/sci/ - Science & Math

It's a boson, not a particle.

>>5877586
A boson is an elementary particle retard

>>5877586
bosons are particles without spin

>>5876410
no, they have integer spins.

>>5877595
maybe, but the higgs is not a real boson

If it was nothing, it wouldn't be a particle.

>>5877883
Zero is not an integer.

>>5876410
biologist detected

>>5881769
Not OP here, but can you explain the consequences of discovering the Higgs boson?

>>5882070
Suggests the standard model is pretty good and we are heading in a good direction with theory

>>5882070
Possibility that maybe, one day, we can manipulate mass.

Also suggestion that we are doing good with theoretical physics.

>>5882079
Not totally correct. The "standard" standard model is already fucked up, because neutrinos should not have mass according to it, but we already discovered that they do have it.

>>5879982
If it were nothing*

>>5882115
>Possibility that maybe, one day, we can manipulate mass.
How might we accomplish this?

>>5882115
>Possibility that maybe, one day, we can manipulate mass.
like a weight loss drug?

>>5882115
Higgs Boson only gives mass to leptons by electroweak symmetry breaking. Electrons are basically massless when compared to a nucleus. Using the Higgs Boson for hypothetical mass-manipulation would be useless, unless you used it as a weapon. This of course depends on whether or not one could alter the coupling strength of the Higgs Boson to the Higgs field.

>>5882797
>unless you used it as a weapon.
what would this weapon do?

>>5882805
Altering the mass of the electron would effectively change the size of the atom, I guess you could make it so low that entire structures just fall apart simply from thermal motion due to the forces between atoms being so diffuse.

>>5882785
>>5882779
What I meant was explained well by >>5882797

>>5882797
How would we artificially produce Higgs Bosons for use as a weapon?

And would it have any other uses? Perhaps it could be used to decrease or increase the mass of whole atoms, not just the electrons?

bump

>>5882785
A weight loss drug would be a very useful application of the Higgs boson theory. It would justify spending billions of moneys on finding the Higgs.

>>5882820
Or, heck, induced electron capture and a fuckload of gamma rays (particularly with all that extra mass becoming energy). Like a nuclear bomb.

Why do entire galaxies gravitate around supermassive blackholes, and some smaller blackholes gravitate around the center of the galaxy without making a "new galaxy" for themselves?
Does gravity varies depending on how much mass the blackhole has?

>>5884616
I didn't mean to post this here, but as a new post. how do i delete it?

>>5884618
button at the bottom right of the page

>>5884623
thank you anon

>>5884176

You didn't hear this from me but...

...It may already be possible to do that by "dressing" the mass of an electron in condensed matter with holes and other electrons, forming a plasmon that gives the electron enough energy to participate k-capture. Increasing the "effective" mass of the electron this way may cause Compton scattering to prevent gammas from escaping from the bulk material, though.

Don't quote me on this.

>>5884636
>Don't quote me on this.
You should not, as you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Bumping for answers from someone who actually knows what they are talking about.

>>5886123
Why did you post it on /sci/ if that's what you're looking for?

>>5886123
What would you like answered?

>>5886123
>actually knows what they are talking about

It is a fact that God doesn't exist.
Is there anything else I can help you with?

>>5886136
Because /sci/ is the most intelligent board on 4chan.

Someone has been keeping at least 35 threads alive
by bumping them twice a day. Compare the post times of
>>5877586 >>5878837 >>5879982 >>5880656 >>5882779 >>5884168
>>5884860 >>5886123 >>5887324 >>5888724
to the post times in other threads.
It's clear most of these are the same person.
The threads being bumped:
>>5858447 >>5861383 >>5862983 >>5863249 >>5865823 >>5866853
>>5867452 >>5867640 >>5868097 >>5868460 >>5868538 >>5869504
>>5869595 >>5869759 >>5869946 >>5872951 >>5873166 >>5873829
>>5874378 >>5874727 >>5875025 >>5876410 >>5876819 >>5878449
>>5878607 >>5878684 >>5878722 >>5880041 >>5880453 >>5880775
>>5881738 >>5883998 >>5884116 >>5884625 >>5885545
Write to moot@4chan.org if you want it to stop.

>>5888724
I thought this was awarded to /lit/.

>>5882874
The only way to produce a Higgs Boson is through high energy collisions at the moment, and altering the coupling strength would entail energies on the GEV scale.

>>5888724
>>5889548
/lit/ wins because there are fewer undergraduates looking for homework help.

>>5889347
How did you make that chart? That's really interesting.

Someone do an FFT of that.

>>5890067
https://mega.co.nz/#!4BdT3bja!OIoZvn6zosuYZj1-6nN1ZEt4UzQPAEHWp1qpQ5vBjp0

>>5890119
Thanks anon!

It almost looks like he's picking up new threads as he goes along. Any speculation on why?

>>5890119
>not commenting your code

Did you fail CS 101?

>>5890672
Not him, but it's pretty straightforward even without comments.

>>5890066
But like /sci/, /lit/ still falls for both the homework and blatant troll threads.

>>5891389
We don't fall for homework threads. That implies that we're deceived by them.

Homework threads are obvious as shit. We answer because we're vain and like to show off.

>>5891759
>We don't fall for homework threads.
>That implies that we're deceived by them.

If you were deceived by them, you would fall for them.

>>5891759
>We answer because we're vain and like to show off.
/sci/ also likes to show off by attempting undergraduate / high school homework.

>>5891759
>We answer because we're vain and like to show off

speak for yourself, i just like the practice.

>>5893817
You enjoy practicing calculus? Why? We have calculators for such trivialities. Try to do some real math.

>>5891759
I actually answer question-threads (if I can) because I truly want to help other /sci/ bros out and would expect them to do the same for me.
The only questions I don't answer are the ones where OP doesn't put in any effort or if it's very basic highschool stuff. I feel like that's a good general rule. I'm a bit pissed at (some people on) /sci/'s attitude towards people asking science/math/engineering related questions on a science board. God forbid that there's some actual science posted between all these retarded philosophy, meta-science and life@uni threads.

>>5894930
all math is addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. if you are practicing those 4 core things, everything else kind of falls into place.

>>5894930
How do you fit all that elitism in your edginess?

>>5894977
How am I elitist just for having graduated high school?

>>5894969

Pretty much everything can be done with addition at the lowest level of decomposition, and everyone knows subtraction is addition with flipped sign on real numbers.

>>5895748
>Pretty much everything can be done with addition at the lowest level of decomposition

You can't do multiplication this way.

>>5895748
Does this mean there is a grand unified theory of the +, - \times, and \div charges?

>>5897792
There will never be one because the absence of <span class="math">\div[/spoiler] charge implies division by zero.

>>5880656
It is. Z = ... -2, -2, 0, 1, 2 etc.
>>5882797
>Higgs Boson only gives mass to leptons by electroweak symmetry breaking
Nope, all fermions and the weak bosons acquire mass through the Higgs mechanism.
>>5889347
QQ