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5910736 No.5910736[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

#truth

>> No.5910739

But he thought about the entire context of the problem as well as the implications of the discovery rationally. A small, safe, synaptic jump is all you need.

>> No.5910951

Except he didn't. He made his discoveries by intuition and he was too mathematically impaired to write down his theory without the help of mathematicians.

>> No.5910960

>>5910951
Except he did. His intuition was rational and developed based on rational observation, thought process, and reasoning.

>> No.5911979 [DELETED] 

>>5910960
>His intuition was rational

Intuition is the opposite of rationality.

>> No.5911993

this quote probably saved my life

>> No.5912000

>>5911979
Not always, You can make very rational decisions based on intuition, but you might not know why you made them.

You can also make terrible decisions based on intuition. It depends if the situation calls on it.

>> No.5912004

>>5911979
Don't be stupid. An intuition can be rational or irrational, it just depends whether there is concious reasoning.

>> No.5912007

like, you know, proofs are originally nothing more than thought experiments?

and any, even highly formal thought, is just a realization of a pre-conscious (hence irrational) thinking?

>> No.5912010

>>5910736
Yeah, he made them by plagiarizing

>> No.5912015

Once Jacob Barnett's theories are fully realized, it will prove Einstein to be the hack he truly was.

>> No.5912019

Einstein quotes aren't that great, IMHO.

>> No.5912026

>>5910951

You have no idea what you're talking about, stop posting

>> No.5912940

>>5912026
Nice projection - did you fail the history course in middle school?

>> No.5912958

>>5912940
You don't know what projection means. Stop posting.

>> No.5914277 [DELETED] 

>>5912958
She identified the projection correctly.

>> No.5914279

>>5914277
the bumpspammer always comes every day at around 5:30-6:30 CST. and always says 'she' when referring to fellow anons

>> No.5914285

>>5914279

that's a meme

"Science is a girl thing"

There is no bumpspammer.

>> No.5914294

>>5914285
that person clearly did it by posting uselessly with a 16 hour bump

if science is such a girl thing why are there so many prominent male scientists?

>> No.5914307
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>>5914294
>dat tired old argument referring to time periods when women couldn't even leave the house without being babysat
toplel

>> No.5914581

>>5912015
what? what does everyone on here have against Einstein? or are you just an edgy teen trying to look cool since you hate Einstein?

>> No.5914605

>>5914581
There are very few instances where newfriends bring me joy. This is one of them.

>> No.5914610

>>5912007
btw we are born with full knowledge of the world in the geometry of our bodies which the Demiurg provided to us and indeed we not learn but remember something we already knew.

Not even joking plebs

>> No.5914965

>>5914610
Please scientifically verify this.

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5914987

>>5914294
>Woman
>Turing Award

Where is your god now?

>> No.5915008

>>5912958
>>5914277
MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS

Fuck bumpspamming.

>> No.5915010

>>5914987
wow, one woman. you really impressed me

>> No.5915246

>>5915010
There were two girls who won a google science award posted on here. Plus nearly 50% of science competition winners are girls so really theyre not too bad. We just need to get more girls interested at a young age.Plus you are missing the point of the entire meme...

>> No.5915250

>>5914987

That's easily the most jewish name I've ever seen.

>> No.5915253

>>5915008

reed the rulz agin

>> No.5915287

>>5914987
She probably has more testosterone than I do.

>> No.5915348

http://www.society-for-philosophy-in-practice.org/index.php/ppbook-review-archive/26-pp-reviews-general-philosophy/114-rationality-in-action-by-john-r-searle

>> No.5916160 [DELETED] 

>>5915348
This is a science board. Philosophy belongs on /lit/.

>> No.5917519 [DELETED] 

>>5914987
What did she do?

>> No.5917537
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5917537

#truth

>> No.5919135

>>5916160
Philosophy is a science.

>> No.5920549 [DELETED] 

>>5919135
No, it does not use the scientific method.

>> No.5920553

>>5920549
Define scientific method.

>> No.5920583

>>5919135
no but science is a philosophy

>> No.5921229

>>5920549
It does. Read through each step and you will see that philosophy conforms to all of them.

>> No.5921270

>>5921229
No it only does two steps and it does them out of order, first it creates a hypothesis, then it selects some real world observations that support that hypothesis, but there is no further objective analytical peer review because there are no falsifiable real world philosophy experiments that can be repeated and adjusted using objective standardized physical phenomena.

>> No.5922264 [DELETED] 

>>5920583
Science is the opposite of philosophy.

>> No.5922266

>>5920553
>Define scientific method.
A method of describing reality exclusively using empirical observation.

>> No.5922269

>>5919135
>Philosophy is a science.
No, the scientific method is a branch of philosophy.

>> No.5922287

>>5921229
>It does. Read through each step and you will see that philosophy conforms to all of them.
Which area of philosophy? Ontology? epistemology? metaphysics? Philosophy describes what science doesn't or can't, and it discusses second level linguistics above the empirical events that science describes.

Take a philosophical field like Ethics. Science can describe an event. It can say a titanium blade seems to have punctured the left lung – it can discuss the material event and scrutinise every physical detail. Philosophy is looking at the event and asking "Is that act something we should tolerate as a social ideal?" "Is the inter-subjective moral view towards the act more right than the individual?" "Is ending a life noble it it benefits a great many people?"

Science just describes the material; philosophy treats those descriptions as 'abstractions' and discusses the abstractions instead.

>> No.5922302

>>5914987
>dat barack obama face

>> No.5923168

>>5922269
Science has nothing to do with baseless spiritualism drivel.

>> No.5923465

>>5923168
The scientific method is a branch of philosophy.

>Philosophy: baseless spiritualism drivel.
Do you even read?

>> No.5923468

Arthur C. Clarke said it better.

>The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

>> No.5924265 [DELETED] 

>>5923465
>Do you even read?

I read science and math books. I don't have the time for pseudo-intellectual edgy teenager philosophy.

>> No.5924353

>>5910736
#bullshit
you cant handle it.
Right now.
That's Einstien gurl!

>> No.5924358

>>5924265
I am willing to bet you read

applied math books
and
applied science books

and not pure math or science books.

>> No.5924380

>>5910736
lol
oh god I hope nobody posts that pic on facebook

>> No.5924391

This thread gave me cancer.

>> No.5924399

Nobody ever did. Every rational decision we make has some underlying emotion and instinct behind it

>> No.5924401

Prediction the procession of the perihelion of Mercury was nothing but a case of linearalising GR (weak field approximation), plugging in some numbers and solving some diffy qs!
That's almost mechanical - totally rational. Of course first deriving GR was much more of a leap.

>> No.5924409

>>5915246
>science competition
>anything more than route memorization to helps girls feel better about themselves

toppest lel

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>>5910736

>> No.5924418

>>5922266
>"Define the scientific method"
>"It's a method"

You're a fucking idiot.

>> No.5924447

>>5924418
1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.

>> No.5925581 [DELETED] 

>>5924447
I wish more posters on /sci/ understood this.

>> No.5926540 [DELETED] 

>>5924447
quoted for truth

>> No.5926556

Wow, some posters did take the image seriously.
I guess there are autists in /sci/ after all.

>> No.5927427

>>5924447
I fucking love science.

>> No.5929096 [DELETED] 

>>5926556
The image is very serious. That's why OP called it truth.

>> No.5930822 [DELETED] 

Thank you. I didn't know this.

>> No.5932153

>>5926540
No, you mean quantum field theory.

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5932156

>>5926556
>And I am different because of muh original post

>> No.5933598 [DELETED] 

>>5932153
No, I didn't mean quantum field theory.

>> No.5934709 [DELETED] 

> #truth

The tripcode belongs in the name field, not in the comment.

>> No.5935858 [DELETED] 

Saved for reposting.

>> No.5937443 [DELETED] 

Is it true or a joke?

>> No.5939303 [DELETED] 

>>5937443
It is true.

>> No.5940535 [DELETED] 

>>5937443
Why not both?

>> No.5940542

>>5934709

The White Zone is for loading and unloading only.

>> No.5940561

>>5940542
No, the RED courtesy phone.

>> No.5942486 [DELETED] 

>>5940542
I do not understand.

>> No.5944367 [DELETED] 

>>5940561
You are making no sense.

>> No.5945603

>>5944367
No, waiting 22 hours to bump nonsense you don't understand that is about to expire and go away makes no sense.

>> No.5946483 [DELETED] 

>>5945603
Please explain. I want to learn.

>> No.5946500

>>5914987

Affirmative Action.

>> No.5946524
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5946524

Einstein's brain was different

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-11-26/national/35507509_1_brain-neurons-parietal-lobes

>> No.5946527

>>5946524
>spoilers
Go back to /r9k/

>> No.5946531

>>5946527
no

>> No.5946543

>>5946531
You can go complain about your lack of a bf there.

>> No.5946552

>>5946543
you lookin for a date

>> No.5946553

>>5946552
>being a tranny

>> No.5946562
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5946562

>>5946553
>implying I even know who you think you're talking to right now

>> No.5946568

>>5946562
What are you talking about? Am I really this interesting that you keep responding to me?

>> No.5946570

>>5946568
This board is a ghost town, broham.

>> No.5946573

>>5946570
Fine, then. So are you a tranny or not?

>> No.5946581

>>5946573
No. I don't even know why you brought that up. I was spoilering ironically

>> No.5947781 [DELETED] 

>>5946581
Why would you do that?

>> No.5949180 [DELETED] 

>>5946568
>Am I really this interesting that you keep responding to me?

Yes, you are.

>> No.5950959 [DELETED] 

>implying Einstein made any discoveries

He only summarized the thoughts of other people. The principles of relativity were known earlier. Einstein only gave a name to them.

>> No.5953236 [DELETED] 

>>5950959
This.

Einstein is too overrated.

>> No.5954437

>>5910736
>#truth

No, it's an admission that Relativity is not Rational.

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5954457

>>5910736
it's quantum physics i ain't gotta explain shit

>> No.5955963 [DELETED] 

>>5954437
Is it irrational?

>> No.5956810

>>5955963
Honestly, from the bottom of my heart, you should kill yourself.

>> No.5956918 [DELETED] 

>>5956810
Why would I do that?

>> No.5956922

>>5955963

It's transcendental.

>> No.5956960

>>5956918
To make the world a better place

>> No.5957313 [DELETED] 

>>5956960
I am already making the world a better place by being helpful.

>> No.5957335

>>5957313
helping the world be a terribly ignorant place isn't making the world a better place, just let your lame thread die, then you follow suit

>> No.5959274

Obviously true, OP. Einstein had to rely on intuition becauce he sucked at math.