/sci/ - Science & Math

>>5823585
Go back to /mlp/ you raging faggot

because life isn't open book

>>5823688
Sure it is. Unless you're somebody who doesn't have an internet-capable phone.

isn't it the opposite though? life is openbook and school is closed book too see if you retained what you learned.

hmm, now that i think about it... open book tests with less time to complete the test might make sense.. too see if you can reserch / find information quickly, instead of 1.5 hour close book test, make it a 15 minute open book test

If a serious professor plans to do an openbook test, prepare for brutal anal rape. You probably won't finish half the questions.

>>5823688
In every non-exam setting, you're going to have the entire information the internet contains accessible from a device right in your pocket

Never ask for an open book test, or a take home test in a 4000 level class.
It's a trap.

>>5823710
and in a non-exam setting, the guy who would've done better on a closed notes exam would get the job done more quickly and accurately.

>open book
>implying the prof wouldn't just make the questions multi-faceted, multi-conceptual, essay type questions
>implying the questions would be answered in the book

at best, you would have access to some constants and equations

>>5823734
That's exactly what we should be tested on. Understanding, not memorization.

>>5823585

Take the Fundamentals of Engineering exam. That's what an open book test is like.

open book is brutal, cunt

>>5823739
That's what it should be.

>>5823734
I think that's the entire point.

>>5823734

THIS

The whole point of open book is not to test what you have already learned. They are designed to make you extend your knowledge and utilize your understanding of the concept.

How often are this type of exams in college?

because there is something to be said about being able to work out a problem without having to look everything up.

> Why aren't all exams open book?

To get rid of stupid people.

>>5823766
Are you saying rote memorization=intelligence

>>5823714
I like take homes no matter the level. 1000 through 4000 and 7000 (7000 are grad classes)

I can actually think. They may be a fuck tonne harder, but I still get 90% plus on all of them

>>5823778
also i should have said that ever open book exam i've had, has had material that has never been taught or is in the textbook. Not saying they are so hard that they can't be done, but it is pretty fucking gay

>>5823771
Are you saying memory is not a part of intelligence?

>>5823771
He is, unfortunately. This is the mindset many academic institutions seems to advocate

>>5823804
Is wikipedia considered intelligent? You could argue that it "knows everything" with this reasoning

>>5823771
If you understand the subject, you wouldn't need to memorize.

>>5823816
Well, what about Chemistry, for example? Consider some evil professor that wants you to memorize all sorts of properties about different elements for use on a test rather than using a table. Could a thorough understanding of chemistry allow you to derive those?

I understand that you're totally correct about that in many fields, such as many areas of math (where formulas can be rederived), but I don't think it applies everywhere

HOMEWORK is for harder, essay like indepth questions that one might come across in a real work place.

EXAMS are for the content that you should know like the back of your hand and easily recall them instantly - no need to look it up.

A well educated student needs both.

>>5823813
Are you trolling?
Of course a book does not understand it's own contents but a person, whatever their cognitive ability without long-term memory would be an idiot; unable even to speak or understand language.

>>5823816
So you come up with axioms, then derive EVERY bit of math you need to along the way to get to say logarithms any time you need to use log?

>>5823834
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to say. What I'm saying is how many "facts" an entity has in memory doesn't measure its intelligence at all- what intelligence really is is how well an entity can USE information it already has or is given to predict things accurately.

>>5823836
>let me take your statement to an absurd extreme in order to demonstrate my clear superiority