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6408670 No.6408670 [Reply] [Original]

how complex and advanced would super god-tier alien mathematics/science be?

>> No.6408671

triple integrals

>> No.6408678

>as if aliens would be advanced enough to have science/math

>> No.6408686

>implying they would even use math
We are 1% different from apes. Imagine aliens that are 1% different from us in the direction we are from apes. To the aliens we would look like idiots. Their toddlers would be doing QM and metamath because it's intuitive to them

>> No.6408695

>>6408686

Actually there's a better chance that aliens would be primordial slime, just like the earth was for millions of years.

Why do people always jump to the conclusion that ET life would be super intelligent?

>> No.6408702

>>6408695
Because it's got to happen one time or another. There are more planets than there are stars and there are more stars than there are grains of sand on Earth

>> No.6408701

>>6408695
grays,annunaki,reptilians etc.

>> No.6408703

>>6408686
For everyone to learn lots of math is really inefficient. They would probably have a few mathematicians like we do who solve problems and then filter the results to the rest of the population.

>> No.6408708

>>6408702

but until we receive proof of et life, it's assumed to not exist

>> No.6408713

>>6408701
>>>/x/

>>6408670
This is thread is pointless, it's like asking if all aliens are more advanced than us.
The answer is some would be, some would not.

>> No.6408716

>>6408713
he said 'god-tier aliens'

>> No.6408717

>>6408716

in order for there to be 'god tier aliens', there must first be aliens

get your head out of your ass

>> No.6408720

Suppose we digitalize our brains and somehow beat entropy to become immortal, would we ever reach a point where math stops being interesting?
I mean at some point you would spend billions of years just to formulate a problem. Would our uploaded minds still get excited for quadrillion page proofs or would math be dead? At some point the only interesting problems people still try to solve are these that are unsolvable and impossible to prove unsolvable. Everything else would be solved by brute force sooner or later.

>> No.6408719

>>6408708

no, dumbass. until we receive proof, we remain agnostic. absence of evidence is not evidcence of absence. we can't say for sure until we've explored every planet in the universe.

>> No.6408727

>>6408719

so then we stay away from hypothetical situations that have no real bearing on our current existence?

>> No.6408729

>>6408720
Considering that finding something interesting is just a chemical process, we can induce that artificially to anything, so if we want, we can make it interesting forever.

>> No.6408728

>>6408702
Actually the quote goes that there are more stars in the galaxy than there are stars on Earth.

>> No.6408731

The real question is:

Which equivalent form of the Riemann hypothesis would they consider most important and have hence proven?

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6408732

>>6408671
>mfw triple integrals

>> No.6408737

>>6408671

We already have triple integrals. Multi-dimensional calculus. I took it in college. It wasn't that difficult.

>> No.6408741

>>6408737
dude are you like a fucking genius or something? this literally puts you in the 300+ IQ range

>> No.6408808

>>6408741
Nah. It's more like 115IQ with a good upbringing, 140+ without.

>> No.6408818

>>6408737
>he took beyond Ph.D level cutting edge research in college
>didn't find it difficult
Holy fucking shit.

What college is this? Holy shit man.

>> No.6408822

>>6408695
Because they got here from a distant planet, from that we come to the idea they figured out interstellar travel.

>> No.6408823

>>6408737
Obvious troll is obvious.

>> No.6409212

bump because I actually want to know

>> No.6409223

>>6408729
>we can induce that artificially to anything
Yes, but we can also make us find gender studies interesting. I mean assuming we don't change the basic perception of what is interesting to humans.

>> No.6409324

If you had any clue what math is, you'd know it's the same regardless of the thinker. No math is more complicated, but there may be more theorems.

>> No.6409334

>>6409324
my axioms are different than your axioms

>> No.6409337

Can we assume that if life grew up in the quantum world their math would be different than ours? Even counting something, in a world like that, would not be what counting his here.

>> No.6409354

>tfw axiom of no gf

>> No.6409373

>>6409324
There are three levels of understanding:
1. No understanding.
2. You.
3. Someone that actually knows what they are talking about.
The axioms of mathematics are invented. Their consequence are discovered.
They could have a completely different axiomatic system than us

>> No.6411509

quadruple integrals

>> No.6411545

A banana

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6411560

>>6408670
I il be a civilization comprised only of Rob Fords. They would born in small sizes, about 200 pounds Rob Fords. They then grow up to become adult Rob Fords, in the 600+ pounds range. Some pregnant females have been reported to hit the 1000 pounds mark.

Their mathematics consist only of drug related problems. For example, they probably have the most precise balances in the universe to make sure that all the Rob Fords of Ford Nation get their Daily dose of Crack, without which they would die in a matter of hours.

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6411659

It's probably a lot like this

>> No.6413499

>>6411659
top kek

>> No.6413509

>>6409373
But they would still presumably be constrained by the Church-Turing Thesis which means we could still "do" their math.

>>6408670
So in that sense, OP, not any more complex or advanced.

>> No.6413559

i don't even think we can analytically solve the boltzmann transport equation and that shits from the 1800s

>> No.6413982

>>6408818
I learned it first year in Chalmers. Why are you acting as if it's superhard?

>> No.6415635

You put on a "thinking cap" and magi... "sufficiently advanced technologically" know everything instantly.