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I don't know if it'd make any noticeable impact on the speed that you swim, but there'd be much less resistance/friction between you and the fluid.

>>5780829
this basically

I'd imagine it would make a impact for a professional swimmer, however i'm sure someone has already tried it and it was probably banned shortly after.


That would be kinda strange though...
Leaving the pool, and there's no water on you lol.

You'd have to find a way to keep the hydrophobic material on you.

>>5780849
Could just have it bind to the oils on your skin.

>>5780862
Those come off too.

>>5780849
Could just breed mutate a person with high levels of radiation and have him/her produce this oil naturally with the addition of fins and gills.

Less friction---->you apply less energy---->less speed
:-!

>>5780825
I think long distance swimmers use grease to keep themselves warm (Goolge will know, Google knows all...), but perhaps there is this added benefit you describe, OP.

I would only put it on non-appendages (backside of calves excluded) you actually need friction as to traverse through the waters. So like topside of arms and legs/rest of the body yes, bottom side no. (because that's the part you're pushing off with)

Wouldn't this reduce your buoyant force?

I feel like this is borderline dangerous

>>5781260
No. It does not significantly alter your mass or volume.

I thought your cellular membranes are made of phospholipid bilayers? I dont know much about dermatology but i guess if you strip the proteins from the surface of your skin you would effectively have just the hydrophillic layer remaining right?

>>5781269
>i guess if you strip the proteins from the surface of your skin you would effectively have just the hydrophillic layer remaining right
Google images 'phospholipid bilayer'.

>>5781269
wut?

>>5781286
>>5781300

what? did i say something wrong?
i understand it would be lethal but how else are you gonna get a lipid bilayer to stay on you?
this is theoretical right?

I swam competitively for about 12 years. It has been brought up among swimmers as something to do for a big race (after the shave down of course), but I have not heard of a swimmer who does it. I've had a few coaches swear by it, but I doubt it would make a difference. It more likely just has a placebo effect, kinda like when swimmers drink the water from the pool they are about to race in.

>>5781317
You can't really 'strip' the proteins from them as some of them are embedded or even traverse the layer multiple times. And stripping them would ruin the cell.
What purpose does stripping serve anyways?
Also, you can't remove h-philic/phobic layer, they're both in the same molecule.

>>5780825
Relevant to OP, there are many many ways of making hydrophobic materials adhere to skin. Something you might have used in real life are the liquid bandages that you spray on a cut.

>>5781326
I know it would be lethal, this whole topic it theoretic.
also they are not the same molecule, hence the term 'bilayer' meaning two molecules. if you put a bilayer into a hypertonic solution the while layer wild invert

>>5781329
whole * would*
dam its fucking cold here

>>5781329
Bilayer = 2 layers. Not 2 molecules.
Each layer of phospholipid has a hydrophobic and a hydrophilic side. You can't remove philic/phobic from it without destroying the molecule itself. Read the wiki article, this is grade 8 biology.

>>5781326
Not him but I´m pretty sure the lipid bilayer is made of two layers. So there will be hydrophilic ends on both sides of the cellular membrane made from the functional phosphate group. The hydrocarbons will be attracted to each and pushed up against eachother.
I thought he was saying rip out the outer hydrophilic heads somehow.

>>5781343
I dont need to read the wiki article seriously. And your twisting your words now because you can separate the layers like i said but now you saying you cant separate the molecules.
which is wrong as well because there are things called enzymes. i cant be bothered finding the right enzyme but put it this way, the polar heads and nonpolar tails and synthesized by enzymes and degraded by enzymes, if you could degrade the layers then dead bodies would be around forever.
Dont patronize me please unless you really know

>>5781354
could not*

>>5781343
I see what you´re saying,You can´t remove it from the molecule itself but I was saying get rid of that entire outer layer. Would the hydrocarbons all come together with a single hydrophil tail point out?
>>5781354
I have no idea what you´re talking about.

>>5781367
I do know what im talking about, you're the one who is confused.
learn molecular biology and biosynthesis pathways then talk to me.

>>5781367
Also wiki is a poor reference point.

>Would the hydrocarbons all come together with a single hydrophil tail point out?
The tail is non polar (hydrophobic). It'd point in, not out, but yes. What you would get is a micelle (right in pic).

>>5781373
Yeah my mistake. Thanks.

>>5781373
Pic. lol

>>5781354
>>5781368
You can separate the layers, which will then make a micelle. There is no 'separate the molecules'. A phospholipid is one singular molecule. The only way of removing its polar properties is by breaking the one singular molecule into multiple molecules (enzyme degradation, ph, etc).

>>5781377
Ah, I´ve seen that picture. It always confused me in my Biology book. I didn´t get it but now I do. Thanks man

>>5780825
nigger what do you think they make those racing suits out of?