/sci/ - Science & Math

Yes, but I think you forgot psychology between mathematics and physics.

>>5907519
Looks good but Psychology should be in between Math and Physics

>>5907519
You missed the rest of the sentence:

Engineering>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4chan

I honestly don't see why anyone would care how pure your field is. Who really gives a shit?

Although I'm an eng. major and I'll admit that OP's right about the cleverness of people who go in. The most autist people go for maths, then physics and so on (missing out biology because it's girls.) Engineering is full of people who think calc 2 is actually a conspiracy to make them fail university

>>5907579
I won't even try to ask you what you think about philosophy majors...

>>5907579
It's not about purity, is about which field test your intelligence and mightiness the most.

At the end you should add >>>>>>>>>>>>CS

>>5907624
True computer science is pretty hard, I'm not talking about computer engineering or that bullshit where they teach you to "design" in UML and program in Java.

gender studies should be before physics

>>5907630
>that bullshit where they teach you to "design" in UML and program in Java.

That's computer science. What you're referring to as "true computer science" is in fact an application of math not amenable to CS students or graduates.

>>5907720
Uh, no?

>>5907519
Chem and Bio above engineering?

Hahaha.

Just remember a liberal arts degree from Stanford/Princeton is better than a stem degree from shit state u.

Real life math majors.

http://math.stanford.edu/photos/students/index.html

This is stupid. 99% of maths undergrads are at shitty state "universities" or CC. 99% of people who got in for chem/bio/engineering/physics could have done maths if they wanted to. It is just a question of applying yourself.

/sci/'s definition of "intelligence" is pretty much "how much maths do you do", which is stupid and probably just a coping mechanism for their own inadequacies.

>i do maths at cc, but at least it isn't biology
>i'm smart, honest

>>5909119
>Just remember a liberal arts degree from Stanford/Princeton is better than a stem degree from shit state u.
so much this

>>5907519
biologist detected

>>5907519
I would say

Physics and applied math >>>>>> Pure math>>> Chemistry>>> Electrical engineering >>> Biology >>> Other engineering

Pure math is just making up arbitrary bullshit and then proving arbitrary theorems from that arbitrary shit you made up. It's not that difficult unless you're trying to prove the Riemann hypothesis or something. Applied math can overlap with theoretical physics (because of mathematical physics).

Biology is cool but it doesn't require as much time and effort as physics and math.

>>5909127
>/sci/'s definition of "intelligence" is pretty much "how much maths do you do"

Well, how much math DO you do?

>>5910310
All of it.

>>5911930
That must be a lot of work.

>>5909094
Undergrad at Waterloo here.
Computer Science is a very real thing, it's a department in the faculty of mathematics.
Once you start in complexity and learn about formal languages and such, you realize how hard some of these CS subjects are.
And there is really nothing else but "Computer Science" that they can be called in math.

>>5913013
>Once you start in complexity and learn about formal languages and such, you realize how hard some of these CS subjects are.

Your shallow CS tier introduction to the topic is the opposite of "hard". If you fail at such a low level, it only demonstrates your own lack of intelligence.

>>5907519

0/10

Chem E w/ applied math minor here, your chart is based off math purity, I do a fuck ton more math than any chemistry or biology majors. I also need to learn about 50 different fields.

>inbr applied math isn't really math

>>5909094
Nah, you are high. Where I study that's not the case at all. Computer science is more mathematics than anything. Look up chaitin, kolmogorov, etc.

>>5907519
>Biology


HAHAHAHAHA no

>>5909094
You go try and learn Assemble language and apply and then come back to tell us how elementary CS is

>>5914340
But I thought CS was about "math" and not about programming? ;)
And btw I looked into assembler languages when I was a teenager. Nothing special.

>>5914361
>looked into assembler languages

clearly you know nothing. it takes years to master a programming language

>>5914371
Have fun with your low tier code monkey work which will be outsourced to third world countries.

>>5914295
He's saying that it should be more math based, but most CS programs teach "how to be a code monkey." You are correct in that CS should be more mathematics than anything else.

>>5914340
but assembly is elementary. there are only like 4 commands after all. jelly that I can command thousands of lines of assembly with a single function in java?

If I'm an engineering physics major, where does that put me?

>>5914387
what the hell is an engineering physics major?

>>5914405
probably some new age shit about seeing everything as little dots, voxel based maths and all that.

Does anyone have that video of that pony tail'd guy talking about how he had discovered a ToE and that everything seen from afar seemed like a point and that was the key to everything.

>>5914405
I engineer physics, duh.
>>5914412
Nah, it's basically a mechanical engineering degree. That's just what my school is accredited for at the moment, they're switching the name of the program to mechanical engineering around the time I graduate.

>>5909094
>"true computer science" not amenable to CS students or graduates

0/10

>>5914418
you can't 'engineer physics'. physics is a discipline of study not an object

>>5914428
Do you have jokes in your country?

>>5914431
ich komme aus deutschland. so nein

>>5914433

>>5907519
>Biology>Eng

top lel

These threads seriously crack me up. I hope 70% people of people in here are trolling.

>>5914437
just don't take them seriously

>>5914437
based on the "level of sophistication and cleverness each field's arguments possess" any science is superior to plug and chug bullshit that engineering is.

I like how you didn't even need to mention geology because it's so obviously better than everything else.

>tfw Finance major

I figured out in highschool that I couldn't keep up with the asians in sciences, figured there was no point pursuing my then-field of Chem

>>5907532
this is the funniest post in the history of 4chan

>>5909127
>maths
kill yourself

>>5914645
ameritard detected.
I'd tell you to kill yourself too but your government or fellow amerifats will probably do it for you.

>>5914645
Do you walk around saying "I study mathematic" or "He studies physic" or "She studies economic" too? Do you just causally leave out the "s" when you speak? Silly pleb.

>>5909127
>>maths
>implying mathematics is plural
>implying abbreviations of the form bioly make sense

>>5914660
You should learn some basic English.

>>5914972
clearly, you're too stupid to understand colloquial expressions

>>5914629
>All dem Asians in finance
I think you're still fucked

>>5914976
I think there's a different group he has to worry about in finance.

Math >= CS > Physics > chem > engineering > shit > bio > ACM.

>>5914996
CS > Physics

Calm down now.

>>5915042
>>5914996
As a CS major it's nice to finally get some appreciation around here, even if it is done in jest.

>>5915056
I don't think you got my point.

>>5914992

>>5907519
Physics>>>Math>>>Engineering>>>CS>>>Geology>>>Biology>>>Psychology>>>

>>5915063
I guess not?

Logic > Mathematics > Everything else

my field >>>>>>>>>> everyone else's' field

/thread

>>5915074
You're too cute.
Try some real math and come back.

>>5914992
Oy vey! It's like another Sh'oah!

>>5915078
but math is logic

>>5907519

No... Because that's fucking retarded, OP.

>>5907519
>Mathematics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physics

Only if you get a PhD. Anything less than that and the two should be switched.

>>5907519
OP at PhD level all science and Engineering fields converge and the difference is not really that significant. Every is subjective, what is grading criteria?

>>5909097

Check ur privilege

>>5909119

Holy shit. It's like looking at a webpage about the dangers of using meth.

>>5907519

>Subjective philosophical notions regarding the superiority/inferiority of a variety of scientific fields.

> Fails to acknowledge that they are codependent and vary in usefulness from situation to situation.

> False dichotomies and pissing contests inevitablty ensue.

>>5909119
>http://math.stanford.edu/photos/students/index.html

>see a bunch of average looking people.

> a bit skinny usually due to sedentary major


Yawn.

Any group of photos of people who aren't politicians/celebrities/attention whores/demagogues is bound to look hideous in the eyes of a person who is use to only looking at /b/ porn roulettes.

>>5914236

> hideously judgmental

> if you don't get 'A' then you must just be 'B'.

> fails to realize the number of factors that goes into any given person's education.

> what if shitty teachers/loud class/incidental brain damage.

> In short, I think nothing is more socially unintelligent than a person using their understanding of a subject to make someone else feel bad, instead of helping them.

>>5914377

some vicious people itt

>>5914645

It's a linguistic convention that varies in different countries.

Who gives a shit

I don't care that I left off the question mark either

or the period

Tesla was an engineer
y/y

i thought engineers were mathematicians.

>>5915987

engineers can do math, but they aren't mathematicians

>>5916004
>engineers can do math

No, they can't. They are trained to use a calculator. That's not math.

>>5914992

Blacks?

>>5909210
>implying nuclear/chem/mech engineering is any worse than EE

I study EE, and let me tell you it isn't.

>>5916030
lold

>>5914976
Doing pretty well in my classes so far actually, a lot of Asians in finance but they can't understand the social aspects for shit, only the math. Helps that I'm minoring in Econ too I guess.

>>5916143
How hard is the math in finance?

god this board is slow;not pruned after 5 days

>>5917520
no it's simply because there is a female anon bumpspammer that chooses to keep threads alive by posting nonsense in them twice per day

>>5917525
And the unhinged lunatic continues to aggressively shout the same delusional and senile nonsense after being uniformly proven wrong in every point. Can we not just agree that this poster is insane and have them banned?

>>5917525
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

>things you can do with a math degree
Teach and...?

My Math major friends are some of the most useless people I know.

>Mathematics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physics >> Chemistry >>>> Biology >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Engineering
please leave the board and never come back

>Math.
The study of imaginary numbers, ergo, the study of math. Equally as useless as it is imaginary.

>The study of physics.
The study of motion and observable reality.

>Chemistry
The study of chemical reacts and observable reality.

>Biology.
The study of organisms and life, as well as the observable reality of such.

>Psychology
The study of the process by which all of these studies are made.

So basically ...

... maths is pure uselessness.

Chemistry is first

>>5920705

Financial engineering is the pinnacle of usefulness--at least within the realms of man made constructs. And that's essentially a math degree with a little bit of finance.

>>5920705
Mathematics has applications.

It isn't a question of purity.

It's a question of how intellectually demanding the thing is.

Maths is peerless. maths is pure problem solving.

Mathematicians are basically superhumans who exist on a higher plane that mere mortals can only catch glimpses of.

Compared to them your brain is primitive garbage.

>>5915987
in France and some places in Europe, they are.

Not in the anglosphere.

>>>>>>> Engineering
Say that to my electric engineering faculty and not online and see what happens.

>>5909127
>99% of people who got in for chem/bio/engineering/physics could have done maths if they wanted to
funny thing that all the guys, that dropped out of mathematics in my semester that are now doing other stem degrees get way better grades than before and have no problems at all.

Time to piss off /sci/

>>5921469
Not as bad as this one

/sci/ - My major is better than yours

>>5921525
Mine is better.

>>5921504

Guess who gets to regulate the amount of anesthesia in patients in a couple of hours?

I hope it's one of you elitists so I can say that your life is in my hands and the hands of the surgeon.

Biology>>>Chenistry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Engineering>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mathematics

In terms of least to most autistic.

>>5922337

>>5922569
toplul

This.

as far as we know, all fields are equal in complexity. This is clear from the fact that we are not done studying anything, and we have not reached virtual omniscience within the domain of any field of study.
Thusly, the scientific integrity of a science is determined solely by the nature of practice, a.k.a., by the practitioner.

>>5922583
You're pretty fucking stupid, guy.

>>5922588
> I don't like that
> I'll insult you

Is this 4chan? The background's blue, so....nope, /sci/

>>5909210
>implying math takes any effort

>>5922588
Im not your guy, buddy.

>>5922595
How to suppose you're going to measure complexity?

>>5907519
As a physics major I'd agree to this, but remove some of the greater thans between math and physics, maybe only like 7 or 6 of them.

>>5922599
I'm not your buddy, buddy.

>>5922596
There is a lot of strain on the muscles when entering symbols into a calculator.

>>5922626
I disagree. He should add more of the greater than symbols.

Biology major, Chemistry minor, working at an Engineering internship.

I'd say OP is accurate. Some say engineering is hard, and it is, but in the real world the actual work you do as an engineer is simple shit. At my job some of the most complex stuff I do would look retarded to a major in that field. It's nothing compared to the shit a chemist or biologist does. Laboratory standards and experience/knowledge may even be an even greater factor more for Biology than Chemistry.

>>5922561
This is also true.

>>5907519
biology, atleast in human standard, surpases all of that with the tiniest shread of common sense, which you would have if you likely wernt a mathematician so, no.

>>5924293
So what do you do as an intern?

>>5915074
Mah nigger

>>5924333
Trips confirm Physics to be the best field

Ah, pure mathematics. Feels good, man.

>>5907519
>ranking the level of sophistication and cleverness each field's arguments possess , right?

You don't understand the purpose of engineering, do you?

The only "argument" produced by engineering is the type that's currently facilitating this conversation.

>>5924333
>>5924335
confirmed for imbiciles trying to deny non-relitivity and the equallity of things being the strangest field to play

Scientists are just mad that they have no jobs.

I should know ;_;

>>5914629
I think you fail to realize that the Asians aren't intrinsically better, they just tend to work harder. Just remember, there's a reason the West forced modernization on the East.

>>5924356
>You don't understand the purpose of engineering, do you?

Engineering was never meant to be sophisticated.

>>5924319
A mix of mechanical and chemical engineering mainly. I work in an industrial setting.
I imagine civil and electrical or biomedical may be more difficult or complex, but what I'm getting at is that most stuff in engineering has already been established as a standard or specification because it's already been done a million times over. Pretty much all you need to know how to do is read an instruction manual, even for the hard stuff.

>>5924417
>being this in denial

>>5925639
That doesn't really answer what I'm asking. You're an intern, so what do they make you do?

>>5907579
But Calc 2 is just convergence test, muh polar/parametric coordinates again, and a few parlor tricks.

>>5925696
I spend some time in a lab testing water samples, basic shit like simple titrations and dip slides. I also go around the floor and kind of inspect flow rates and energy efficiency. Water treatment is a big part of it. It's kind of hard to explain if you don't already know a bit about it.

>>5915070
Why does /sci/ hate my Jewish blood?

>>5909119
>math
Pic related was the best physics student graduating this year at UCSB.

>mfw UCSB is top 10 physics
>mfw I'm going there
>mfw no 50k dollar tuition

>>5914996
>>5915042
>>5915056

biology is fundamentally harder than physics (way more complex systems), which is why it's done so badly

>>5907553
>maths is the most mathematic field

WHAT AN AMAZING INSIGHT

>>5909094

That's software engineering, not computer science. They don't teach UML or any of that shit in CS, only in SENG. Stop confusing the two.