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Philosophical question:

You are scheduled to endure an extremely painful experience with no lasting physical effects.

However, you are guaranteed not to remember the event after it has occurred.

Should you worry about going through it?

>> No.5855424

yes because it will hurt

>> No.5855425

>>5855424
But you won't remember it. Which is equivalent to it never having happened.

>> No.5855426

Is there some sort of incentive?

>> No.5855430

>>5855425
you're an idiot

>> No.5855431

>>5855426
I don't think it changes whether or not you should worry about the experience, but sure, let's say you're getting teeth pulled and gums sliced open, with no anesthetic.

>> No.5855432

>>5855430
>>5855424
What a clever argument.

>> No.5855438

On a related note,

Should you feel bad hurting someone if they're guaranteed not to remember it?

>> No.5855436

>>5855432
I'm not interested in being clever and sounding intellectual. I'm saying what's real and true.

>> No.5855444

>>5855436
Do you look back and regret doing things in the past that you don't remember?

Spend half a second analyzing the situation before you brush it off.

There's a clear conflict here: as you approach the event from the past, and experience it, you are correct in being anxious.

However, as you look back into the past after the event, whatever happened is completely irrelevant, because you won't even remember it.

>> No.5855442

op pls really ? did you even think about your post before you made this thread ?

its nothing philosophical about it, yes one should worry because it will hurt. you don't need no memory to feel direct nerves impulses

>> No.5855455

Of course you do, and people do every day, it's vital to human life. It's called childbirth, and it evolved in such a way that women don't really recall how terribly painful it was, and are inclined to subject themselves to it repeatedly if necessary.

>> No.5855453

I get the point of the question, but I would rather ask what memory means for our identity and how what we remember and forget means for who and what we are, because that's scary.

In the interest of being technical though, to answer the question, I'd say you should be worried before because it is going to hurt and worried during because it is hurting but not worried after because it doesn't matter. The situation is changed so your values priorities thoughts etc should also change accordingly as they normally would, no?

>> No.5855459

>>5855423

No because worrying breeds pain. You can brace yourself when the time comes, but worrying is pointless and wasteful of your life.

>> No.5855476

>>5855425

Whether I have no memory has no bearing on whether we worry. Whether we worry is like a factual statement. Will you worry? Yes I will. I often have concern before enduring physical pain. The retrospection of the event has no bearing.

>> No.5855481

the sad thing is OP still thinks this is an actual question

>> No.5855543 [DELETED] 

When it comes to pain, the last thing I worry about is the future memory of it...

In fact it would be worse if I couldn't remember it.

>> No.5855545

When it comes to pain, the last thing I worry about is the future memory of it...

In fact it would be worse if I didn't remember it.

>> No.5855551

Guys, should I worry about my broken ribs? I mean, what does it mater I'm going to die either way.

>> No.5855571

>>5855551
Thank you.

/thread

>> No.5855575

depends, is it with her?

>> No.5855979

imho it depends on how long the extreme painful experience would last

>> No.5857523

>>5855444
aaand then he didn't reply anymore :D

>> No.5857540

>>5855455
source? sounds neat

>> No.5857556

Why should I care to "if I remember or not"? Do you, while feeling pain, ask yourself "oh man, I wish I could forgot this event" as a way to stop the pain? Is not the pain itself the problem here, and not your memories of the moment?
Also, suppose I took that experiment, had my memories deleted, nothing happened, so, what guarantee I have this was my first time? As far I know, I have no memory of said experiment, so I could be doing this experiment my whole life.

>> No.5857571

>>5855423
Just in case a lot of people in thread are confused, it is impossible to remember pain. There is no lasting effect of the pain (can OP please define lasting, if there is no lasting effect, how long does the pain last.l) You can't feel pain straight away, so it must last a little while (2 - 3 seconds?) plz explain

>> No.5858067

>>5855423
>>5855423
School is hard OP.
Yes, it is essential.

>> No.5858069

if you do feel it, it points to a soul.

>> No.5858171

>>5855444
>as you approach the event from the past, and experience it, you are correct in being anxious.
You answered your own question, dumbass.

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>>5855425
what are you implying?

>> No.5858194

>>5855423
Yeah, because I'm still going to experience it, and it's going to suck. Future Me won't be bothered by it, but it's still going to have to happen, and I'm still going to have to experience it. I just won't have to remember it.

>> No.5858798

Wow, she is so pretty.

>> No.5858822

>>5855425
Just like genital mutilation is okay if you do it to a baby, and we must always remember muh holocaust so that we never let Israel fall! I get it now, Goodman!

>> No.5858867

so basically do the ends justify the means:
>yes
then you don't worry ('shouldn't')
>no
then you should worry

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>>5855425

>> No.5859587

>Should you worry about going through it?

Yes, you should. Why would you pay money for something you won't remember?

>> No.5860730

>>5857540
I would also like the source.

>> No.5860841

A more interesting question is if you would do this for, say, $20.

>> No.5861516

>>5855423

what if it causes damage? Like I break my fucking teeth by gritting them or some neurological damage?

>> No.5861523

http://7chan.pw/

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>>5855423
>philosophical question
>asking sparse inadequate bullshit which can't have any correct answer
>science and math

>> No.5861545

>You are scheduled to endure an extremely painful experience
life
>with no lasting physical effects
there is no afterlife
>However, you are guaranteed not to remember the event after it has occurred.
true, because of no afterlife
>Should you worry about going through it?
I shouldn't, but I do a lot.

>> No.5861554

Its still not ok to Ruffy her! dont be a dick

>> No.5861570

>>5861545
how is life 'an extremely painful experience??

wow, your life must suck, brah

>> No.5861588

depends on how you think about time
Do you believe in eternal recurrence?

>> No.5861605

even stil,
you could justify it on potential infinites..?