>If you squint and and nearly close your eyes, you can see all 4 circles perfectly.
neato

>>6511569
If OP is 12, then you must be 3. Great job producing a more immature post than him.

>fossil fuels will continue to be the cheapest form of energy

no, especially not when you weight for health costs.

>>6511565
>devastating consequences
>worst effects
>doomed failure
that's not /sci/

A lot of evidence is pointing towards the effects of man made climate change being the reason for the Earth's 6th Mass Extinction event.

Strengthened Tsunamis and Hurricanes are only a logistical problem (displacing hundreds of millions of people to more secure climates), the crux of these 'devastating consequences' you speak of i believe will be the mass extinction of species, genus and families.

I'm only self taught on ecology, but from what I've learned I don't think natural selection has enough time to adapt most non-tropical species for the changes they're going to experience. Species specifically adept to living in a specific region like emperor penguins and polar bears are driven by instinct that has been programmed by natural climate change. If these changes had occurred naturally and usually more slowly and gradual, the polar bears and such could adapt by evolution as they are given thousands of generations to prepare for the changes. Our impact on climate change is far too sudden for natural selection to save more specialized species.

>>/pol/

>Second, any effort to seriously curb emissions is doomed to failure.
It's not like you could just trivially put a tax on fossil fuels that would go up slowly every year.
It's not like that wouldn't make them to not be the cheapest form of energy
Or you could just subsidize clean energy

Besides fossils are only cheap in the first place because they outsource most of their costs to the local community and community in large. Polluting the air/river/ground is free in almost everywhere and cleaning up is left to the tax players in the end creating hidden outsourced costs. Making power companies pay fro the environmental effects would only be fair in the first place

also most likely >>>/pol/ soon

>>6511565

It is really man-made. Men tampered with the temperatures.

Measured temperatures in blue. Reported temperatures in red. Changes documented at the NOAA website, see their "stepwise differences" (temperature changes):
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/ushcn/ts.ushcn_anom25_diffs_pg.gif

>>6511565

Back in 1989, scientists said there was no significant global warming for 100 years!

This fits well with the blue curve in:
>>6512795
Does not fit well with the changed temps given in the red curve of
>>6512795

>>6512798
>1980s science
please anon, that's before we even had genetics

>>6512795
>Men tampered with the temperatures.
Keep repeating that without giving people a chance to read the motivation behind such a offset.

No, must be evil. Context is unhelpful to the "skeptic".

>>6512808
>No thermometers in 1989
The structure of DNA was discovered in 1953

>>6512798
>Back in 1989, scientists said there was no significant global warming for 100 years!

But thats not true retard.
Oh and btw. Why didn't you highlight this part of the article:
>It is based on temperature and precipitation readings taken at weather stations around the country from 1895 to 1987
>weather stations around the country
>country

Global warming....country

>>6514762

Just like the temps of the COUNTRY
>>6512795
retard.

>>6511565
>market forces
i mean those market forces are the product of human agents and to the extent they optimize one way or the other it's because of what the agents value

you don't lose culpability by saying that "the market did it"

>>6514762

Global data tampering, see attached.
All temp data changes increase the rate of warming. Just a coincidence?

Documented here:
pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1999/1999_Hansen_etal_1.pdf
pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1981/1981_Hansen_etal_1.pdf
Data.GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: Analysis Graphs and Plots

>>6511565
> Barring some miraculous technological breakthrough, fossil fuels will continue to be the cheapest form of energy, and market forces are far more powerful than humanity's concern for its own (somewhat distant) future.

And how do you suppose fossil fuel will continue to be the cheapest when we've only got enough oil for another 40 years or so? As it becomes more scarce its price will shoot up and eventually, there will come a point when getting the same amount of energy costs less by other means, namely solar. I think Ray Kurtzweil predicted it would take another 15 years, but don't quote me on that.

why not develop technology to fix the environment?

terraforming technology, i mean we have to start somewhere - why not focus on something relatively minor like reversing the damage on our planet?

>>6514777
>Global data tampering
>I can tell from some of the pixels and from
>seeing quite a few tamperings in my time

This is already an ongoing project.

>>6514953
>implying humans would wilfully destroy the environment for no other reasons other than shits and giggles
You're stupid.

You're really stupid.

Like, /b/tard levels of stupid.

Those lines are aircraft jet exhausts, chances are there's an airbase nearby that's causing that. The reason the military is denying it is specifically because it's not in the habit of disclosing its bases locations.

>>6515008
Honestly, I think even /b/ is smarter than /x/.

And that's a REALLY low bar to duck.

why don't we fuck off to Mars?

>>6515052
Cohaagen won't let the people have air.

>>6515101
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