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3D printer thread?
3D printer thread.

There's been a lot of buzz about these lately, so let's take a shot some speculation:

1. 30 years from now, what will we be able to make these things do?

2. 3D printers can print weapons like the autistic-looking gun in pic related. What other weapons could be made this way?

3. NASA has funded a project that will probably result in 3D printed pizza. Is this the dawn of the food replicator? Will this pizza be pig disgusting?

4. Whatever the fuck else you want to speculate about related to 3D printers.

>> No.5795273

shameless self-bump

>> No.5795277

3d printers will be able to do pretty much anything

they will become the new screwdriver

>> No.5795422

>>5795263
Printed pizza cannot be worse than commercial frozen pizza. You have to sear it to a crisp before it even resembles food.

>> No.5795425

>>5795277
*sonic screwdriver

>> No.5795442
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5795442

>>5795263
>not posting plans

>> No.5795449

Theoretically, is there a reason why anything which can be made conventionally cannot be made by a sufficiently advanced 3D printer?

>> No.5795451

>>5795263
>3. NASA has funded a project that will probably result in 3D printed pizza. Is this the dawn of the food replicator? Will this pizza be pig disgusting?
I bet people laughed when they first heard about the oven or microwave.

>> No.5795546

So what kind of printer and for what price would I need to buy so I could print the gun?

>> No.5795573

Can I print tits?

>> No.5795583

imagine your printer with a stack of carbon, some water, oxygen, Sulfur and all the most basic elements.

Imagine a printer capable of combining them into your favorite dildo. Or into your favorite meal.

>> No.5796461
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5796461

>>5795546
You'd need a very high-end one.

This gun was designed as a political statement, not as an economically viable weapon.

If you want or need a gun and can't get them legally, make a four-winds shotgun (pic related).
I also have some guides for some SMGs if you want them, but you need some specialised tools if you want to make them.

>> No.5796473

Once 3d printers become viable you will see a radical change globally.
Chinas manufacturing will disappear as printers can self replicate.
Shops and retail except fresh food will disappear.
Warehousing will disappear.
Shipping will drastically plummet.
Owning commercial real estate will be considered retarded.

Clothing, tools, possibly food- houses are already being printed and have a marble like finish.
All these things will so radically effect countries economies that governments may well hold them back with taxes.
Sad thing is anyone with environmental science backgrounds knows this may be the tech which most helps achieve sustainability.

Will change the world as radically as Martin Luther did with the printing Press

>> No.5796480

>>5796473

>Sad thing is anyone with environmental science backgrounds knows this may be the tech which most helps achieve sustainability.

How is that a bad thing?

>> No.5796479

2nd industrial revolution.
decentralized manufacturing.
quickly revolutionizing some forms of manufacturing eventually revolutionizing them all

>> No.5796483

>>5796473
>which most helps achieve sustainability
You realise where plastics come from, right?

>> No.5796488

Printing guns was government sanctioned so that it can be used as a false flag to ban 3d printers in order to save the corporations who pay politicians. Oh my good ezzzz 100% in conspiracy 101 hand me my medal.

>> No.5796496

>>5796488
Or it was government-sanctioned because the government are a reactionary and fearful bunch of overgrown children.

>> No.5796497

>>5795442
>posting plans for a nonworking gun

so edgy

>> No.5796498
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5796498

>>5795263
>Pizza
>Hand guns

and i am pretty sure i saw something n Ted Talks that said we are PRINTING OUT FUCKING ORGANS like hearts and shit


alright..... i need to lookk into these 3D Printers...

>> No.5796504

Any researchers care to speculate on what kind of advancements we might expect in the long term? What about a chemical vapor deposition printer? Anyone think a CVD 3d printer for macroscale objects is plausible?

How about some more exotic ideas like, laser induced electroplating?

>> No.5796509

The hype surrounding 3D printed guns is pretty silly.
It was possible to make guns at home [much higher quality than 3D printed ones] long before 3D printing came into existence.
And people always ignore the fact that the barrel on that gun is short, loose and for practical purposes smooth bore, and likely to explode.

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>>5796504

WHOA bro

...wjoa

>> No.5796516

>>5796480
Because I could see sectors of the economy fighting this tooth and nail once they see the long term effects.
If they win we all lose.
>>5796483
Yes of course, but plant based polymers could really change that.

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5796517

>>5796509

>implying

>> No.5796521

>>5796509
Again, it's a political statement.
The gun grabbers are shitting their pants with the idea that "some average middle-class white kid" can just print off a fully-working gun and go on some kind of shooting spree or something.

It's turning their entire worldview on it's head, because they're finally actually getting the idea that people can, and will make their own guns even if they're illegal.

>> No.5796564

I want 3d printers so fucking bad!

>> No.5796571

Forget sexbots.
They'll never happen.
What will happen is 3d cloning snuff.
Where you print out a hottie from black market plans with half the brain capacity and to exude pheromones and intoxicants from orifices and lactates viagra laced cream and fuck the hottie until they die.

But the flip side is like limo's you'll end up with 20 kids with $50 each who all chip in and print a log of living meat with 20 vaginas in it to take to a frat party.

At that point I think space exploration research will rocket as intelligent people desperately try to leave Earth.

>> No.5796577

>>5795263
will I be able to print a 2D qt3.142 gf?

>> No.5796585
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5796585

>>5796571
>That post
I bet $20 you've fapped to pic related.

>> No.5796588

>>5796585
All
My
WTF

>> No.5796607

How long does it take to print something? How expensive is the precursor substance? Is it toxic?

>> No.5796608

>>5796588
lol youre not on b enough if you havent seen that one before

>> No.5796611

>>5795263
>30 years from now, what will we be able to make these things do?
Literally anything you want so long as you have the materials and the right type of printer.

>3D printers can print weapons like the autistic-looking gun in pic related. What other weapons could be made this way?
All of them. Hell the military is already looking into printing UAVs and munitions.

>NASA has funded a project that will probably result in 3D printed pizza. Is this the dawn of the food replicator? Will this pizza be pig disgusting?
Yep certainly pig disgusting but 30 years is a long time they may figure out how to make something palatable.

>Whatever the fuck else you want to speculate about related to 3D printers.
Consider this: Someday there will be no factories or vast warehouses filled with finished goods everything from clothing to electronics can be made on demand and highly customizable.

>> No.5796613

Can I print drugs?

>> No.5796630

>>5796611
Look at all the shit that they eat on /ck/
Ramen, Shit tier poutine.
If you make the pizza cheap enough like a dollar peons will eat it.

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>>5796611
Also on the subject of shops and warehouses... All those jobs gone forever!
It's serious stuff. Governments wants that income and sales tax!

>> No.5796642

>>5796611
>no factory or warehouses
>print your clothes
>print your furniture
>print your soda pop
>print your mirror
>print your cell phone
lol

>> No.5796647

>>5796585
Eh, i really doubt that may be real. What a shit surgeon, he could just cut the spinal cord, maybe the brachial plexus of the girls instead of amputating their limbs.

/b/ tier creepypasta is /b/ tier.

>> No.5796648

>>5796647
There's a very specific fetish surrounding amputees, and unusable limbs just don't cut it (hurr pun).

>> No.5796657

>>5796648
There are lots of other stupid shit in that pic too. Be careful with the milk or she gets fat? Just give her cortisol, glucagon and stuff like that.

>> No.5796662

>>5796642
Are you implying that these things are not possible or just amused at the concept?

>> No.5796669

>>5796611
>Literally anything you want so long as you have the materials and the right type of printer.

Ok, then, retard. I bet you believe in the technological singularity too.

>> No.5796676

>>5796662
Don't think you're going to be printing a billion transistor wafers in your room this century. But you never know.

>> No.5796677
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5796677

30 years is a long time, it's going to be pretty hard to speculate what we'll have in 30 years, so I'm changing this to 10 years.

Currently, one cutting edge process that's been demonstrated in the lab today is high speed printing. 3d printing usually takes a long time usually hours, this new process takes it down to minutes at the expense of accuracy. But with ten years of development we should be able to keep the accuracy fairly high.

Printing big stuff is another trend. Especially for anything made of titanium, as one wastes less titanium this way than machining it. Pic related is a large titanium component for a Chinese stealth fighter.

We have the technology today to print something the size of a 747 if we wanted to the same way today, the only reason why we aren't is speed of printing, fatigue concerns, and carbon fiber is probably better.

Printing precision investment casting ceramic molds is a technology that is less than 5 years away from commercialization and is going to disrupt quite a bit of industry.

>> No.5796678

>>5796669
Whats with the name calling have I offended you in some way? If you have a differing opinion you are free to state it but there is no need for personal attacks and accusations.

>> No.5796679

>>5796588
It's fake. The dentistry is all wrong. And no one in their right mind would charge such a small price for this kind of "doll". Child prostitution yields much higher rewards in a much shorter time. And, think, how many girls would actually survive this?

Though, I'll admit to having fapped to this story on a few occasions.

>> No.5796682

>>5796678
Forget him anon he's an insecure retard

>> No.5796685

>>5796677
>Printing precision investment casting ceramic molds
u wot

>> No.5796688

>>5796677
I'm glad you posted Anon.
I read somewhere that chips are being printed. That they can print circuitry is this true?

>> No.5796689

>>5796679
>Child prostitution yields much higher rewards in a much shorter time
wat, do you think these girls have johns lining up for days willing to pay the equivalent of 500 USD a pop or what?

>> No.5796690

>>5796688
Fuck no.
Nowhere even remotely close.

>> No.5796691

>>5796682
>calls a guy a retard
>for calling another guy a retard

Not even that guy, but all three of you are fucking retarded.

>> No.5796693

>>5796676
I never said you would be able to do all of this with a small personal printer. There would be industrial printers and you could select say a item of clothing you like online have it printed up to fit your body exactly with the colors/patterns you want and it would be delivered to your house.

Similarly with electronics and most everything else.

>>5796677
Within 10 years I hope we have at least concrete printing down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfbhdZKPHro

>> No.5796698

>>5796693
Or you could have industrial looms and sewing machines where you can select an item of clothing, select the right size so that it fits you and then have it delivered to your door via FedEx.

Oh wait, that's exactly the same fucking system that we have now.

>> No.5796703

>>5796691
Fuck you too cock mongler.
I wanna read what 3d fag has to say not some slutty nigger single mom's whelp like you.

>> No.5796707

>>5796698
Not even close. You can't have a tailored suit in any color, pattern and material you want made and delivered within hours at a reasonable price (if at all). You are equating an abacus to a supercomputer.

>> No.5796717
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5796717

>>5796707
>tfw no custom made Tennant suit tailored precisely to my laser-scanned dimensions

>> No.5796718

>>5796707
>At a reasonable price
What are economies of scale? Custom-made items will ALWAYS be more expensive than mass-produced ones, even with this magical 3D printing shit.

>> No.5796713

>>5796698
What?
Seriously what?

>> No.5796721
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5796721

I suspect future 3d printers, even 20 years from now, will not be capable of printing everything, especially not microchips or precision ball bearings. But there is a solution to this, we can embed components into the print as something is being printed. This has been done before, only it hasn't been automated.

Currently, most 3d printers are good at printing a single material at a time or similar materials because of the processes.

You can print photocurable polymers that are both rubbery and stiff(pic related) or you can print several different metals, but not both at the same time.

And being able to print such things together is likely to be difficult for some time to come. Sure, ultrasonic consolidation offers some interesting possibilities, but it's a very wasteful process at the time, though it can probably be improved.

>> No.5796726

>>5796698
I grew up in a strict Jewish family.
Everything we lived and breathed was business growing up.
What are logistic costs?
What are economies of scale?
What is business diversification?

If I'd said something as dumb as you posted to my dad as a kid he would withhold good from me for 24 hours, first for thinking it then for saying it.

Your parents failed you miserably.

>> No.5796729

>>5796707
>within hours

Except 3d printers don't work like that. They work with very simple materials, and create shapes with them, not full-fledged suits in only a few hours. This won't change for a long time.

You're not talking about 3D printers; you're talking about a magical machine with the skills of every artisan in the world. It just doesn't work that way.

>>5796713
Leave it to the retard to not understand a simple argument.

>> No.5796733

>>5796721
What do you think of the possibly of using biomimetic gels, etc as mediums for medical supplies?

>> No.5796735

>>5796726
Tell me why producing a single-run shirt for $2 is better than producing one million shirts at 2c each.

Yes, production lines are becoming more modifiable, and in fact I've devoted my entire life's work to designing programmable and robotic production systems.

There is, however, a big difference between the statements
>we can change what we produce as markets change
and
>we'll produce whatever you individually want

3D printers have a future, but it's for personal production. Not in production lines.

>> No.5796737

>>5796726
We don't care about your racism, stereotyping, vulgarities; and we especially don't care about your retardation. Your freshman econ terms list means nothing.

>> No.5796739

>>5796733
"I think it's fucking stupid" - All of /sci/ except these two retards.

>> No.5796746

>>5796739
I think you're fucking stupid.

>> No.5796755

Wtf is going on ITT?

>> No.5796757

>>5796721
microchips? maybe not.

Precision ball bearings?

you would be suprised.

ever played around with laser-sintering 3D Printers?

>> No.5796764
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5796764

>>Will this pizza be pig disgusting?
Probably not. Some 3d printed cookies I saw at a conference looked quite appetizing. I even heard from a person involved with food printing that 3d printed turkey tasted better than original turkey!(3d turkey was prepared by a profession chef)

Pic related is a 3d printed fried corn thing.

>>5796504
>>What about a chemical vapor deposition printer?
Already exists, look up laser induced CVD freeform fabrication. As it's a thermal process it's hard to control. You could probably make a macroscale object, it'd just take a long time

Laser induced electroplating is likely to work well on the microscale.

>>5796611
>>Hell the military is already looking into printing UAVs and munitions.
the military is already printing parts of UAVs, as few UAVs are made it makes more sense to print parts of them than to injection mold them.
Some companies specialize in exactly this:
http://www.paramountind.com/uas.html

>> No.5796766

>>5795263
I really doubt the worlds going to make it another 30 years at the rate it's going
Also there's just no need for 3d printing to be available less alone popular

>> No.5796760

>>5796718
No thats the beauty of 3d printing making one item costs the same per unit as making 1000.

>>5796729
CURRENT 3D printers don't work like that. 10 years ago 3d printers could only make small shitty fragile stuff that broke apart if you looked at it wrong. Now we can use a variety of materials including, plastics, metals, glass and even living tissue.

>> No.5796768

>>5796760
>making one item costs the same per unit as making 1000
Yes, and it's all the same price as making one item on a big production line.
>i.e. expensive as fuck.
Production lines are faster and will continue to be faster.

Time is money.
>And space, according to Einstein

>> No.5796773

>>5796755
One guy is trolling you, writing the majority of these responses, samefagging every other post.

That guy is me.

>> No.5796775
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>>5796735
Because a) capital outlay for factories is expensive.
And
B) you cannot supply instant freedom of design. You simply can't compete with a legacy business structure.
Here is a 3d printed dress.

>> No.5796781

>>5796773
Congratulations made me rage.

>> No.5796778

>>5796775
I choose to buy clothes from K-Mart.
Why?
Because it's cheaper than the name-brand fashion designers, and I can't see any noticeable difference in quality.

This mindset is shared among most people.

Tell me why people will be willing to pay a huge premium for 3D printed clothes rather than just buying jeans and T-shirts from K-Mart.

>> No.5796786

>>5796778
Because not everyone shops at Kmart.
I wonder who does more business? Amazon or Etsy of the US or Australian arm of KMart?

>> No.5796788

>>5796760
>printing one item costs the same per unit as making 1000

Yes, but the issue is that making 1000 items by traditional assembly-line methods will still be cheaper. Mass production isn't going away, because it scales- when people want a lot of stuff, it's cheaper per unit to make a whole lot of it. Meanwhile, with a 3D printer, if you make one thing, it costs X dollars, and if you make a thousand things, it costs 1000X dollars. 3D printing will revolutionize small-scale, niche, and garage manufacturing, but factories aren't going to go away.

That said, I expect small-scale custom printed stuff to get increasingly ubiquitous and cheap, and I expect it to get a significant slice of the economic pie. But the factory isn't going away.

>> No.5796790

>>5796778
because some people prefer to have fitted clothes without shitty prints on their shirts or solid colors.

excuse me autist, /fa/ would like to have a word with you.

>> No.5796795

>>5796786
Amazon. Which is the same thing; I go on amazon to order mass-produced designs.

Etsy does orders of magnitude less business, because designing or ordering something custom takes time, and the convenience of picking something that's just Pretty Good, but predesigned and premade, far outweighs the additional appeal of making something Perfect, but more expensive and less convenient to order.

For stuff like cups, plates, shirts, and shit? I expect traditional manufacturing to reign supreme. It's stuff like toys and cool custom shit that I expect 3D printing and other advanced manufacturing methods to win out.

>> No.5796798

>>5796790

I'm so fucking sick of people on /sci/ calling eachother an autist. Its like fucking /b/tards calling eachother newfags. some of you people on /sci/ are no better

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>>5796798
Don't look now, but you're autism is unzipped.

>> No.5796804

>>5796798
>expecting civility
>or rational discussion
>or at least correct word usage

Why are you even still on 4chan?

>> No.5796805

>>5796788
I read last week that Ford motors is pulling out of Australia entirely and moving all Pacific manufacturing to Asia.
Legacy business is very sensitive to economics where small scale highly mobile manufacturing isn't.
Also you're forgetting asset value. The land factories are on is worth a value. And if alot of surrounding factories close, confectionary factories, signage factories, warehouses, tool shops, homewares then the areas value on a whole goes down and the successful factory still takes a hit if it owns the land asset from high vacancy rate and land devaluation.

>> No.5796802

Answer me this, /sci/:
If home printers are so ubiquitous, then why do book publishers still exist?

>> No.5796816

>>5796802
They barely do.
Harry potter saved murdochs ass in that industry.
Printing houses like music shops aren't anywhere near the power houses they used to be thanks to tech.

>> No.5796823

>>5796802
Because printing a book takes time and money, and binding a book is hard, and it's cheaper to just buy a pre-made book which will look way less crappy. Plus, books are very copyright-locked and closed-source; they're hard to get at.

With 3D printers, though, the quality is rising rapidly, and the printing medium is typically several orders of magnitude cheaper per volume than printer ink. I would never substitute a home-printed and bound book for a real volume, but there are already cases where I could substitute 3D-printed stuff for stuff I could buy otherwise, and many cases where I could easily print something that it would be more difficult and expensive to buy (usually custom parts or shells for hobby projects).

Also, it's MUCH easier to make your own useful or good-looking object than it is to write your own good book.

Your point is valid, but the dichotomy is MUCH less strong for 3D printing. Home printing won't suddenly eliminate conventional manufacturing, and there will always be things that larger machines can do that a home machine can't (like bookbinding). However, I still expect the dynamics of manufacturing to change significantly, especially for small businesses whose small order volumes make 3D printing of their stuff practical.

>> No.5796826

>>5796795
>toys!
Fuck I'd love to be a kid again now.

>> No.5796827 [DELETED] 

>>5796798
Sorry bro, 4chan is a... the shit tier imageboard.

>> No.5796829

>>5796790
/fa/ knows less about fashion than /mu/ does about music. Don't kid yourself.

>> No.5796830
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5796830

>>5796688
Yes, sort of. We can even print transistors, very large, very slow transistors, very power consuming transistors:
http://utwired.engr.utexas.edu/lff/symposium/proceedingsArchive/pubs/Manuscripts/2007/2007-06-Havener.pdf

A more practical approach is do something like the digital dice and wireless charger in pic related. You print an object and embed chips and other components into it while it's being printed and trace on circuitry.

Pic related was done manually, the chips and conductive ink were put on by hand.

Unfortunately, we don't have very good conductive inks. Pic related uses special $ilver paste, it is pretty expensive.

>>5796733
if you mean printing bioabsorbable implants for replacing broken bones or tissue, it's happening now at the research scale. Has been used successfully in humans if I recall correctly.


>>5796757
notice I said precision ball bearings, the surface roughness of laser sintered parts is pretty high, much higher than any mass produced ball bearing.

>>ever played around with laser-sintering 3D Printers?
I've worked with them.

>> No.5796835

>>5796826
I think that there's a real synergy here with the sudden rise of interest in gestural shit and VR shit. A 3D display and ability to give commands in 3D by using your arms and hands has the possibility to make 3D modeling MUCH easier- perhaps to the point where a little kid could learn it. Making 3D design easy and intuitive is an important factor in making 3D printers anywhere near as accessible and useful as the utopian visions would suggest.

>> No.5796838

My work space has a few printers. One my peers printed the gun in OPs pic in fact.

I dont get it. You can make a gun of comparable quality with like metal pipes and stuff. You can even go to home depot and buy a tube of the same plastic used by a 3D to print into a gun barrel.

If anyone wanted to make a gun, 3D printing is now the way to go.

>>5796823
>With 3D printers, though, the quality is rising rapidly, and the printing medium is typically several orders of magnitude cheaper per volume than printer ink.

The plastic used in 3D prints is pretty expensive. You dont actually use an entire cartridge volume of printer ink in a 2D print, but on a 3D print you do.

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>>5796830
Been lurking in this thread.
Honestly how long do you expect if ever 3D printers to take over current mass production assembly?
Both industrial and domestic.

>> No.5796855

>>5796842
>mass production

3D printers just aren't meant for mass production. That's not what they're good at, and that's not what they're for.

Mass production EXISTS because of economies of scale- when you make a lot of shit, it costs less per unit, so it's more profitable to make an assload of the same thing.

3D printers don't scale. It costs exactly ten thousand times as much to make ten thousand widgets on a printer as it does to make one widget- there's no economy of scale, and so for large volumes where the profits from scale vastly outweigh the costs of mass production, 3D printers just don't work.

For small, niche business and products that currently can't exist because of the small production volume they'd produce, however, 3D printing and similar technologies will be a godsend.

Likewise, a hybrid of the two technologies likely will dominate. For instance, one common method of mass production is casting- you make a mold, and then use it ten thousand times. If you 3D printed the mold, then you'd have real benefits- you'd get all the economies of scale, but it's easy to swap out molds for new ones at very little expense.

3D printers will (probably- the new markets they'll open up in niche products will likely create a large long tail of stuff, and nobody really knows how big that market is) never dominate manufacturing, but they'll probably be a significant part of it and will likely be combined with many current mass-production methods.

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>>5796795
>toys
if we can get thermoplastic inkjetting to work well, as of yet we're pretty far from it, then the costs of mass producing a plastic plastic action figure would probably be comparable to injection molding it.

Possibly even less than injection molding, because you have no painting and no assembly.

I suspect such a machine will probably be out of reach of the average consumer, but dammit, I really want one.

>> No.5796863

>>5796856
Even if it can't be home-used and needs to be a Shapeways-like service, the look on a kid's face when he gets the exact toy that he wanted (even though it didn't exist until a week ago) or for getting an assload of Lego-to-K'nex custom-printed adapters or custom LEGO bricks made will likely be enough to drive a market.

>> No.5796872

>3. NASA has funded a project that will probably result in 3D printed pizza. Is this the dawn of the food replicator? Will this pizza be pig disgusting?
>3D printed pizza. Is this the dawn of the food replicator? Will this pizza be pig disgusting?
>Will this pizza be pig disgusting?

goodnight /sci/

>> No.5796874

3d is for rapid prototyping and small run custom components. It won't ever become economical for anything else.

>> No.5796875

>>5796830
I'll concede that the surface finish control is terrible, but it is getting better. way better.

>> No.5796886

why do nerds have such boners over 3d printing? table top metalworking lathes and mills have been around for decades. you can actually make shit that won't disintegrate or literally explode in your hands.

>> No.5796898

> 30 years from now, what will we be able to make these things do?

It's not what 3D printers themselves will be able to do. It's that they'll be able to make any other form of more specialized equipment.

Once you can do that, you can make any form of industry you want.

As >>5796479 said, totally decentralized manufacture with all that entails.

Imagine third world children with drug labs and weapons programs. That's where we're going, and why governments and corporations, and the capitalist economy we live in, is on it's way out.

>4. Whatever the fuck else you want to speculate about related to 3D printers

You've heard about bio-printing, right? Well, imagine having an auto-doc in your home that can preform any form of surgery you wanted, combined with an auto-pharmacy that makes drugs solely for your benefit.

Combine this with genetic engineering, and we might just see the hospital move into the home. Moreover, not just the hospital, but also the 'bodyshop' of cyberpunk myth. Imagine turning yourself into a superman, without going though anyone else.

This should show just how much of a threat this technology is to the current economic, social, and political status quo. There will be no way to stop it, regulate it, tax it, or subvert it.

>> No.5796899

>>5796886
Why I do is I'm blind in my right eye.
I literally can't use power tools due to safety.
It suits me to make 3D models on my computer that I can dream of printing out.

>> No.5796903

>>5796721
if a printer can print everything, can it print itself?

>> No.5796904
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5796904

In 30 years will a 3D printer be able to print a smaller 3D printer?

>> No.5796905
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>>5796842
I don't think 3d printers will be used to get rid of mass production.

It is likely that we'll see 3d printers used along with other industrial processes to mass produce stuff.

3d printers are already being used to produce components for airplanes at a pretty large scale

>>5796855
There are very much economies of scale with 3d printers. Any unused area in a print bed is essentially wasted material, so the more stuff you can fit in a print bed makes you more money. Big operations make sense in 3d printing.

That being said, it has been demonstrated that we can vastly increase the speed of 3d printing. In the future, it is likely we could increase it even further and get the same material rate as injection molding. But, you can use less material, make more complicated components, switch over to another product line instantly, and avoid/decrease assembly costs(more than 50% of product cost).

If this was a thermoplastic inkjet process, it's likely the energy costs would be similar to that as injection molding

>> No.5796913

>>5796904
They can do that now...

>> No.5796914

Could it be possible that a time-traveling 3D printer went back in time and printed its inventor?

>> No.5796916

>>5796886
Because of this.

http://animalnewyork.com/2013/justin-bieber-hello-kitty-other-3d-printed-dildos/

>> No.5796917

>>5796913
yes, but how many iterations can it go through?

>> No.5796920
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>>5796886
because it's fucking awesome

>> No.5796926

>>5796886
I don't think anybody here is hating on machining technologies. I, for one, am a huge fan of machining.

but you have to admit that 3d printing allows for the creation of geometries which would be impossible for conventional stock removal techniques

In addition, there are some materials which simply are not machinable, at least not on an industrial scale. Material deposition method are the option of choice.

>> No.5796934
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5796934

but will 3D print live lolis that i then molest?

>> No.5796997

>>5796917
How big is the starting printer?

>> No.5797015

>>5796917
You misunderstand there is a a printer can make itself not a smaller printer.

http://reprap.org/wiki/Main_Page

Right now it can't make all of its components but the truly self replicating printer will come sooner rather than later.

>> No.5797459

>>5797015
Awesome!!!!!

>> No.5797958

>>5796473
Probably won't happen. It still costs time and effort to print something using a 3d printer. And the more complicated the object is you want to build, the more time it costs. Thus one may get some objects faster by simply buying them.

>> No.5797989

>>5797958
>Probably won't happen. It still costs bandwidth and time to download something using the internet. And the larger the file is you want to download, the more time it takes. Thus one may get some movies and games faster by simply buying them.

>> No.5798004

>>5797958
Actually, more complex objects are currently more expensive (all other things being equal) due to the necessity for skilled workers. Once we have 3D printers, you can just download the blueprint and press a button, and it doesn't matter if you want a computer chip or a plastic circle.

>> No.5798009

sex toys everywhere. that's about it.

>> No.5798020

>>5796473

For anybody who was wondering, this is an obvious troll post.

Not only is the thesis and argument trash, but Gutenberg made the printing press. Martin Luther's contribution to society was altering Christianity so it no longer hated capitalism.

>> No.5798027

>>5795573
yes, yes you can

>> No.5798029

>>5798004
You're going quite far on faith. 3D printers are a very long way from computer chips.

>> No.5798044

>>5796473
how in the actual fuck will owning commercial real estate be retarded

I think one of my favorite movie quotes is from Superman Returns when Lex says, "You can print money, manufacture diamonds, and people are a dime a dozen, but they'll always need land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of."

>> No.5798054

>>5796585
you motherfucker you saved that pic on funnyjunk i can tell by the filename

>> No.5800151

isn't the plan for asteroid mining for robots to collect materials and use a 3d printer to print more of themselves?

>> No.5800171

>>5795263
1. Honestly the major problem with 3D printing is the shitty materials we can print. Will we ever be able to print with something other than shitty plastics? I doubt it, there are other production methods for things that aren't shitty.

2. That gun is a piece of shit which you would be lucky not to explode in your hand, much less actually hit a target with, and its not like it was somehow impossible to make a homemade gun before a 3D printer, in fact its still cheaper to make a homemade gun without a 3D printer, or just buy a gun.

3. We already have pizza vending machines, Its basically the same thing.

4. 3D printers are largely stupid. I mean okay if you need to prototype something, sure great. But the last thing I need in my life is more cheap low-quality plastic doohickys.

>> No.5800173

>>5800151
there is no "THE plan" there's just ideas people throw around.

>> No.5800175

>>5800171
There are already 3d printers for metals and hard plastics. They're not all "glue gun" types.

I think 3d food printers will be much more relevant to sweets than anything else, particularly cake decoration.

>> No.5800178

Imagine printing down to the atomic level.

>> No.5800185

>>5800175
As I understand it 3D printing with metal is an involved process that is not particularly more home-user friendly than most of your other methods of making a thing out of metal. What's the point then? I mean its not like we didn't have ways of making complicated things out of metal otherwise?

>> No.5800189

>>5800173
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining#Self-replicating_machines

>> No.5800191

>>5800189
Yeah. I know. But its not "THE plan". Its just something NASA wrote a study on.

>> No.5800235

Ok seriously what is with all the luddites itt? I though this was /sci/ not /lud/. I've seen amazing 3D printer threads on /g/ and even fucking /pol/ but you guys have no vision.

>> No.5800239

>>5800235
You don't understand what luddite means. Not being excited about it is different from being a luddite. No one is protesting the damn things or trying to smash things. Seriously, bro, learn what words mean.

>> No.5800245

>>5795451
in fairness, microwaves are terrible.

>> No.5800279

where can I get detailed info on printing materials properties? plastic in particular.

>> No.5800338

>>5796904
>>5796903
They can do that already.

>> No.5800339

I suggest everyone in this thread google "micro gravity foundry"

>> No.5800351

>>5800339
Wow cool!

>> No.5800725

>>5800151
no no that's the plot for every man vs. machine sci-fi ever

oh wait...