/sci/ - Science & Math

No, we ARE in community college.

>>6387583

No /sci/ is obviously filled with people from Caltech, MIT and Cornell.

Troll harder, nigger. I know everything that I claim to know and am probably smarter than you. Wanna know why? You didn't go to MIT or Stanford. Prove me wrong or stay Internet smart.

Many of us may be fake and pretentious, but at least we are smarter than your average anon - or American for that matter.

My friend and I (EECS and physics major respectively) are at UC Berkeley and we come here for physics help all the time. Not an uber-tier college, but the fact that we're able to get plenty of help on our psets means there's tons of smart people here.

>>6387594


It's probably just one or two guys that are total social rejects in their respective campuses.

>>6387598
So the opposite of what OP thinks. But I know plenty of people who have lives and answer hw questions on /sci/, stackoverflow, quora, etc in their spare time just to stay sharp.

>>6387583
As a grad student in his mid-20's, this place is a hellhole of pretentiousness and highschool/college students trying desperately to prove how smart they are because that's all they got going for them.

I can't even attempt to discuss my research on here because no one would understand it/have anything to contribute. Every topic is high school or college class material you learn. Few people here have read enough papers to have a grasp at what the current fields of research are like.

>>6387594

Berkeley is a great school, well at least a great graduate school for math.

Yes. Yes it is.

>>6387610

What do you research? Or, at least, what area?

>>6387610
What's your research?

(Physics graduate student here)

> this place is a hellhole of pretentiousness
>I can't even attempt to discuss my research on here because no one would understand it

sounds like you fit right in

Well I go to college
But I don't come here much
Honestly I think I'm "growing out" of this place as I spend most of my internet time on reddit

>>6387634
>>6387637

Molecular biology with a touch of pharmacology.

The two main projects are discovering the underlying mechanism of a splicing disease and figuring out the target of several compounds we've found to correct the splicing defect while also being in the process of drug discovery.

It's a rare disease and we are the biggest lab working on it right now.

TFT transistors here!

>>6387590
no
NO

>>6387687
lol out loud

>>6387594
holy shit I go to berkeley too
except I stopped getting help from /sci/ years ago....=/

Unless /sci/ has some mechanical engineers

>>6387594
also, like HW1 problems for me, are like finals at other schools

>>6387590
Wow.. Now that's really hard

>>6387698
whee, go bears...

>>6387695
>Unless /sci/ has some mechanical engineers
Here and there.

>>6387695
>>6387711
and even then, non mechanical engineers can help some times (self teaching, electives etc)

>>6387714
well, i mean unless you guys are knowledgeable in:
-circuit theory
-feedback controls
-fluid mechanics
-heat transfer
-materials
-manufacturing
-Matlab

Though for a few of those, people could probably help somewhat

>>6387717
not mechanical engineer, but I'm knowledgeable in
-circuit theory
-feedback controles
-fluid mechanics
-heat transfer
-matlab
for the two others, I only have (probably insufficient) basic notions.
should be enough!

>>6387722
well right now, probably the only thing I will need help with is fluids and matlab
but that's good to know that people could help out

I don't see why I should want to pretend that I know more then I really do. I just like to hang out on boards with people smarter then me. That way I can learn things, sometimes, if I'm not too lazy to do a little investigating on my own.

And, yes, I dropped out of community college. Finances and such. Later I dropped back in to community college, completed that and later matriculated to a more prestigious university. But that's getting off topic.

While an undergrad, I had a composition teacher who said that I should write something every time I read something. So occasionally I post a bit of info, nonsense, sarcasm, or an attempt at humor. Blame my professor.

>>6387695
I'm a MechE.

/sci/ isn't for hw help.

>>6387738
yeah that's what my experience has been
just for occasionally interesting discussions that might be a bit smarter than average (for 4chan)

>>6387646
How much do you think genomic architecture affects splicing fidelity compared to s.r.e's, et al.? Why not just TAL that shit. Oh yeh, cures don't generate enough dough.

Yes

>>6387588

One of these things is not like the other...

>>6387687

Metal oxide? Or shitty organic electronics? Or something else?

Yes.

mfw I'm a 3rd year biology dropout
mfw I go to reddit if I want to pretend to know more than I do
mfw it works errytime
yfw I have no face

>>6387583
Mechanical engineering master race reporting in.

>>6387583
yep, just got kicked out of my uni last semester, doomed to be some mediocre mechanical engineer technician or electrician.
Whats the point, even if I get back into school I'm never going to get into grad school and get into anything really interesting or cutting edge.

>>6387594

>UC Berkeley
>not an uber-tier college

U wot m8?

>>6388323

why if you go back you will never get into grad school?

>>6388334
pathetic grades, even if I get all A's its unlikely I'll get a GPA that is competitive, maybe if I take lots of extra classes but still I do have an academic probation on my record with will defiantly raise some eyebrows.

Studied molecular biology and chemistry in undergrad, took a few years off. Heading back to grad school in the fall to start a PhD in biochemistry. IMO, there's a strong cohort of molecular/cell biologists and organic chemists/biochemists on /sci/.

>>6388285

>mfw I go to reddit if I want to pretend to know more than I do

Yup, sounds like you fit right in.

>>6388132
Please explain. They're all ivy league research universities.
>Canadian so dunno what the fuck I'm talking about

>>6388373

Caltech and MIT are not Ivy League, Cornell is.

But I think what anon meant is that Caltech and MIT are the best of the best in STEM degrees and Cornell is just a really expensive state school

imblying i don't go to a top 10 uni in UK

>>6388381
I hope you're in dentistry. Your people need it.

>>6388339

i guess this is where my ignorance/autism shows through because I am in the same boat as you and really, and I mean really, hope this isn't the case.

I just do wish that with enough hard work and decent effort I, or you, could make the argument we were going through some tough times and in spite of everything we came back finished ahead. That alone should prove perseverance and determination that some employers are looking for and a sympathetic enough entrance interviewer should understand that.

Im even more disheartened because I too am an electrician, but engineering is what I love and want to do. There has to be some hope? maybe times will change for the better? in our favor?

>>6387752
I mean. They both affect splicing in their own way and to try and quantify which one affects splicing more doesn't really make sense.

>Why not just TAL that shit

Without getting into detail, I'll just leave this here
>https://xkcd.com/793/

>Oh yeh, cures don't generate enough dough.

This makes me rage more than anything. I hate people who think like this. It tells me they have no basic understanding of business or how science works in industry. They just spout off whatever they read on leddit that one time.

/sci/ is where college freshman come to tell you your degree is worthless and brag about their 4.0 GPA they got in college algebra 1 and freshman writing.

>>6388381


top 10 university in the UK means that you have 60-80% chance of attending a university ranked lower than one in the US.


that probability increases if you are in graduate school in the hard sciences, where the chancesa re more like 90-95%.

>>6388376

Cornell does have some great graduate programs (like, top 10, or so), but comparing it to MIT/CalTech is kind of meh, as those schools are consistently in the top five for most STEM programs (graduate and undergraduate).

>>6388329

Srsly, Berkeley is a damn fine school.

>>6387687
Wish I knew what type, maybe we'd have some colleagues in common.

>>6388376

Cornell is by far the best Ivy school for STEM, the only other reason why would you go to any other Ivy is simply for the prestige or for the location. Harvard is a close second but it has more to do with Gates and Zukerburg's individual contributions than by what Harvard actually did for them.

I dont know anything, i just like reading stuff

>>6388932

By far... meh, I'd say it's equivalent to Harvard? The other Ivies are much weaker, (although I've heard Princeton and Yale have good math departments, but I don't know how true it is). But UC Berk and Stanford are probably in that calibur as well.

Hopefully, with the glut of graduate students, the research departments will even out as qualified PhDs who want to be in academia seek positions beyond the traditionally good schools.

>>6387583
YES

>>6389102

When you get to that level all this argument amounts to is a dickwaving competition. No one is seriously going to trash your job application or your research when you say you went to Cornell vs MIT/CalTech.

>>6387646
Sounds interesting, good luck anon. Hope you and your team find success.

>>6388391

>>6387583
>implying
Cambridge masterrace reporting

i really should have started revising by now edition

>>6389131
UK here, if I want to do a PhD in my field my choices are basically Cambridge, Cornell, UC Davis, Sydney, Edinburgh and a series of no-names. What is Cornell like? And what is its reputation in the states?

>>6389131

Yeah, it is. At this level, PI is a LOT more important than school if you're going into academia from a PhD background. Nobody cares if you went to MIT if you worked for some geezer who is close to retiring and not doing cutting-edge research anymore.

For industry R&D with a PhD, it's all about having the right skillset/experience (i.e. exactly what they're looking for), although working for a very well-known PI can change that. It's a lot more lenient for yield-improvement type jobs.

At the BS level you'll probably have an advantage from those schools simply because of alumni connections.

>>6389181

Good reputation, nice area. Though most places you'll be working most of the time, so choose PI > location.

>>6389191
I don't want to get a job and academia seems like a good stopgap. By the time I graduate I will have been at Cambridge for 6 years so I don't really want to stay here for another 3/4. Cambridge is great but the environment is basically what I have been in all my life - smallish town/city full of upper-middle class white people. I want to go somewhere different.

it is curious, whenever I read a post I feel like sci is full of ignorants, but whenever I ask something there is always somebody with the answer I was looking for...

>>6389197

Well, that's going to describe a lot of places. If you want somewhere really different, try U Chicago! Although I assume you're in the process of visiting schools for next year since you were very specific about where you're going.

>>6389197

You might regret this, a lot. You mean don't want to get a job as in the market is bad and you're hoping to see where it goes?

>>6389212
I just do a niche program, I still have 2 and a bit years left before I graduate. The market is fine but pay is shit (~$40k starting), I can bump that up by doing academic practice

>>6388759
>implying your high schools make it difficult to get in in the first place

I got an A on my first Pre-Calculus test. Once I hit Calculus, I can finally say I'm a member of /sci/. When do you guys think it's okay to see what my major is? Calculus III? I feel embarrassed being in Pre-Calculus, and saying I'm a CS or CE major.

>>6387610
I bet you're a fucking genius then, huh?

>>6389102
Berkeley has #3 Mech E program in the country, second behind MIT and Stanford (the College of Engineering loves to brag about this fact).


But I think most students don't think it's that great of a school because of the difficulty.
UC Berkeley is known for having a much lower average GPA than like Stanford or MIT.

UC Berkeley humbles a lot of kids.

You come in with near perfect SAT score, valedictorian, etc, and you are surrounded by people who did just as well, many who did better.

I've met tons of kids who I thought were idiots,only to find out that they had like 2390 SAT, valedictorian, ranked nationally on some exam, etc etc.

>>6387583
I take offense to that. I graduated from tech college. Twice.

I didn't drop out of community college. I dropped out of four year state school after I transferred.

What a disaster.

>>6389438
he meant that among the top 10, 60-80% of them are ranked lower

>>6389792
This. And among every single college mentioned above (besides Davis), UC Berkeley is the only public school.

>>6389792

Well, GPA's no indicator of how good a school is.

Schools like Stanford have a good education, but no matter how dumb you are you have a really high GPA becuase Stanford has that high GPA reputation

Wheras if you go to a good public or state school, you'll probably have a GPA a good .4 to .6 lower because they don't need to grade inflate.

Honestly, a 3.2 at one of the good state schools is probably as impressive as a 3.5 at Stanford

>>6389831
well Berkeley is strictly anti-grade inflation.
engineering classes are curved to a 2.7 (B-) average. One professor curved the average to a C.
professors straight up say it's so that they don't have grade inflation.

Average MechE GPA at Berkeley is like....2.7-2.9?

=/

High school dropout here.

Yes, people here are fucking retarded.

>>6389831

I went to Stony Brook which certainly qualifies as one of the good State Schools. My Organic Chem prof went to guest lecture at Harvard for a week. He said that "A" work there was "B+" work at Stony Brook because our grading standards are harsher.

I sure hope grad school admissions people are aware of this...