/sci/ - Science & Math

Males have more diversity the Y chromosome. Just a speculation.

Is it true that more guys are gay than females?

men are more interested in sex I guess
I heard something like 40% (guessing, not sure what the actual number was but it was much higher than expected) of gay men in San Francisco had gay sex with over 1000 different people, but none of the lesbians had

Everyone loves the dick. /thread

>>6053965
Because they are women, they need the dick. Those who don't follow the dick are mentally ill.

That said there are more lesbians in animu than gaymen. How can you explain this?

>>6053965
If such is actually true, I'd say that it is because socially, it is more acceptable for a woman to be bi than a guy to be bi.

The psychological need for something to 'fill the void' innate in all biological creatures. Though there are those who wish for emptiness as to fill it, they are not there yet. Therefore homosexuality is the end result of man kind.

>>6053976
women dont 'need the dick', asshat.
some women are asexual, or have very low sex drives.

and i dont think theres more gay men than lesbians anyway. it's just that gay guys are more in-your-face and obvious about their sexuality, wheras lesbians are (usually) a lot harder to spot, and keep it private
other than the obviously massive big fat butch dikes, yeah, they're pretty easy to spot

>>6053977
then wouldnt the opposite be the case? there'd be 'seemingly' more lesbians, because it's more socially acceptable to be open about it, than for a man to be.

>>6053983
Nobody takes lesbians seriously, it's just seen as a phase or meanwhile they get married, maybe that's why there are less.

There is much more sexual variance in men than in women. I don't really know why, that's just how it is.

For instance, sexual paraphilia is practically nonexistent in women.

>>6053972
> men are more interested in sex I guess
That is idiotic. Women have more intensive and frequent urges. Just look at how fast they "recover" after coitus operation and induce logically.
> but none of the lesbians had
Or they just lied more. Women are statistically more social, which makes them more likely to lie and better liars (which is also confirmed by studies).
> That said there are more lesbians in animu than gaymen. How can you explain this?
Unless this question is insincere, this is quite easy: anime is a lot more popular among men, in particular among retarded /sci/ browsing men, who seek for sexual satisfaction, but have no other achievable options, than to fantasize, which in perspective leads to increase in abnormality of fantasies. See what I did there? You felt like I'm talking about you, even though it wasn't in my sentence.

>>6053986
it's not a fucking phase, dickhead!
im bi anyway, and i aint planning to ever get married. and it aint just 'a phase' what? do you think i'll just magically change my mind and go off women one day??

>>6053993
>btw im a grill
Back to tumblr with your whining.

>>6053989
it might be less common in women than men, but it definitely aint 'practically nonexistent'
most people have some sort of fetish, even if it's a mild one.

>>6053996
i dont even fucking use tumblr, cunt.
and i aint whining, im right.

>>6053993
Typical female or a typical /sci/er.
>>6053989
>more sexual variance
By that do you mean among fetishes? All right, first of all, I'd like some respective links to studies. Also: but what if you consider higher tendency to have an exhibitionism fetish among women? Doesn't that imply tendency to show off in general?

>>6053994
So, do you like gingers? Wet hair? Vivid coloured hair? Hoses? Beautiful feet?

>>6054012
im not into any particular hair colour, but for some fucked up reason i like them to be shy as fuck (guy or girl) but still really into me.
i like to be in control.

>statistically speaking
>entire thread contains 0% stats
Statistically speaking, why are these threads so bad?

>>6054018
Because 100% of anons are, statistically speaking, retards. Also now entire thread contains more, than 0, percent stats. Not topic-oriented, but hey.

>>6054016
Hm. Had any incidents related to water when you were ~10?

>>6054018
>complains about thread
>posts anyway
GTFO, then.

>>6054027
I'm just saying that you guys should start looking at finding some sources, this is /sci/ afterall.

>>6054040
It's like saying "I'm just saying you guys should be smarter, this is church after all".

>>6053965
Because male gays have 0 effect on breeding populations, a single male can knock up all the available females. Female gays, on the other hand, can have quite a large impact, reducing the reproductive capacity of the group as a whole.

>>6054028
dont think so. what do you mean? like, nearly drowning or something? nah, that never happened.

>>6053965
Because it's trendy to be a faggot

>>6053965
From personal experience as a gay man, there's an inverse relation between the number of Lesbians (L) to Gays (G) depending on relationship status (Single [S] or Dating [D])

For example:
If D then G>L
If S then L>G
This is always true.

>>6054064
No, just related. You have a very bad memory, try harder, please. Your grandmother is contacting me right now via vibe and she wants to remind you, that latter years of uni are less important, than the first ones. Also -- and this is very important: she is very upset with the absence of capital letters in your posts. And, please, be less naughty next time you masturbate. "In my days you could only *hope* you'll find something of use in the forest, but usually -- all you had was your hand." -- she says.

>>6054071
Always was interested in how -- if differently -- female gaymanship is called.

>>6053994

theres a difference between fetish and paraphilia

of course this is just semantics...but "fetish" tends to refer to a singular, minor part of someone's sexuality, something that just excites them, while paraphilia tends to refer to a dominant part of one's sexuality that is highly unusual. the paraphilia tends to be the person's "main" sexuality

>>6054082
>how female gaymanship is called.
Lesbian...it's not a derogatory term, hence 'L'GBT

>>6054082
wtf are you on about?

>>6054087
We should create one. I suggest "maggot". Logic behind this is obvious and simple.

>>6054092
I can only receive images, it's your part to interpret my words.

>>6054093
ahahah! wow, nah, that'l never catch on

>>6054096
wat?

>>6054027
>someone says something wrong
>gtfo if you correct them

Why ask a question if you don't want an answer?

>>6054100
He's not OP, I am OP. Don't judge by gut, use your mind.

>>6054093
"Dyke" is the standard English derogatory term for lesbian. Be prepared to have your balls cut off if using this word in poor company.

>>6054099
No need to feel defensive about this. It was not your fault, she says it was time for her to go. It's all right now though.

>>6054111
both of my grandmas are still alive, and you're a shit troll

>>6053983
Nah, women who are actually lez can identify as bi to not have to deal with a lot of the social backlash that might come of being admittedly full blown lez. Guys, on the other hand, are generally treated as being gay or not being gay.

So on the lez side of the house, you have the bi women taking away from the number of lesbians and on the gay side of the house, you have bi guys adding to the number of gays.

>>6054106
...You mean company of tomboy lesbians? That isn't something I would call a "poor company" exactly.

>>6054128
just don't call one a dyke to her face...or else.

>>6054128
no, but it's 'poor company' to use that word around. because they'll get pissed off and kick your ass.
or at least, they might.
personally i wouldnt. call me a dyke if you like, im not gonna be offended, even face to face.

>>6054121
I never said she died, sweetie. There is a big distance between you.

>>6054139
no there isnt. STFU with your shitty guesswork and trolling.

>>6054132
some people honestly dont mind. i like both, and that aint a crime nad it aint wrong.
if someone calls me what i am, and im not ashamed of it, then why would i be mad?

>>6054138
It's because you're a sub and like it hard. Also you're only half-dyke.

>>6054142
I like you.

Most of my friends are straight guys and I had to literally beat the word "faggot" out of their everyday IRL vocabulary (the word really doesn't bother me on here, it means something totally different on 4chan, but IRL it pisses me off)

>>6054144
im not a sub, this was my post >>6054016

i like to be in control. so definitely not a sub.

>>6054132
But subs would only be turned on hearing it, right?.. Like with faggots?

>>6054147
why should it piss you off? if the word 'faggot' literally means 'a guy who likes the dick' in teh context that they were using it, and that applies to you, then why get offended?
obviously if they're your mates, they aint using it in a bad way. it's just banter.

just have a sense of humor about it. i always do.

>>6054148
Tomboy then.

>>6053986

nobody takes gay people serious. it's the exact same thing with men. you'd be a fool to think otherwise.

>>6054154
yeah that rite ;)

>>6054155
It is never seen as a "phase", so error on your part, mate.

>>6054149
perhaps. Some people might view it differently. For me, it brings back bad memories of Junior High.
>>6054151
No, "gay" is the term for a guy that likes the dick. Faggot is a term used to marginalize and exclude. My friends would use it off handedly without even realizing. Somebody stops short in traffic, they yell "faggot" and I punch them in the arm.

>>6054158
Too bad nobody wants you, except fagets from 4chan.

>>6054162
> and I punch them in the arm.
Oh god what a sissy. You'd make an excellent dickgirl. Hope they punch you in the face for that every time.

>>6054163
well it's not easy getting girls, because other dykes are so damn hard to find. but guys are fucking easy to get. all guys are sluts, as far as i can tell.

>>6054162
lol. watch this. trust me, it's worth it.

he pretty much sums up how i view the word 'faggot'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcja4WFFzDw

>>6054166
> sissy
lol no. I could easily kick their ass if I wanted to hurt any one of them. Small pain teaches a lesson, big pain ends friendships.

>>6054168
Ha-ha-ha, slut is only applicable to females. Suck it up bitch.
<Males. Owning bitches using only this linguistic loophole since the creation of language>

>>6054173
you were never called "faggot" every day for 3 years just because you accidentally tented your boxers one time in the locker room.

>>6054177
no it isnt. i use the word to mean people who are 'easy' of either gender.

>>6054178
well yeah, but they probably would have, i guess they just didnt want to get their ass kicked by a tomboy. i kinda had a reputation for getting in fights a lot. so people knew not to piss me off pretty early on.

>>6054184
I buffed up in High School and the teasing stopped.

>>6054162
>marginalize and exclude
Excise these words from your vocabulary as well as people who use them, and you will live a far more enjoyable life.

>>6054188
understand what those words mean and you will understand my point of view.

>>6054181
> i use the word to mean people who are 'easy' of either gender.
Oh, Great Scott, well that must be taking into account. I use the word girl when I mean "human". So it doesn't really mean "females". You dykes are just as stupid as naturals.

>>6054187
ha, nice! good for you.

>>6054184
How frequently you experience shame? About anything. At least weak one.

>>6054193
fine, w/e. what word should i use to refer to slutty men , then?
coz yeah, clearly guys who are taken tend to have some loyalty, and aint so easy. but single guys are pretty much always VERY easy. as far as i can tell. not that theres anything wrong with being a slut of either gender. fun is fun.

>>6054196
i pretty much dont feel it at all. i do what i like, and if people dont like it they can go fuck themselves. i dont feel guilt either.

>>6054198
> what word should i use to refer to slutty men , then?
There are no such words in any language.

>>6054159

yes because of the popular opinion that your disposition towards dick is solely genetic and terminally constant.

I thought we could agree that this is utmost bullshit

>>6054204
w/e, i'll call them slutty if i like. people know what it means when you call a straight guy a slut.

>>6054201
Let me guess: you like to act, to perform, be in the centre of attention?

>>6054206
Yes, but they shame the one who said it, not the one who it's directed to, which pretty much exterminates any purpose to say this word out loud. Females would think "what is she talking about? They have dicks, for the fuck's sake!" and males would think "what is she talking about? We have dicks, for the fuck's sake!".

>>6054208
so what if i do? i dont need you fucking psychologically profiling me or owt.

When it comes to sexual arousal men are more visual. Women care more about status.

>>6054191
>implying I don't
Minorities of every slant need to realize that literally everyone gets shit upon. Everyone. Much of it is for some bullshit reason just as asinine as shitting on someone for their sexual orientation/race. This does include males and even white males and gasp! straight white males. No one is free from this.

If you want to succeed in life, to be happy, then it is your mission to just be you, everyone else be damned. Exclusionary you say? Why the fuck do I want to be associated with people who want to exclude me?
But jobs? Yeah, and? Life sucks. Know what? That job was probably going to someone more pleasant to be around and easier to get along with than you. This has nothing to do with your sexuality and everything to do with how you approach life. Trying to get a job at Sue Bob's Southern Baptist Day Care? You're just fucking stupid.

Marginalizing? If people are too stupid to listen to my message just because of some superficial quality I have, that is on them. Beyond that, if you're not one of my friends, family, or someone who can convince me in a hurry that you have decent ideas/worthwhile person to be around, I couldn't give two shits about you no matter who/what you are. Does being dismissed so easily suck? Yeah, it does, but you know what? It's not happening to you as a direct result of your sexuality anywhere near as many times as you think it is. No one likes being around a whiner, a complainer, a continual victim.

>>6054214
no, they'd know exactly what i mean. plus i'd use it in context "that guy over there fucked sarah, laura, and hannah all in the same week, he's such a slut lol"

not that im using 'slut' as an insult. coz i aint
it's none of my business how many people he'd slept with. i'd just be making conversation. it'd be an interesting piece of gossip, see?

Why has it been so difficult to measure sexual arousal and thoughts in women? Over the years there have been many many questionnaires for women about sex, but they all seem to be unclear and give odd answers. Almost as if they're not completely telling the truth.

What gives? When asked about sexual arousal and things like that men will be totally honest but women seem to give vague, seemingly dishonest answers. Or is that totally wrong?

>>6054215
Confirmed for ASPD

>>6054159
>I've never heard of the four year queer.

>>6054217
nice generalisation there, asshat.
what does 'status' even mean, anyway?
i go mainly for visual, and im a girl.

for 'status' i presume you mean if they're really wealthy, or like if they have any land owning or titles or shit like that. but you can never know those kinds of things unless they tell you. which they usually wont.
im pretty sure ALL people mainly go for looks.

status doesnt mean shit.

>>6054223
They're just as clueless as guys are about women's sexuality.

>>6054220
They'd know, but my statements are still true since they don't contradict this.
And it'll provoke admiration in men and desire in women. So like I said you're only doing guy a favour, which defeats the purpose.

>>6054223
that's because if someone is doing a sexual survey, you still feel like you're being judged. so no woman wants to openly say "oh yeah, i fuck myself with a dildo about 3 times a week, ive had a boyfriend on and off for the past four months, but i slept with his best mate when we were 'on a break' oh, and ive had 3 or 4 one night stands, but i didnt tell my bf about any of them"

instead they'l be vague as fuck, and just want to get out of there "oh, me? yeah, long term partner, healthy sex life, im just normal and average, nothing to see here bye bye"

>>6054218
I never claim to be a victim and I certainly don't whine about how gays get treated, but you have to understand something: being gay (at least in the southern US) is being an outsider. It is NEVER fitting in. You at least have the option to find a peer group that you can associate with.
Guess what, in my state i can be fired from ANY job for no reason other than because my boss found out I am gay. I do not have a "gay" personality, most people wouldn't even know I am gay unless I tell them, but even still I could be fired for that.
If I go out in public with my boyfriend we get stared at...even when there's no PDA or contact. Rarely do we get "hateful" stares, but something more like a child at the zoo, "Oh look mommy, a marmoset...Oh look mommy, a gay couple."
You don't have to live life always on display. Don't preach until you understand the other's point of view.

>>6054224
but im not antisocial at all. ive got loads of friends, and i go out, and like dancing, and have various hobbies and shit.
you clearly aint a psychologist, you cant fucking diagnose me.

>>6054223
I fucking answered that in the beginning of the thread >>6053992. Also: social predisposition of sexes. Why am I the only one who gives useful answers?

>>6054229
>admiration in men
maybe, or perhaps just jealousy.
>desire in women
not really. a guy who sleeps around and is well known for it isnt usually particularly desirable. tends to go hand in hand with a reputation that he just uses women for sex, and doesnt give a shit about them. couple that with significantly higher chance of contracting VD from said slut, and you've got a couple of severe turn-offs right there.

>So like I said you're only doing guy a favour, which defeats the purpose.
i was never trying to insult, nor do him a favour. i just like to gossip =p

>>6053992
>Women have more intensive and frequent urges

not sure if i believe this

>>6053965
>Statistically speaking, why there are seemingly less lesbians than [boy-]gays?
Except there aren't. All normalfags of either gender are actually lesbian.

>>6054198 >>6054204
>fine, w/e. what word should i use to refer to slutty men , then?
Rapists.

Captcha:
>Sanhedrin havinci
Suggested meaning:
>Leonardo da Vinci was a secret member of the Jewish High Council.

>lesbians are just uglies that attract each other cus they can't get decent guys

prove me wrong. protip: you can't.

>>6054204
>>6054206
Are you both fucking retarded?
There a words in all languages for that. Womanizer for example.

>>6054245
it is actually true, yeah. it's just bad for our reputations to be too open about that. so you have to ACT like a prude, even if you're not. otherwise you'll get called a slut if you're too open about your desires.
gotta wait for the guy to come to you. it looks slutty to be the one to go to him and start flirting.
not that i fucking care. i'll do what i like and any cunt who calls me a slut is gonna get bitchslapped into next week.

>>6054249
slutty men arnt necessarily rapists. flirting a lot isnt rape. sleeping consensually with a lot of female sluts isnt raping them either.

>>6054250
>proved
I just did.

>>6054255

But just looking at how humans act you can conclude men desire sex more.

Men will always be down for sex. Women can practically use it as a bargaining tool.

>>6054250
i can prove you wrong. im bi, and i get decent guys. but i like girls too. and it makes perfect sense that some girls might exclusively like other girls. and thats not coz they cant get guys, its just coz they dont want to

>>6054244
> not really.
Really. If not for majority, for lots of times more, than in men (which is around 0%).

>>6054260
>But just looking at how humans act you can conclude men desire sex more.
ahaha! no, they really dont.
keep in mind that every time a man has sex with a woman, a woman also has sex with a man. so theres an equal amount of sex between the genders (ignoring bi's and queers for the moment, they dont skew the statistics too much from an overwhelming straight majority)

women desire it just as much, it's just that for the most part women wait for the guy to initiate it.

>>6054235
If your point of view includes being marginalized and excluded you are acting the part of the victim
>words
>words whining about how gays get treated while saying that they don't get treated that way
Yeah and here is more you being the victim.
>words that imply I had a peer group through most of high school
>fired for any reason
You realize that means anyone can be fired for any reason right? This kind of bullshit happens all of the time. My boss just got fired because he was making his boss look bad by actually getting shit done. There was literally no other reason. Justified it off as a "clash of personalities".
>words that people look at you
Ok, and? Guess what: you are a curiosity to these people. It'd be the same thing as if you were out with a four foot neon pink mohawk--people gonna look at things that they're not used to seeing. If you don't like it, move to somewhere that such a lifestyle is more normal, where it's not a curiosity that is rarely seen.
>you can't understand me and I'm just going to make assumptions about you
Look, you've got to get over yourself. You aren't the only one out there who has had a hard time of things, but no one else has either. In the end, you're going to be a person who rises above or gets crushed beneath. That's all there is to it.

Women desire sex more, yet at the same time, they're much choosier than men when it comes to choosing a partner. How does that work?

>>6054261
no, NOT really. well, usually.
trust me, most girls want a guy who has eyes for them, and ONLY them.
no girl wants a guy that shes constantly paranoid he's sleeping around with other women behind her back.

>>6054276
theres a biological reason behind women being choosy, in terms of picking an ideal mate for their offspring, for best reproductive success, evolutionarily speaking.
whereas for men to be successful, they need to fuck lots of women and have as many children as possible with each one.

that's how it usually works, but some women are slutty, and some dont ever want kids, so they dont always fit the pattern. and i certainly dont.

>>6054260
> judging personality traits by a social appearance

>>6053965
Because it's easier to be straight if you are female, you don't have to get anything 'up'.

>>6054278
It's just social image. In reality they leak from this stuff and don't even notice the bad thing about it.

>>6054292
its nothing to do with it being 'easier'
a tongue up your twat feels good. doesnt matter if its a guy or a girl on the other end of it. im surprised more girls arnt bi.

>>6054292
You only have to leak, yeah, so there's that. Also both genders would feel disgust to the sex that doesn't turn them on.

>>6054294
being particularly 'easy' is usually a bad social image for either gender.
guys might enjoy fucking sluts, but dont want them as long term partners.
the same is true for women. getting dicked by some random womanizer for the night might feel good, but he aint exactly relationship material. you gotta presume he'd probably cheat on you.

>>6054251
>womanizer
What a horrible faux-Latin frankenword.

It's like
>womanizare americanum est

Can you imagine a word like
>manizer?
Because that's how stupid "womanizer" is.

I'm not even native English but it seems that I have a better feel for it than you.

>>6054301
...might want to head over to dictionary.com mate.

>>6054301
>Can you imagine a word like 'manizer'?
>Because that's how stupid "womanizer" is.

the word is 'maneater'
and yeah, it's kinda dumb, but it's so well used, and people know what it means. it's kinda just stuck in language now
<<<

>>6054251
Yeah, aside from the part that it should be negative.
>>6054303
> you gotta presume he'd probably cheat on you.
But they don't. That's the beauty of it. Less logical plus more horny.

>>6054257
>slutty men arnt necessarily rapists. flirting a lot isnt rape. sleeping consensually with a lot of female sluts isnt raping them either.
I thought that all sex including consensual was statutory rape because an immature person isn't in capacity to decide for herself.

>>6054309
you think if i actually started dating a womanizer he wouldnt cheat?
presuming that we meet, and fuck, the same night, having only known each other for a couple of hours at most, it clearly shows he doesnt know much of your personality, just your looks. and thats good enough to be DTF

so if i was in a relationship with him, why wouldnt he be DTF with any other hot girl?

>>6054311
ahahahha! yeah funny. but the law doesnt work that way.

>>6054274
>If your point of view includes being marginalized and excluded you are acting the part of the victim
These are experiences I've had, not just points of view.
>Yeah and here is more you being the victim.
I'm trying to explain something to you, not play the victim. Instead of hearing me out, you are simply trying to dismiss me. You are part of the problem.
>You realize that means anyone can be fired for any reason right?
nope. My state prohibits employers for firing people for many reasons including disability, weight, age, sex, and many others, but not orientation.
>Ok, and? Guess what: you are a curiosity to these people.
That's marginalization!
>It'd be the same thing as if you were out with a four foot neon pink mohawk--people gonna look at things that they're not used to seeing
nope, that's a personal dress choice, not an innate sexual trait.
>If you don't like it, move to somewhere that such a lifestyle is more normal
That is exclusion!! I shouldn't have to move away from my home just because I like boys instead of girls.
>You aren't the only one out there who has had a hard time of things, but no one else has either. In the end, you're going to be a person who rises above or gets crushed beneath.
I don't claim to be. I'm simply trying to explain what it is like to you, but you seem to be too closed minded to even hear me out. I have to rise above every day and I am a stronger person because of it.

>>6054315
He would, she just wouldn't want to see it, she'd be very gullible, blind even.

>>6054324
no, she's be paranoid, and fully expect it. you dont understand women too well, do ya?

anyway, that's why open relationships are always the best. you dont have to put up with bullshit like jealousy, paranoia, 'cheating',or anything like that.

>>6054321
Go ahead. Keep that worldview. You're definitely not a victim anon. Nope. Not at all. Strong and independent. Good on you.

>>6054331
Apparently I can't even explain something to you without being called a victim. You're not block headed, not at all. Good on you.

>>6054260
>Men will always be down for sex. Women can practically use it as a bargaining tool.
100%.

>>6054273
>women desire it just as much,
Perhaps you are talking about men trapped in women's bodies, you just don't know it yet.

>>6054255 >>6054273
>it's just that for the most part women wait for the guy to initiate it.
>it's just bad for our reputations to be too open about that. so you have to ACT like a prude, even if you're not.
I must be a woman then...

>>6054328
No, you are being wrong right now.

Open ones don't suit stupid/empathetic people. Granted, they are worthless numbnuts, but that's the dominating majority right there.

>>6054340
Actually, yeah, you should be. Woman trapped inside man's body bragging about women being treated for the sluts they are. That's a great deal more probable, statistically speaking.

>>6054340
>100%.
no it's not. men are not 'always down for sex' i've worn them out on numerous occasions. i was ready to go again, and he was 'too tired' or 'not ready' or some other bullshit excuse.

>I must be a woman then...
oh, you're a guy?
then if you want a girl, go ask her out. she's not gonna come to you, even if she wants to. all she'll do is give you flirty eyes and hope that you TAKE THE FUCKING HINT!

unless it's me, in which case, if im into you, i'll pretty much just walk over and drag you away whether you like it or not.

>>6054349
>1. stupid and/or empathetic
>2. stupid = empathetic
I hope you meant 1.

How about extended marriages... instead of either normal marriages or open relationships?

Sexual sects could be best.

>>6054357
>Sexual sects could be best.
hmmm.. how would that work?

Men and women certainly aren't the same when it comes to sex. Example: most women would never want to watch guy on guy porn, while tons of men watch lesbian porn.

Simply looking at the male form doesn't seem to be enough to excite most women.

>>6054361
>while tons of men watch lesbian porn.
really? is that actually quite common?

OP's premise sounds like it's just an assumption. Is there any actual credibility to it or are we just working with anecdotal evidence here? Note that lesbians might be much harder to spot irl and that they have an easier time faking being heterosexuals than gays have.

>>6054363
most porn is watched by males.
this includes hetero, gay and lesbian.
dudes like penis

>>6054370
any stats on this?
i mean i kinda guessed that more guys would be into porn than girls, and it always seems directed at them, but i've watched quite a bit of porn, and i know some of my female friends definitely have. i mean, they arnt too open to talking about it, usually. but if they're drunk, and you get to that line of conversation, they'll usually admit to watching a least a bit of porn.
so maybe it's more common in women than you think. we just dont usually like to admit it.

>>6054375
>they'll usually admit to watching a least a bit of porn.
Get a guy drunk and he'll admit to watching porn every day for an hour and a half.
>Breakdown of male/female visitors to pornography sites 72% male - 28% female
Source: https://wsr.byu.edu/pornographystats

>>6054375

why are women so sheepish when it comes to talking about sex

i know the answer is "because women will be considered sluts"

but why? women are more numerous than men. it's almost like they're allowing it to happen by keeping that line of thinking alive themselves

>>6054383
I think this is my favorite stat:
>Porn revenue is larger than all combined revenues of all professional football, baseball and basketball franchises.

>>6054359
>>Sexual sects could be best.
>hmmm.. how would that work?
I'm not sure what's there to explain... I imagine something like a Jewish kibbutz or an early Christian community, except everyone is married to everyone and sexuality isn't considered evil. Sex outside the community is prohibited. Nobody "owns" children, they are "community property".

>>6054336
Umm, if you're not being victimized then what are you "rising above"?

>>6054354
>'not ready' or some other bullshit excuse.
You do know it's physiologically impossible for a man to get hard again immediately after cumming, right? Real people don't work as in hentai mangas.

>>6054397
idiots who dismiss me as playing a victim just because I try to explain something to them.

>>6054408
Ha-ha, loser. My boner is constant whenever I want it to be. Go to me, bi-girl.
...Please?

>>6054384
>women are more numerous than men.
Statistically, yes, but when you look at the details, you'll notice that practically all of the excess consist of old women who've outlived the supposed men of the same age.
In other words I'm declaring your argument invalod.

>>6054397
And I didn't say I wasn't victimized. Like you said, everyone is victimized in some way. But I don't walk around with a chip on my shoulder because if it. Calling me a victim though (akin to saying I'm "playing the victim," i.e. looking for sympathy) is an easy way for you to dismiss what I have to say and ignore a point of view that is different from your own. (A logical fallacy, btw. I thought /sci/ was supposed to be better than that.) Learn to see past your own nose, anon.

It took me ages to compose this message.

>>6054351
>Actually, yeah, you should be. Woman trapped inside man's body

I'm starting to realise that the only true genders are hermaphrodites and sadomasochists. The only real sex orientations are, respectively, gays and lesbians. "Gays" are hypersexual, "lesbians" are sexually repressive.

That's why I called all normalfags lesbian: >>6054249. All normalfags are sexually repressive.

>>6054354
>unless it's me, in which case, if im into you, i'll pretty much just walk over and drag you away whether you like it or not.

Are you a DmitrysFuta?

Please, be!

You deserve a massive clitoris and low-hanging ovaries.

>>6054443
>. Like you said,
There are different people who use the board anonfag.

>>6054450
> feminist
> faps to dicks
Sounds about right.

>>6054467
well then like that other anon said...

>>6054443
I cannot help, but say "quit being faggot",
While noticing an irritated style,
You're nothing more, than 4chan maggot,
Who sucked a length of dicks worth mile.

>>6054478
>can't refute what I have to say?
>use insults then!
great work there.

>>6054490
Poetic piece is good tho doesn't it?

>>6054490
It's more that you refuse to see anyone else's point of view or believe that they might have similar enough life experiences to be able to offer you some guidance. You choose to play the part of a victim believing your story to be so unique and difficult to understand that the only way someone else can begin to grasp it is to not only listen to you tell it, but also emote properly and hamfistedly tsks, titters, and other soothing sounds of supplication. You want the world to care enough about you that it empathizes (or at least sympathizes) with you, while you are simply being told that the world does not care. It does not care about your troubles because everyone else is too busy dealing with their own troubles. You feel put upon that this is true, but it can't be your fault. No it can't be that you need to shift your perspective. The world has to shift itself.

Maybe one day you'll grow up.

>>6053975
difficulties emerge when you love more than one.

>>6054408
>You do know it's physiologically impossible for a man to get hard again immediately after cumming, right? Real people don't work as in hentai mangas.

Recommended browsing:
>>>/gif/5888824
>endless orgasms
>>>/gif/5874378
>oozing cocks

>>6054468
>faps to dicks
Let's think.
What is DICK?
It's an orgasm organ. Orgasm is its only function.
The orgasm organ is found in both sexes.
Consequence 1: to not fap to DICK = to be asexual.
Consequence 2: sexual = gay.
Consequence 3: normalfag = lesbian.
Supporting literature:
>"Female eunuch" (1979)

>feminist
I fap to... dicks... without men. Is that feminist or antifeminist?

>>6053975
>Everyone loves the dick. /thread

>>6054511
no one else has offered a point of view, and sympathy is the last thing I want.

>>6054408
>You do know it's physiologically impossible for a man to get hard again immediately after cumming, right? Real people don't work as in hentai mangas.

Recommended browsing:
>>>/gif/5888824
>endless orgasms
>>>/gif/5874378
>oozing cocks

>>6054468
>faps to dicks
Let's think.
What is DICK?
It's an orgasm organ. Orgasm is its only function.
The orgasm organ is found in both sexes.
Consequence 1: to not fap to DICK = to be asexual.
Consequence 2: sexual = gay.
Consequence 3: normalfag = lesbian.
Supporting literature:
>"Female eunuch" (1979)

>feminist
I fap to... dicks... without men. Is that feminist or antifeminist?

>>6053975
>Everyone loves the dick. /thread

>>6054531
>no one else has offered a point of view,
So you have the audacity to tell someone else to look beyond their own nose and you've somehow missed the pov of the person you were debating with? Good god.

>>6054537
That anon never expressed a point of view, he simply tried to dismiss mine as playing the victim. Go back and reread the debate. He never expressed anything about how he perceives gays or the world.

>>6054531
> sympathy is the last thing I want.
But of course. You enjoy being the victim too much to appreciate sympathy.

>>6054549
*sigh*

Bumpin'!

>>6054547
Go back to that anon's very first long post. The POV is rather clear:
Being a victim is harmful to you, your happiness, and your success.

Then the two of you kept going back and forth basically saying:
>(you) I was victim of x and y but I'm not a victim.
>(anon) see you just said you were a victim and you refuse to admit you have a victim mentality
>(you) you're victimizing me, but I'm not a victim
>(anon) really? you're still claiming to not have a victim mentality
etc.

I agree with that anon. Successful people of any race/creed/orientation become successful by giving no worth to detractors like that while maintaining enough self-honesty to be able to assess themselves and change to better position themselves for success.

Happy people are much the same, but they put more emphasis on the positive forces in life than the negative ones.

Oh, and at times anon seemed to be hinting that you blame some of the bad things that have happened to you on your homosexuality when it could well be other aspects of your personality that are the cause.

>>6054359
Read the moon is a harsh mistress yoh.

>>6054620
What does it have to do with reality?

>>6054626
Everything really. If it had nothing to do with it, you couldn't interact with it, as well, as the quoted poster.

The thread started with a question on biology/sociology/psychology partially based on a subjectively acquired premise and ended with some whiny sissy-boy who in his twenties (inb4: too optimistic) hadn't accept a fact that he's a fag(got), with no useful links containing or at least logical responses at all.
> tfw it's the most scientific thread on the first page.

>>6054620
Heinlein, fuckyeah!
Didn't read that one
but my mind was happily warped by "Stranger in a strange land".

>>6054626
>What does it have to do with reality?
Former.
Reality is former fiction.

>>6054630
>Everything really.
LOL.

>>6054614
His first long post was an ad hominem attack dismissing what I had to say as playing the victim.

I really don't want to get into this again, so I will only say it one more time:

Simply stating what it is like to live in certain conditions is not playing the victim. It is simply an attempt to get a point of view across. Is it really impossible to have a discussion about what it is like to be gay without being accused of victimization? Would it be the same if we were discussing what it is like to be a mexican immigrant in the US? Many groups are treated poorly (like that anon said), but apparently if a member of that group tries to express that, they are automatically playing the victim and looking for sympathy. This isn't true. I was merely trying to get a point of view across to you and the other anons, but it spun out into a shit storm of accusations and defenses. I do not walk around acting like a victim. I one time expressed how I have experienced the world as a gay man, and it turned into this shitstorm of ad hominem attacks.

>>6054691
And here you go again entirely ignoring the message.

>>6054691
Stop letting this attacker junky get off, by acting like a victim. Man, it's fucking tiresome to read. Do not off-top.

I don't even if they about me or some else.

>>6054736
LOL, he's butthurt is so intense that he cannot form sentences correctly.

>>6054665
> tfw it's the most scientific thread on the first page.
Use the catalog.

>>>/sci/catalog

Browsing a board with it dulls the pain.

can someone help me out

why is there so much confusion about what turns women on

with men, we know its tits, ass, etc things like that

yet with women there's a whole bunch of shit. shit about status over looks, emotions, etc. what is the deal? isnt it a lot more simple than that? why so many convoluted explanations for what turns women on?

>>6054784
Post hasn't been found.
> tfw

>>6054788
Hmm, perhaps it's only a feature of the 4chan X add-on.
I don't remember the last time I browsed 4chan without it.

>>6054787
Another social idiot. THEY ARE BIOLOGICALLY PROGRAMMED TO LIE MORE AND (SOMEWHAT, BUT YEAH) BETTER. Also social predisposition and some other biological stuff make them feel they need to lie when it comes to intimate things.

TL;DR: Basically answering in a vague, wannalook-innocent style about what turns them on gets them off. That simple.

>>6054815
> tfw you need an add-on to find NOT off-topic threads on /sci/

Bump

>>6054820

But surely there are genuine differences between men and women when it comes to sexual arousal? Men and women have several physical and mental differences, obviously. It's not like sexual arousal works the same for both sexes.

>>6053965
>Statistically speaking, why there are seemingly less lesbians than [boy-]gays?
I have an even better question. Statistically speaking, why is 100% of transsexual porn shemale and only 0% hefemale?

Answer: because sex = dick. People who don't like dick, don't like sex, so no porn. All peverts and black people are gay. All normalfags and white people are lesbian.

>>6055104
A-fucking-gain: as I already established, women have more frequent and intensive urges in general. Why? Ask Darwin.
>>6055164
And now if we take into account, that lesbian is a particular case of gay...
MIND=BLOWN

>>6055176
>And now if we take into account, that lesbian is a particular case of gay...
>MIND=BLOWN

It's a matter of mending the caveman-era sexual terminology.

The lesbians that you are talking about might be not lesbian at all.

I'm commiting a practical cheapness by reclaiming the words "gay" and "lesbian" to suit my ends, but my abuse is no worse crime than their conventional use. "Homosexual" and "heterosexual" are... heterosexual concepts used to impose the heterosexual world order. If I wanted to be 100% precise, I should perhaps talk about "phallophile" instead of "gay" and "uterophile" instead of "lesbian".

I appreciate your analytical attempt.

>>6055021
Why even bump this. It's plain fucking obvious, the male physique is superior.

>>6055222
Then you'd have vaginas. Logical contradiction. Ha-ha, I won, lol.

>>6055222
>Why even bump this. It's plain fucking obvious, the male physique is superior.

Not really. I would say that male and female physiques are equally fucked up. Male genitals are very phallic but the rest of the male body – not so much. If you want to see a superior physique, see DmitrysFuta. Sadly, the nature (especially the Homo sapiens nature, or Yahweh) always strives to keep us frustrated and deprived. It's no different with sexuality. Therefore the human biology comes with an arsenal of barriers preventing DmitrysFuta from happening. The day we can break these barriers, we might conquer aging, illness, wars, poverty and death as well.

Not trying to spam DmitrysFuta, but it's very specific and it matches my discussed gender concept without flaw, unlike "transsexual", "shemale", "trap", "futanari" and a whole host of other terms that create confusion in >>>/d/. All hail Dmitrys for reading in my mind to invent the perfect gender.

>>6055277
TL;DR: THIS GUY IS A FAG.

>>6055204
I don't understand how heterosexual and homosexual to, I don't know, supress gays? It's a simple and practical distinction on which gender you prefer to mate with.

>>6055283
>TL;DR: THIS GUY IS A FAG.
TL;DNR that guy is a lesbian.

>>6055302
Don't bother, it's an addict probably.

>>6055270
>>6055277
Artificial wombs and infant formula.
>mammaries
>blood coming out of your perineum
>any year

>>6055326
Not any, there's "before" and "after" parts of life, which are grey in their meaningful depressionfulness though.

>>6055337
What?

>>6055302
>simple and practical
And useless. An intellectual burden slowing down free thinking.

And outright misleading. Because it:
1. reinforces culturally constructed genders:
>A man who likes men is homosexual but a woman isn't.
2. puts phallophiles and uterophiles in one bag, burying from view a difference vastly more important:
>A man who likes men and a woman who likes women = the same thing automatically.

>>6055324
>Don't bother, it's an addict probably.
At least I don't stink like you do.

>>6055364
Think of it in terms of + and -. Like oppositely charged particles of society. You know.

>>6055364
>2. puts phallophiles and uterophiles in one bag, burying from view a difference vastly more important:
>>A man who likes men and a woman who likes women = the same thing automatically.
which is entirely stupid, intellectually bankrupt even--along with being entirely untrue as well.

This is like trying to claim the false equality of the sexes in denial of all data to the contrary. Fucking about with labels and restricting speech will never get females to start growing larger in general and with larger muscles.

>>6055364
I mean:

1. reinforces culturally constructed genders:
>A man who likes men is something entirely different from a woman who likes men.

Greetings /sci/

I've exiled myself from /b/ in hopes of pursuing a higher education. I'm currently 24 years old and have started going over basic chemistry, biology, physics and mathematics textbooks.

After years of procrastinating I can't help but wonder if at this age my brain will be able to undertake a higher education.

I can see how this question stems from my years of procrastinating but would like to implore you for wisdom if my learning capacity is salvageable.

Thank you anons.

>>6055389
Learn how to create threads first. Your intellect is rising until you're 26, btw. But yeah, in your case I wouldn't bet on it. You were never good enough.

>>6055413
>>6055413
Yeh I did. Sorry I accidentally posted it here.

Wanted to post a reply however don't want to hijack this thread. Could you possibly chime in my other thread?

>>6055391

>>6055379
>the false equality of the sexes
The old sexes aren't equal.
But we make them so.

Not sure about the new sexes postulated by me, I think they could be inherently unequal, therefore more certain and relevant than the old sexes. But I'm not sure.

>>6055377
>Fucking about with labels and restricting speech will never get females to start growing larger in general and with larger muscles.
But it will. It's called "upbringing" and it does nearly all the difference.

In my belief, existing data has been negatively selected to prove the dominating world view. Although there are some data supporting my view, they are scarce and often anecdotal. Yes, my conviction is driven by faith in addition to facts. Science without faith would stagnate. Your conviction, on the other hand, is marked by a shortage of scepticism for existing evidence.

>>6055489
>But we make them so.
But we make them unequal.

Fixed.

I'm pretty sure that there are more bisexual or lesbian girls than bisexual or gay guys. This is well-explained by social pressure for guys to be more homophobic than girls.

If there are more strictly gay guys than strictly lesbian girls (a fact of which I am unconvinced, but do not know enough about to comment) then it would probably be a mostly cultural phenomenon as the cultural factors in difference in attitudes towards sex is (at this point in time) much more important than biological factors (point-in-case: the continuing and uneven rapid evolution in normal sexual behaviors in men and women)

I must go.

Good night, Anonymous.

Sleep well and ejaculate,

Bump in hope for science itt

come on

>>6053965
Because most engineers are male.

>>6056582
But then by the similar logic most feminists are female. What group is more major?

>>6056640
>doesn't know being an engineer and sucking dick go hand in hand
>relates this to feminism somehow

You're clearly not from /sci/, gb2 /r9k/.

what do female scientists say about their own sexualities? do they "lie" as well, as some people in this thread have claimed women do?

>>6057917
>doesn't know being a feminist and licking cunt go hand in hand
>insults on the basis of ignorance somehow

You're clearly have been reading to much /sci.

>>6057935
Unless they are the ones conducting the research. Then it's very simple really: they just find any woman who lied and write down their real answer instead of hers.
Why did you put quotes on "lie"? You don't think it can be considered a lie? It's a falsification or hiding of an information which is critical for science at the moment of questioning. Any lie here is more damaging globally than most of the everyday lies.

>>6057935
You really believe 30- to 70- percent of schoolgirls masturbate? For boys it's pretty much close to the truth: 90+ to 99- or so.

God created women for men. Why would a man go with another man? Its degeneracy.

>>6058225
Women are not evenly distributized among men. Hence gays. Lesbians are not REALLY lesbians, they just act when they fuck with another women to please men.

>>6053965
show me the citation for your statistics, because anecdotally, I've met about equal numbers of both...

>>6053965
well, for some reason it seems like sexuality is more of a choice with girls, I know a few girls that have experimented with other girls and are not gay. I know one girl that claims to be a lesbian but all the way to her twenties she had like 3 boyfriends (it seems to me like she just got tired of boys and decided to switch).
you hear of a lot of guy's that can't face the fact that they're gay and live an unhappy marriage or end up killing themselves, but I've never heard of a woman who has done that

>>6058238
Seems logical accounting social pressure. Then there should be more open lesbs than gays? But is there?

>>6058234
How many?

>>6058246
all I'm saying is that it seems like more of a choice to them, because it seems like instead of moping about being gay and not fitting in they just decide to be straight (seems like to me) it also seems like there are much more girls that are bisexuals than men. like they have an easier time just deciding their sexuality. men have testosterone that drives them towards the sex they like more while girls don't have as much of a sex drive pulling them in either direction

>>6058220

That is easy to believe. What, you expect both genders to have the same amount of masturbation habits?

>>6053965

Like many developmental disorders, homosexuality is not evenly divided between sexes. Same as there are more male autists than females, and somewhat more female borderline personality disorder cases than female.

>>6058272
I think it's possible with every natural to turn him/her bisexual. And even more so with gay people. Now the reason boy-gays aren't just bi because:
1. Women require some work to give it, even lesbians; that is not so with men. *Social pressure is that strong.*
2. Men like to show off, which is often the case with gaymen. *Gender instincts are yet stronger.*
Then the question becomes: what's the percentages of bisexuals of each gender?

>>6058276
Cheap shot: you're a virgin, right?

>>6053981

>some women are asexual, or have very low sex drives.

Right, mentally ill.

Men need to fuck. Either they fuck women or men. There are very very few gay men who are 100% bottoms.

Women need to be fucked. It can be done by another woman with certain tools, but it's not as satisfying as a real penis. I've occasionally had sex with girls whom I've known to be lesbians, but I won't do that again because it made me feel weird. I felt like they were using me as a living dildo.

>>6058315
virgin fantasist detected

>>6058315
> I felt like they were using me as a living dildo.
Reality check: all women tend to do this. Unless she gets money from you.

>>6058309

No. I just don't understand why it's so hard to believe that females tend to masturbate less.

Years and years of research show that women just are not as horny as guys are and do not care as much about having sex. Of course they still care a lot, but sex is "something women have that men want".

>>6058391
Ok, you're being ridiculous. Troll or naive liar (about virginity) or autistic prostitute user or a woman.

>>6058398

No, really, it's simply logic.

Males and females have different biology. It stands to reason they would have different sexual impulses.

>>6058442
Except it's in favour for females shlicking more. They probably do shlick more. Just like they do lose their virginities LOTS OF TIMES more than males at the age before 17-18.