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I'm extremely interested in tasks that have benefits for the brain such as improving information processing ability, speed, bimanual motor acquisition (eg piano), pattern identification etc.

I've read in publications that making connections between the macro-scale regions of the brain is key to increasing information processing ability, but what exactly can a person do to work towards this?

What are things found in research to be *over-archingly beneficial*? What I mean by that is practicing some task makes/strengthens connections that improve overall brain function (towards any specific thing such as info processing) and thinking ability.

Some side notes: I've noticed that people who read *a lot* are able to synthesize information very quickly from all sorts of different angles. I've also noticed that people who talk all day with different people, as part of there work, have great mental agility.

discuss

>> No.6477531

>>6477528
their* work

>> No.6477532

Learning a language. Practicing German makes my head tingle.

>> No.6478707

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>> No.6480868

bumpan

>> No.6480890

Yoga, breathing exercises, meditation, sex, love, intimate connection with another, alignment of values/words/actions, true enthusiasm, interest, curiosity, physical exertion - walking for 1/2 hour, 5 miles a day, running for at least 15 minutes at pulse over 80% of max.

In short, think more physical / emotional activity. Getting outside your "comfort zone", learning new skills. Cultivating abilities, for example, practicing and learning mathematics and propositional logic.Doing or making things that can produce a synergy of action -> reaction, risk and reward.

All of these things are "research vetted". They did the hard work to prove what many including the ancients knew and applied. Now its your turn.

>> No.6480914

Sorry, can you clarify what you mean by "what many including the ancients knew and applied"? Emotional activity is not exactly essential to neuroplasticity as long as it is stable or not detrimental.

>> No.6480926

>>6480890
Some of this sounds like new-age hogwash.

Evidence for meditation benefits is suggestive, but hardly conclusive.

I'm looking for science-based, contemporary findings.

>> No.6480935

>>6480926
I agree. What things have you found that work?
I have read some texts on interpreters that have been found to have exceptional working memory. Blind people have great memory and sensory perception (except for sight) because of their constant attention to habitual review and the environment.
These are all things we can do. The brain is highly plastic, and certain jobs and activities do increase some of the traits you are looking for. The question to answer is: What are the most cost effective methods?

>> No.6480991

>>6480926
Its scientifically proven that meditation increases grey matter in the brain. Whether thats beneficial I dunno but id imagine so

>> No.6481006

>>6480991
>>6480935
brb 2 hrs, have class

>> No.6481024

There is no good evidence for anyway to increase g (general intelligence). There are some known ways to decrease it however... (e.g. lead poisoning).

>> No.6481054

consume delicious nootropics

>> No.6481303

>>6480935
>What things have you found that work?
Not much, yet. That's why I made this thread: to discover these methods.

>>6481024
I don't really mean methods of increasing g, but just things (that are backed by science) that are shown to do what I've mentioned in the OP. Like how bookworms are very skilled at rapidly synthesizing info, etc.

I've recently read in a publication that conflicting bimanual tasks do something (I forget what exactly) to exercise "higher-order" motor control.

>> No.6481318

>>6481303
Going on what you're asking I guess just participating in general intellectual activities will make you better at those activities.

Which is basically what you're asking.

All those brain training games are apparently scientifically proven to improve brain function and performance but they're just so dull. Makes me feel like im back in school with annoying teacher who teaches by rote

>> No.6481377

There are no studies that scientifically prove such things.

>> No.6481387

>>6481318
>All those brain training games are apparently scientifically proven to improve brain function and performance
Really? Like Lumosity? I thought that Lumosity was based on shaky science and that the benefits are inconclusive.

Last time I read about that was about a year ago, so the science may have caught up. Can you/anyone confirm/deny that something like Lumosity is factually beneficial to the brain and process of thinking?

>>6481377
Maybe not conclusive proof, but suggestive evidence. Such as: http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v13/n8/full/nn.2596.html

>> No.6481422

>>6481318
>>6481387

Brain training games will not work. It has already been disputed. Transferrable skills are not trained.

The article you posted is about actual science related to detailed chemicals. The research on brain training is nowhere near close.

>> No.6481466

>>6481422
>Brain training games will not work. It has already been disputed.
This is good to know; I thought that was all BS anyway.

Are there any known tasks that improve any discreet capabilities in the brain that may be applicable/beneficial when doing something else?

For instance, does becoming skilled at Tetris benefit a person outside of playing Tetris? Maybe pattern recognition or something? The same question goes for anything like this: Chess, Rubix Cube, Piano (bimanual tasks), etc.
I'm looking for anything that has cognitive benefits outside of the particular, specific task itself.

>> No.6481471

>>6481466
Rubik's Cube. Oops.

>> No.6481527

>>6481466
No, as the people use memory and task specific routines to become more skilled. It does not transfer. Only situations that challenge a person's core habits can produce results. You have already mentioned learning a language (for most people it activates a lot of the left hemisphere). I mentioned interpreters (huge use of attention, which can be trained). Then there are also taxi cab drivers in London(the huge amount of training actually increases hippocampus size, which leads to memory benefits).

You need to do more research. Only come on /sci/ to ask specific questions. General questions will just bring about of bullshit, both from you and other readers.

>> No.6481537

>>6481527
>Only come on /sci/ to ask specific questions. General questions will just bring about of bullshit, both from you and other readers.
>telling me what to do
fuck off, nigger. i'm literally going to do whatever i want.

>implying i'm going to heed your shit tier advice.
laughinggirls.7z

>> No.6481659

>>6481422
There is dual n back game and its scientificly proven. Try that

>> No.6481671

>>6481659
"Two studies published in 2012 failed to reproduce the effect of dual n-back training on fluid intelligence. These studies found that the effects of training did not transfer to any other cognitive ability tests.[10][11]"

>> No.6482350

>>6481671
Adding numbers in parentheses in the end of a text piece won't make it more factual.

>> No.6482361

play a fast pace game, makes you better at making decisions

>> No.6482367

While on this topic, I'd like to touch upon the issue of attention/concentration improving, which seems to me to be the single most important aspect of the human mind that both can and should be strengthen on the neurological level. What would you say is the best way to higher your observational skills (scattered attention I believe it's called) and concentration ability (point attention?..). What related literature is recommended in general on the subject of neurological brain plasticity - namely, growth of the extensively used regions, as a microevolutional process.

>> No.6482418

Anyone?

>> No.6482512

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>> No.6482580
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6482580

wow, so

-starcraft
-piano
-reading a lot of books
-meditation
-healthy diet
-nootropics
-cardio
-socializing

=genius level brain?

>> No.6482589

>>6482580

srsly? traun? inz

>> No.6482593

>>6482580
Just don't listen to the ordinaries.

>> No.6483029

>>6482350
are you seriously that retarded?

>>6482367
interested in this as well

>>6482580
topkek

>> No.6483361

>>6481318
>All those brain training games are apparently scientifically proven to improve brain function and performance but they're just so dull. Makes me feel like im back in school with annoying teacher who teaches by rote

They improve g for a limited time. Theoretically, one could continue to play them for their entire life and have an observable increase in g that would look natural. But it has been shown that "brain games" and other learning programs geared toward improving g have increasingly lower results as time goes on.

>> No.6483366

>>6483361
[citation needed]

>> No.6483535

I think playing chess helps. Thinking hard about several moves ahead every turn gets me all fuzzed up in le head

>> No.6483687

>>6483361
There is pretty much no evidence of that.

Recently we did a meta-analysis of gains from compensatory education. The gains are strongly antiJensen effects, r with g-loadings ≈ -.8.

It's currently in review in Intelligence.