/sci/ - Science & Math

most of my life is imaginary

>ohlookitsthisthreadagain.jpg

It has nothing to do with being infinite and non-repeating. Pi must be normal as well, and while it probably is, no one knows for sure.

"As soon as you discard scientific rigor, you're no longer a mathematician, you're a numerologist!"
-Sol Robeson

11:04 press return

φ is the most important irrational number.

It is perfect because it comes from nothing.

>>5734451
Will a thousand monkeys make shakespear

No.

There is no 4444444444 in pi.

ALTHOUGH! If you account for every number being the, to itself, smallest of circumferential of pi, and it's place being constant, but it's next encurance being arbitray by its innate state, that pi cant be said to have any number- that being said the same again ands its not true, that same again and it's a variation, how deep should we go OP?

>tfw

>>5734499
smallest circumferential of a pi*

>>5734499
>no 4444444444 in pi
Explain.
Are you sure there's just not a known 4444444444 in pi?

couldn't you say the same thing with e or any irrational number?

>>5734514
e is imaginary, not rational

>>5734504
>|4444....| I would say, as long as were talking bs
srry I tossed it out slopily, that being said, any math fags wanna brute force it?

>>5734515
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_that_e_is_irrational

>>5734517
lol

>>5734514
All irrational numbers have infinite nonrepeating decimal representations, but that doesn't mean they contain every possible finite list of digits. For example,
<div class="math">\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{1}{10^{(k^2)}}
</div>is irrational, and though it doesn't terminate or repeat, it only contains 0's and 1's as digits. Most numbers do contain every finite list of digits, but it's hard to prove any particular number does.

>>5734451
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/04/pi_meme_on_reddit_and_george_takei_your_life_really_is_encoded_in_its_digits.html

>>5734490

My new hypothesis: If we're built from Spirals while living in a giant Spiral, then is it possible that everything we put our hands to is infused with the Spiral?

SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST MAX AND WE'VE GOT THE FUCKING GUN!

>>5734526
could it be that the multiverse is an infinitely long fibonacci spiral

Occam's razor says YES

>>5734529

Restate my assumptions: One, Mathematics is the language of nature. Two, Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. Three: If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns everywhere in nature. Evidence: The cycling of disease epidemics;the wax and wane of caribou populations; sun spot cycles; the rise and fall of the Nile. So, what about the stock market? The universe of numbers that represents the global economy. Millions of hands at work, billions of minds. A vast network, screaming with life. An organism. A natural organism. My hypothesis: Within the stock market, there is a pattern as well... Right in front of me... hiding behind the numbers. Always has been.

Each letter's a number. Like the Hebrew A, Alef is 1. B, Bet is 2. You understand? But look at this. The numbers are inter-related. Like take the Hebrew word for father, 'Ab' - Alef Bet... 1, 2 equals 3. Alright? Hebrew word for mother, 'em' - Alef Mem... 1, 40 equals 41. Sum of 3 and 41... 44. Alright? Now, Hebrew word for child, alright, mother... father... child, 'Yeled' - that's 10, 30, and 4... 44.

>>5734529
>the second/third sequence coulndt be the 1'st 0th sequence
>666.....
>mfw you're teh devilz

>>5734549
I've heard of this, and understand the anthropological implications. However, I don't understand how naming things using number systems is relevant to the universe in the grand scheme of things. I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just saying I don't understand. As in, before you jump up and start calling me a faggot, just tell me why this matters?

>>5734582
He's confusing realism with Humanism.
>they're the same thing

the guys filthy swine obsly, quick /sci/ pummel his ego

>pic related
>ofw

>>5734596
Who's confusing realism with humanism? mathematics is nature dude?

which guy is filthy swine?

>>5734582

12:14, Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six I did. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal. I was terrified, alone in that darkness. Slowly, daylight crept in through the bandages, and I could see. But something else had changed inside of me. That day I had my first headache.

Failed treatments to date: Beta blockers, calcium channel blockers, adrenalin injections, high dose ibuprofen, steroids, Trager Mentastics, violent exercise, cafergot suppositories, caffeine, acupuncture, marijuana, Percodan, Midrine, Tenormin, Sansert, homeopathics. No results. No results...

>>5734596

I'm trying to understand our world. I don't deal with petty materialists like you.

>>5734609
>doing the same again
>again, more filth and swine

>>5734451
Same is true of any irrational, transcendental number, so what?

>>5734629
> >>5734633
You actually think you're touching that thing that you're touching, you've got you're head so far in materialism's ass you still cant see the light

>>5734644
YU STOLE MAH DUBS WHOR

>>5734633

The Ancient Japanese considered the Go board to be a microcosm of the universe. Although when it is empty it appears to be simple and ordered, in fact, the possibilities of gameplay are endless. They say that no two Go games have ever been alike. Just like snowflakes. So, the Go board actually represents an extremely complex and chaotic universe.

>>5734645

Who do you think you are? You are only a vessel from our god. You are carrying a delivery that was meant for us. The Torah is just a long string of numbers. Some say that it's a code sent to us from God. It's killing you, because you are not ready to receive it. If the number's there I'll find it!

>>5734709
Deversity is the point
>>5734499
Is my post
& >>5734516
>>5734730

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOD? ITS SUCH A BROAD SCOPE OF BULLSHIT YOU CANT EVEN WANT TO DEFINE IT

>>5734709
> >>5734751
The point is diversity.
Enjoy it.

>>5734751

1:01, personal note: It's fair to say I'm stepping out on a limb, but I am on the edge and that's where it happens.

>>5734471
>>5734526
>>5734549
>>5734629
>>5734709

These are all quotes from the movie Pi. Be sure to let Darren Aronofsky know how little you think of his dialog.

Now, what is the moral of the story? That a breakthrough will come? Wrong! The point of the story is the wife. You listen to your wife, she will give you perspective, meaning. You need a break, you have to take a bath or you will get nowhere.

>>5734786
#fuckeverything

smelled fishy, good play

>>5734522
>Implying you can't encode everything in binary

Just because it's infinite doesn't mean it has every possible number combination

>tfw I tried explaining this to my sister and her husband
>"Let's say you have the number, then the number must contain itself infinitely many times to have every number combination ever, which would require the number to be longer than itself"
>"But it's infinite! That means it has all the numbers"

People are stupid.

>>5734516

Brute force infinity?

>>5734854
IF pi is normal, then it does have every possible number combo. All evidence points to it being normal.

Also, you don't understand infinities based on that question you asked your sister.

>>5734858

There's different levels of infinity. Obviously there's more real numbers than there are integers.

A number can't be bigger than itself, even infinity. If a number were to contain every possible number combination, it would need to contain itself infinitely many times, which is impossible.

We could use a base-pi number system and every single integer would be magical love and god and rainbows like pi.

Fuck humanities mystical reverence of everything rigorous.

>>5734867
This thread is about finite combinations of numbers.

>>5734854
No they understand if you try to singlify a portion of an infinitive it itself is still infinitive.

The only thing that can even remotely defy this is simple combinatronics, and even at that is expulsion of deffinitions of the terms/numbers used undermine or recomplete the entire spectrum of relation.
>tfw you're just

And your point is?
Most people can probably already agree that most if not everything happens for a reason the probabilities and likelihood of everything being random is just too obscure to even fanthom

"I fucking love science" is the most cancerous page ever.

Except a circle never stops except for the beginning point and yes it's already a known fact that everything happens for a reason

>>5734856
It's probably in the first 10 billion digits or so. You could find it by downloading a sufficiently long list of pi digits and searching for it.

>>5734956
Nawnawnaw you dont get it, it reflexes into set theories

>>5735024
AB|AAB|AAAB|0~

>>5734956
>>5734956
Downloading....it's 1 GB in file size, and that's the first billion...
I don't want to know how long the grep will take

>>5735031

What do you expect? It's 10 billion digits, and a minimum of half a byte is required to store any single digit.

>>5734499
>There is no 4444444444 in pi.

nobody can know that.
stfu

>>5734870
you forgot 'hold hands and sing kumbayya'

>>5734451
Picture is completely wrong. Nothing to discuss