/sci/ - Science & Math

> The evidence is mounting that not only do we have more than a century's worth of recoverable oil in the United States alone (even if there is a limit to the earth's oil supply), but that we also actually have a limitless supply of Texas tea because oil is in fact a renewable resource that is being constantly created deep under the earth's surface and which rises upward, where microscopic organisms that thrive in the intense pressure and heat miles below us interact with and alter it.

> Scientist Thomas Gold presents the decades-old theory of "abiotic" oil-creation, which supports these facts, in his book, The Deep Hot Biosphere. In it he explains that the idea of the "biotic" creation of "fossil fuels" -- that decaying organic matter is compressed into oil -- is incorrect. In fact, the earth is constantly producing new oil very deep below its surface, and in some cases the oil flows up to replenish existing oil fields thought to be exhausted. In simple terms, the microscopic organisms mentioned above interact with the hydrocarbons, altering them and leaving their footprint, thus disproving the notion that oil is a "fossil fuel."

>>6369406
Not on our schedule.

> Eugene Island is an underwater mountain located about 80 miles off the coast of Louisiana in the Gulf of Mexico. In 1973 oil was struck and off-shore platform Eugene 330 erected. The field began production at 15,000 barrels a day, then gradually fell off, as is normal, to 4,000 barrels a day in 1989. Then came the surprise; it reversed itself and increased production to 13,000 barrels a day. Probable reserves have been increased to 400 million barrels from 60 million. The field appears to be filling from below and the crude coming up today is from a geological age different from the original crude, which leads to the speculation that the world has limitless supplies of petroleum.

> The theory of what Gold calls the deep hot biosphere was explored more fully in Stalinist Russia in the 1940s when the Russian dictator demanded that his scientists find a way to increase Soviet oil production. As they explored the idea that oil and other hydrocarbons are constantly being generated deep beneath the earth's surface, Russian technology was developed in the 1970s to test the theory by drilling as deep as 40,000 feet into the earth. As a result, Russia was the first nation to begin to understand and exploit these renewable oil reserves, and today their oil industry is thriving.

>>6369411
Read the article. It only takes a few decades for our oil reserve to renew themselves.

>>6369414

Gonna have to tell you you're wrong m8

>>6369416
Cool opinions there m8.

Explain how we've been able to keep getting oil from fields that should have run dry years ago. You can keep denying reality all you like, but the facts are the facts.

>>6369414
>renew themselves
I don't think you understand what's going on here. Liquids such as oil and water move underground just like they do above ground. It's a little slower, to be sure, but that doesn't make it less true. Most likely this "renewed" oil reserve is just oil that moved in from somewhere else. the oil isn't being magically synthesized by decomposing organic material, it's coming from other oil reserves. That said, we've got enough oil to last us a while, but we're consuming it insanely faster than the planet's naturally producing it. If you can't accept that, go back to /pol/.

>>6369421
But that makes no sense

>>6369421
> still thinking thinking peak oil is real
I remember back in the late 70s when everyone was screaming about how the oil would all run out by 1981. This sort of alarmist nonsense is just another lie that the green energy fat cats peddle to justify their endless subsidies.

>>6369423
Yes it does, you just don't like that there is an explanation that is inconvenient to corporate oil companies. Or do you need me to break it down further?

>>6369430
But if nothing makes oil how does it exist in the first place?

>>6369428
>>6369421
>That said, we've got enough oil to last us a while, but we're consuming it insanely faster than the planet's naturally producing it

Nobody's saying the wells are going to run dry any time soon, however, what is expected oil and gas will eventually wind up more expensive and be less cost effective than other renewable energy forms in the future. That time may not come any time soon, maybe not even in our lifetime, but some day, we'll need to pull away from oil and gasoline.

>>6369406
costs more energy to renew them than we get out of them.

So after skimming the wiki article on abiotic petroleum origin it seems like it's most likely bunk but I guess there's a slim chance that it's true

>>6369406
>where microscopic organisms that thrive in the intense pressure and heat miles below us interact with and alter it.
Maybe creationism is true and the creator is a bad science fiction writer.
>muh nanomachines

>>6369413
>the world has limitless supplies of petroleum
>limitless
there are only two things of which this world has a limitless supply: stupidity and denial

>>6369419
Giant lakes of decomposed dead plants and animals that accumulated over countless millions of years can't replenish in decades you massive faggot.
We keep pumping that shit because of shitty surveying, not because wizard came and made more oil.

>>6369421
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomass#Biomass_sources
>The estimated biomass production in the world is 104.9 petagram (104.9 * 1015 g) of carbon per year, about half in the ocean and half on land.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_fuel
>The burning of fossil fuels produces around 21.3 billion tonnes (21.3 gigatonnes) of carbon dioxide (CO2) per year

>21.3 GT / 104.9 Pg = 20.3%
Surprising that they're on the same order of magnitude.

So the next question is, is at least 20% of all organic matter ultimately converted to fossil fuels? If so, it would appear that fossil fuels are in fact "renewable" over very long timescales, provided that we maintain current consumption levels or somehow accelerate natural biomass production to match our consumption levels.

>>6369613
Oh shit, I missed something:
>104.9 pentagrams of carbon
>21.3 billion tonnes of carbon DIOXIDE
So in reality we're looking at about... 5% or so being the representative figure of fossil fuel consumption : biomass production, I think?

>>6369419
An oil field is declared dry not when it has run out of oil, but when it is less not economically viable to extract the oil.

In a new oil field, the oil is under pressure. You simply drill a hole and the oil pumps itself out. After a certain amount has been extracted, you need to invest in pumps to extract the oil. When the oil levels are low, you may need to burn more energy than you gain from the oil (therefore it's no longer viable to extract as you are effectively burning more fuel than your extracting by attempting to pump it out),

As technology improves, oil fields formerly declared dead now become economically viable again... Hence more oil is pumped out of a once 'dry' field...

>>6369596
OP isn't arguing that a wizard did it, OP is arguing that so called "fossil-fuels" AREN'T the result of biological remains transformed by geologic scale amounts pressure, heat and time-that they are instead a recent run-off of the vast subterranean biosphere, produced in a rate comparable to usage, and hidden by a vast sinister conspiracy.

Read the thread before you comment. A wizard? That would be silly. The article that the OP is quoting, from the same source as the truth about Obama's religion, asks the reader if they personally checked where oil comes from and invites all true americians to our future of limitless, domestic oil. No wizards, just the Underdark, there's a big difference.