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Sup Science. Just a quick color question. So, Humans are able to see three spectrum of colors (Blue, Red and Yellow). But Shrimp Mantis are able to see 16 spectrum colors. So what the hell are the 13 other colors? Do they even have names and how did we realize they were able to see 13 more colors than we are?

>> No.5708741
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5708741

Sorry, Green not Yellow.

>> No.5708748

>lrn2colors
>lrn2EMspectrum
>lrn2science

>> No.5708753

What do the pitches out of our hearing range sound like?What does UV light look like? What is the 4th dimension like? We have no way to qualitatively answer any of these questions. Imagine living in a village of people who only see in black and white, and trying to explain color to them.

We do have names for them (for example, the color which is just "above" blue on a rainbow is UV, I would the mantis shrimp can see that even though we can't).

We realized they can see it by studying the cells in their eyes which pick up color. I can't speak to the specifics of that.

>> No.5708777

>>5708753
Its still pretty freaky to think that they see things we cant even imagine. And yet they have no real brain power. We are smart but pretty useless morphologicly speaking.

>> No.5708789

we're the best long distance runners on the planet

>> No.5708796

>>5708789
no, niggers are

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>>5708789
Sure, but we cant fly, we are not really strong, not really special. We just think. And build stuff to do what other animals can do for us.

>> No.5708858

>>5708820
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUHEUHEUEHUEHUHEUE

Hi /sci/

No OP, humans are extremely marvelous, and quite fuckable

>> No.5708879

>>5708777
>We are smart but pretty useless morphologicly speaking.
>useless morphologicly speaking.

I can walk bipedally, in a fashion no other animal on the planet can.

I have two amazing, grasping hands that are capable of fine motor control, whilst also shifting the focus of exploratory organs from being located primarily in the head.

My respiratory structure (especially the larynx) confers the ability of fine tuned vocalization, allowing me to communicate specific concepts and ideas to others of my kind.

And my relatively large brain allows me to not only predict future events of the natural world, but also provides the neural infrastructure of both verbal and written language, the later allowing me to communicate with others of my species through both time and space, so that my kind may continue to thrive and technologically evolve.

I'd like to see a shrimp do anything like that.

tl;dr: Homo sapiens was here. All other species is fagits.

>> No.5708934

If you want to know the other colors names you will have to ask a mantis shrimp.
We don't give names to things we cannot see.

>> No.5708939

>>5708934
>dark matter

>> No.5708945

>>5708939
Well that's kind of a non-name isn't it? like "zero"

>> No.5708972

>>5708796
>>>/pol/

>> No.5709009

The Oatmeal is really turning into shit lately.

>> No.5709089

Is it possible to genetically modify a human, or its eye, to add photoreceptors?

How come some people see "colors that don't exist" while tripping on Opium?

>> No.5709096

>>5709089
You could probably modify humans eye cells to be sensitive to more wavelengths of light, but that doesn't mean your brain would make any effort to interpret the signals.

>> No.5709212

>>5708726
>Do they even have names and how did we realize they were able to see 13 more colors than we are?
they obviously have no names since we cant see them

this artical is targetting non-scientific individuals. based on the graph, for the most part, the shrimp doesn't see more colours. it has more recepetors which are each adapted to narrower band than in humans. so it will see contrast more, as in more easily differentiate between similair colours. it does have some receptors in the UV range. if you take a light and gradually change it from purple>UV, it will seem to extenguish. to the shrimp it will gradually transition from purple to the UV colour

>> No.5709216

>>5708972
Wow, directing to /pol/ done appropriately for once. I’m impressed, /sci/.

>> No.5709249

>>5709089
Wouldn't quote me on this but anything that effects brain chemistry could confuse incoming signals from sensory organs, mixing them up or changing them entirely. I forget the name of the disease but some people can "see" sounds as colours, I imagine its the same sort of thing or they are trying to justify the use of banned, addictive and poorly studied hard drugs making them out to be spectacular in ways ordinary life could never achieve.

>> No.5709272

>>5709249
I don't think synesthesia can be classified as disease, as it's not harmful.

>> No.5709275

>>5709212

Just as a side-note, afaik mantis shrimp, being awesome and all, also are able to "see"/differentiate the polarization of light. So there is another visual thing that is quite unimaginable for humans. Maybe it's bit like timbre in music; same notes sounding different coming from different instruments.

>> No.5709304

>>5708879
I'd rather be able to destroy anything and everything with my goddamn Shockwave Pulsar cannon claws.

>> No.5710645

There are variations in photo-receptors so some people actually do see colors slightly different than others. Some of the genes for photo-receptor are carried on the X chromosome which is why color blindness is rare in females who have two copies but more common in men who only have one. It also means that some females can see four colors. But due to X inactivation perception of the different colors would not over lap but would be patchwork and is likely imperceivable.

>> No.5710648

>>5709089
>>5709089
Some human females have a 4rth colour spectrum. So yes.

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>>5710648
No, they can't see other colors. They just differentiate better. Fuck, at least read the whole Snapple fact.

>> No.5710723

All normal humans have a fourth color in the violet range. It is not used for vision in normal lighting conditions but instead is used to set your day night cycle and regulate your pupal size.

It may be used for vision in low light conditions but this has not been proven. Regardless color distention really sucks in low light conditions so good luck seeing those extra colors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_ganglion_cell

>> No.5711180

>>5708726
Colour perception is GPCR related activation of a nerve and perception of a wavelength of light that activates it

13 more perceptions of 13 wavelengths of light