/sci/ - Science & Math

As a (former) student of physics I don't know why one would study engineering in the first place, but here I don't quite see why you are led to imply that math/physics would be a subject where you'd get better grades.

>>6290420

Are you actually studying? Just spend an hour or two in the afternoon/evening hanging with your engbros and then hit the books at night. It's all abut time management

>>6290431
First term I fucking did bro, I finished with a 2.2 GPA (C+ average). I gave up everything. I simply was not able to perform on the tests, even though the content made sense, the amount of owrk reqiured to put in and perform flawless solutions on que without having to think about them was too much.

For winter break I just layed on my bed and kept on thinking about my life was over. Got nothing done, played video games all day and now I'm at the start of an even harder semester and I don't know what the fuck to do. I'm panicking.

(I'm not really failing, but I foresee it in the near future).

Study smarter, not harder. Or quit.

/sci/ convinced you to do engineering? You homosexual, bro? Not that there's anything wrong with that, we tolerant now.

But maybe you simply do not like engineering as much as you thought you would. You should study something that is fun. Personally I can't wait for next monday when my courses start.

>>6290436
I just don't know how to. I did find all the study tips and hacks and all this shit, and the "hurr practice problems are KING".

The fact is you have to spend 90% of the god damn day doing practice problems that cause you mental stress and the shit is jut so god damn hard after an hour

it probably doesnt help that i have periodic adderall crashes (along with half of the other kids here)

>>okay.ttf, this shouldnt be easy. Engineers are dumb as fuck anyway
You obviously went into it thinking you were hot shit and have no applicable study habits to speak of.
Just about any hard science field you go into will be like this. If you can't bring yourself to study appropriately then you should probably stick to the humanities where the actual dumb fucks go.

>>6290438
well i literally made a thread. IT wasnt all you guys. I knew physics was a shitfuck for jobs. I thought I could be practical. I THOUGHT I COULD HAVE USE

NOW I ONLY SEE MYSELF SUCCEDING AS A LATTE ARTIST

>>6290440
I'm not dumb, I am actually smarter than most people here (Not that it's a measure of intelligent). I understand concepts, I actually enjoy learning about (most) of this stuff.

But the work ethic. I've never had it. In highschool, shit was a breeze. Here; there are so many abstract rules and formulas that we are told to ignore all intuition and simply memorize. The penhand that writes these solutions is the hand that's spent hundreds of hours writing similar problems.

I tried to put in all the work I could. It simply is too much work.

>>6290440
I forgot to mention that I also did a survey this term for one of my EC humanities, and the average age of my first year engineer classmates is 23.8

23 point fucking 8.

I just turned 19 what the fuck

top lel OP, ya dun goofd because you were greedy and you got to engineering because of the money /sci/ promised you would get. I'm topleling at your life

I did the same thing 4 years ago, then I realised I was an idot, hurr durr u'll get the money hurr, fuck that bullshit ,quited eng. and now I'm a 2nd year math&phys student. I love math&phys and I'm good at it, it took me 2 years to realise that.

so don't do it for the money, do it for yourself, doo eet for math!!

>>6290448
>I am actually smarter than most people here
>>failing hard
>>actually, most people are failing
I can guarantee that you aren't "smarter than most people here". If you think you are then you're obviously going into this thinking your hot shit. But that's expected from some 19 year old little shit just getting into college. Your type is a dime a dozen kid. Hell, I was just like you when I started. Take my bit of advice and dispel that silly notion right now.

>>6290453
I'll tlel you the things I am enjoying out of it

Learning the math and physics is bliss. I always though calc would be hard, but the shit is easy and I love discovering things about it.

What am I getting fucking tired of is the same god dman linear algebra related physics 10 part questions that require extensive amounts of effort. I am tired of the same god damn nigger block sliding off an incline and colliding with another stationary block.

>>6290458
Most people are doing worse than me.

>>6290463
That's nice.

>>6290461

deal with it, I too have some shitty courses, learn to love them

>>6290433
>(I'm not really failing, but I foresee it in the near future).

Chin up, man. You will fail with an attiude like that. Just go over to Khan Academy or some thing and supplement your studying to make sure you grasp the points. Google 'studying tips' etc
.
Also what country are you from?

>>6290461

Calm down, it's not like you have to do algebra for every subject in the course

>>6290469
>khanacademy

oh god

you dont even know man

it has nothing to do with simplifying concepts

it has to do with putting in so much work to be able to reproduce solutions without having to think about them.

Imagine doing a hard physics problem you understand but takes oyu time to think to get through it, say it takes you 15 mins.

Now say you only have 5 mins to do a variation of it on a test

you need to repeatedly do different questions over and over and over until its second nature, and its juts so fucking boring

>>6290448
>there are so many abstract rules and formulas that we are told to ignore all intuition and simply memorize
That is just bad. Even for engineering. Flee.
Just go for maths. From your posts you seem like a guy who hates computations but likes to understand concepts. GO MATHS. I've myself started a maths degree in the middle of my cs degree and I can honestly say that, while the double workload almost made my brain melt, it was the best choice ever.

>>6290475

>fucking boring

you must grow up and quit bitching about boring things

>mfw the hardest math you do in engineering is complex analysis

HAHAHAHAHAHHA

In a proper country, you're finished with that after high school.

>>6290482
If only you had a proper mother, you would've been able to do that by the time you left the womb.

>>6290485
It's funny, because this dumbass over here thinks I'm being sarcastic.

If you didn't have a sub-par IQ, maybe you'd be up there with the rest of us :^)

>>6290482
Actually, "hand-waving to the residue theorem" could probably be taught to high-schoolers. It only involves basic differentiation and drawing curves in the plane.

>>6290420
Sauce of picture, please.

>>6290489
any "you love you lose" /b/ thread ever.

>>6290478
>telling a failing engie to study maths

>>6290490
Well, I've seen her few times on /b/.
Nobody seems to know the name.

>>6290491
I hold a 3.7 GPA in computer science and a flawless GPA in my maths masters. Does that mean that computer science is hard (lol) or that I simply like maths more so I put in more work? Have faith in him.

>>6290497
I'm about the most pathetic person I know, so when I say that I do not know her name than I am confident that virtually nobody else knows.

>>6290448
>smarter than most people here
>fails second year engineering

top lel

>>6290450
a lot of people work in construction for years then decide to engineer. it's common at my university.

>>6290501
Why would you say you are pathetic ?

>>6290420
Dude, i finished a ChemE and it wasn't that hard. Then again, it varies. Just fucking study.

>>6290430
To have a job when you graduate.

>>6290448
>I'm not dumb, I am actually smarter than most people here
No you are not. Otherwise you wouldn't be failing engineering. Especially your first year.

>we are told to ignore all intuition and simply memorize
That's exactly what engineering is not. What the fuck are you studying?

>>6290463
No.

>>6290475
>and its juts so fucking boring
You and about ten million other schmucks who are too special to put in any work into their schooling. And if you know it so well that it's boring, you shouldn't be failing.

I laugh at you.

>>6290448

I feel you, but not in every aspects

Never did a thing in Highschool, now i'm in the 3rd sem chemeng. and i start to worry about the exams in 10 days.

Last 2 semesters were quite good, but i just started learning today. the first semester i started learning 1 day before every exam.
maybe youre not as smart as you think

>>6290496
If this thread is any indication, there is no way OP will be able to pull off a 3.7 in comp sci or math.

Maybe your IQ was too low.

>>6290531

This thread is quite appealing to me, I feel like I could get something out of it. 2014 is my final year at high school (Australia) and I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing with my future. I thoroughly enjoy maths and physics and peak the top of class in my, albeit abnormally small, private school. I can't see myself doing anything but going to university, but I have no idea what course to do. I've considered engineering (no idea what kind) but I still have no idea. As for my spare time currently, I'm a socially awkward basement dweller. I spend 95% of my spare time on my PC playing games, browsing and sitting in TeamSpeak with my other like-minded friends. What I was hoping to find here is just a little bit of guidance as to what type of course I could pursue at university.

>>6290420
8/10

Subtle troll, almost got me

>>6290537
>and sitting in TeamSpeak with my other like-minded friends
>having friends
I'm sorry, you are too socially well adjusted to be a physics student

>>6290482
okay

if it's so easy construct C from Q

I give you 15 minutes, smartass

>>6290537
Engineering is nice because there isn't a horrible struggle for a job after. If you go into a pure science, you have to be prepared to get a completely unrelated career... which is perfectly okay. I know a biology PhD who works for the post office, and a well-published physicist who works in a water treatment plant. I ended up going into trades after my PhD. But engineers get set up with companies for their EIT stuff, and that usually leads to job offers.

Do a graduate degree only for interest/bettering yourself; treat it like a backpacking trip around Europe or something, only instead of banging French chicks on a Mediterranean beach you're reading research papers and debugging legacy computer code.

Anyway, if you're in high school, you still have no idea what you're going to like. Don't worry about it. Take some classes you think you'll enjoy, have fun, and think about careers and stuff in a few years.

>>6290662
>banging French chicks on a Mediterranean beach

>>6290537
Are you me ?
Except for the fact I'm not good at Maths.
Also, my high school curriculum includes what most of American Universities teach to under graduates in first and second year.

>>6290670
It's not too late, Anon. Contrary to popular belief, the French are very friendly, and there is always a ready supply of horny, naked ladies over there. And when you get tired from all the fucking, you can also pop over to Italy for some really fantastic food.

>>6290461
What is your syllabus for the coming semester ?

>>6290475
damn some of the problems my professor gave us just took me 15 mins to figure out exactly what was going on, then another 10 to work out all the shit.. I feel you on the time thing though, just memorize your equations and what they relate to, probably help you solve things much faster. That said there were many bright people in my class, they understood concept, most finished with a C. I got an A because i did the work and will not settle for less. Think about how many people graduate with a piece of paper saying they're an engineer,
Now the people who will get the really good jobs are simply the ones who will outwork the others, and can demonstrate discipline.
Learn this, I had to as well, I actually dropped out of high school because i was a lazy piece of shit.

>>6290482
wtf? where?

>>6290872
India.

>>6290872
mfw there is no proper country.

from a chemE i have to say the combination of shitload of different topics, the around of formulas you need to know how to use from cellular reproduction to fluid flow to thermodynamics to electrodynamics along with keeping in mind that you can at any time find a situation where you need to calculate the substrate left in a moving fluid with varieng temperature in a electromagnetic gradient combined with the amount of soft skills/science you need to obtain on your own, like communication skills, economy, management and admin related shit, engineering is probably the hardest thing to do. I did a math+physics degree afterwards and that shit was so easy, you take the textbook or notes of a specific subject, read them, do the questions, and youre done. you can then get a perfect score on the test.

>>6290894
Poor attempt, but had me reply so you get a 0/10.

>>6290904
physicist/mathematician detected.
please save your butthurt. fo the 1+2+3 = 12 threads

>>6290872
Israel.

>>6290713
Is this how Europe really is? Why am I in America?

>>6290436
>genuis

>>6290927
Shlomo plz.