/sci/ - Science & Math

If you yourself are not a bumbling idiot then there's still time to catch up with self study. It's not nearly as hard as it probably seems.

>>5688436
It feels like a brick wall. I just cant imagine studying physics and calculus and understanding it all.

I've been studying biology and orgo for about 6 months now and i've gotten pretty well rounded in those but math is just a massive barrier for me.

>>5688443
Don't worry. The majority of people who study these topics don't understand half the material.

>>5688443
Take the summer to do nothing but math.

>>5688443
I've basically rushed through highschool level math/physics in about 4 months, give or take.

What I can tell you is that shit will go much easier after you've got the basics. Practice math, study physics.

>>5688455
Good idea. When summer enrollment opens up ill try and enroll in several

>>5688456
What did you use for that. Did you rush through it on your own or with the help of a class?

>>5688428
why would a doctor need to know math?

>>5688428
Okay so everybody has to start somewhere. You will get through pre algebra next semester, and then into algebra I the semester after, and then you can take algebra II over the summer. The next year you will take pre calculus the first semester, then calculus I the last. So you are looking at math for two years plus half of one summer. another option is to take algebra II the first half of summer, then pre calculus the second. That way you start your second year in calculus.

I started college with taking pre calculus and now I just finished partial diffeq. You aren't too far behind, take advantage of summer courses!

>>5688466
For the basics, I would definitely recommend attending a class. What you need is to learn how to study.

After that, you're basically free to teach yourself the rest.
Something I'd advise you, though, is not to rush it like I did. I do feel like I left a few important subjects behind. Take everything at your own pace, but be sure to study errday.

>>5688489
Thank you for your advice. 2 years of math doesn't seem that bad if its what it takes.

>>5688475
op again, they need it calculate dosages, understand half-lifes of medications they prescribe and understand some biochemistry reaction math. thats as far as i know

>>5688511
You can most likely skip pre-calc if you think you're doing well in math.

>>5688428

>home schooled

There's your problem. Stupid amerifats. Your parents handicapped you for life, or at least for the 5 years of knowledge that you lost and now have to spend your life 5 years behind your peers

>>5688461
save your money and study it yourself

>>5688532

>>5688532
You do realize that many youthful doctorate candidates were only able to achieve suck rapid advancement due to their superior home schooling because some parents are way smarter and better communicators than average teachers.

The chemistry you need to learn to become a doctor requires almost no math. You need to know algebra, and dimensional analysis, which honestly is simple shit (6th grade level). If you are naturally good at math, then you should be able to pick up on it really quickly.
Physics is going to be hard, but you don't have to take it for four years so in that time you can catch up.

>>5688578
True I'm sure, that "some" are.

>>5688428

>docter

>>5688578

SOME maybe, but the majority of home schoolers are mouth breathing hillbillies and rednecks whose parents don't trust "them librul commie ath'ist gov'mint teachin' people"

>>5688649
What was your sampling size and how did you get normalized geographic distribution of the samples?

>>5688671

>sample size and geo. dist.

Main street in my town in Arkansas. More mullets per unit area than a U2 concert in the 80s

math major here, now computer programmer, i'm going to homeschool my daughter and i guarantee she will know math and science better than high school level by the time she's 18

>>5688679
Sounds very scientific not at all like you simply project yourself and your family onto homeschoolers so you can attack what you don't like without self-awareness.

...there's basically two kinds of homeschoolers:

1. parents like me who know that schools are glorified daycare centers and want more education than they can (or even try to) provide.

2. religious nuts who are afraid their kids will get _too_ much education.

it seems to me there's no overlap. you're either one or the other.

>>5688688

>Guys looks around his town to get a feel for what is there, gathers empirical evidence

>you bitch and condescend massively
>stay classy

>>5688700
How many homeschoolers do you know in your town to come to the conclusion that your opinion represents a majority of all homeschoolers?

>>5688710

I don't fraternise with them, other than when they bag my groceries and make sure my fries are hot. Not even making that up, pretty much every min wage job in this town has pretty much the same creature doing it.

>>5688716
What is your job?
Also, how do you know all the min wage job workers in town well enough to know they are homeschooled if you don't fraternize with them, are there only like 3 jobs in town?

I have heard a lot of bad stuff about homeschooling... Just that the socialization is really difficult to get down right.

If you're worried about your kid's academics, I imagine it's not difficult to supplement on evenings and weekends with your own curriculum... conversely it seems much more difficult to replicate the 100s of relationships a kid will have with their peers at school

>>5688722

I'm a mechanical engineer, work at a power plant with the turbines. I've lived in this town for 17 years. Long enough to know the place. But please, condescend to me more oh random person on the internet.

>>5688735
Mechanical Engineers are that ignorant of statistics?
Did you only get your bachelors and did you get it online or something?
And don't lie even if your online degree is in Mechanical Engineering, your job is more along the lines of a glorified service technician, no?

>>5688742

I don't know if I'm being trolled by responding to you here, but I'll give it one last go. I made some flippant comment and you're autistic enough to try and drill me about it, child.

I graduated from the Uni. of Idaho in 1995 with a Bachelors, back when that meant something. I moved to this town the next year to do a mentored program for graduate mech. engs in what is now Entergy. At the time, pretty much I fixed small shit and followed the other engineers like a dog to learn what to do. I'm now a supervisory engineer for the generators and have two younglings who are much in the same position as I was, and are damn grateful for the opportunity. I'm trying to teach them everything I can because they're lucky to get a job at the moment.

But of course, you are likely an edgy, entitled Millennial generation kid. Feel free to carry on.

>>5688762
>I made some flippant comment and you're autistic enough to try and drill me about it, child.
No you made a vast generalization on a science board and I used science to highlight your ignorance by requesting the statistics you were basing your faulty opinion on and demonstrating their lack of value.

>I graduated from the Uni. of Idaho in 1995 with a Bachelors, back when that meant something. I moved to this town the next year to do a mentored program for graduate mech. engs in what is now Entergy. At the time, pretty much I fixed small shit and followed the other engineers like a dog to learn what to do. I'm now a supervisory engineer for the generators and have two younglings who are much in the same position as I was, and are damn grateful for the opportunity. I'm trying to teach them everything I can because they're lucky to get a job at the moment.
Pics or it didn't happen

>But of course, you are likely an edgy, entitled Millennial generation kid. Feel free to carry on.
Says the edgy guy who says things like the majority of something you know very little about are mouth breathing hillbillies rednecks whose parents don't trust "them librul commie ath'ist gov'mint teachin' people"

>>5688772

>those responses
>confirmed for autism

>>5688772

>Pics or it didn't happen

Pics of what? Me graduating? Pics of my office? Pics of my cock, is that it?

Holy fuck. Can't talk to this guy. I'm out.

>>5688428
The key to learn math is very simple.

PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE

Buy yourself a math book that has all the answers on it already. It will really help you learn your algebra and make sure you are ready for trigonometry.

I really fucking mean it, don't fucking read the book and try to analyze all the theories without knowing your algebra.

>>5688776

autistic enough to be homeschooled, i'd wager, from all the butthurt in those comments

>>5688792

>>5688779
>Pics of what? Me graduating? Pics of my office? Pics of my cock, is that it?
Graduation pic or office pic would be fine, I guess if you have a real camera with deep enough analog zoom lens we can see how shit stained your cock is to determine if you are a genuine engineer.

OP I'm in the same situation.

Who cares that you have to spend a little more time on math, you can still advance it'll just take longer.

>>5688734

This. I don't understand why people chose to home school their kids. If you are so worried about their education then send them to a good school - or just give them additional lessons after school.

You are basically impairing your child for life just because you had a bad time at school.

>>5688796

>putting pics of myself on 4chan

>>5688772
>>5688772
>>5688772

lol not sure if troll or just over 9000 autistic. Damn a combination of autism and home-schooling would remove all possibility of normal social interaction

>>5688687

Enjoy having an aspie daughter

Seriously what you want to do is tutor them not homeschool them.

>>5688803

>spouting engineer meme

3edgy5me

>>5688827
You must have missed how I layered it onto a tiny cock joke so I must be 3 edgy and meta 5 you.

ohh man, homeschoolers always drop out or fail. without question. the culture shock does in the few who manage to pull through. they just dont have the social skills to land a job.

only thing worse is mlp autism

>>5688832

Jerk yourself off more. Maybe you'll stop the tears rolling down your cheeks

>>5688849
I don't really know what that means, but seems like if I wanted to stop the tears rolling down my cheeks when I jerked off, I would just jerk off upside down so they would roll down my head.

Just some advice since you are the one who might have that problem since you brought it up out of no where for no particular reason.

Home-schooling, even if the parents are fucking geniuses, just doesn't add up. They would have to farm out subjects they aren't familiar enough with eventually.

I know my own field pretty well, but it doesn't matter, because it isn't a fucking first grade subject. I could probably hack it up to about third or fourth grade with general knowledge and self-study, but it would be a full-time job, and how the hell would I be able to support a family and spend all day at home?

I can't imagine typical home-schooling being anything but lard studies, food stamp mathematics and mobility scooter driver's ed, with a solid core of bible thumping. With a focus on the old testament of course, because even if Jesus supposedly is your lord and saviour, God forbid you actually read any of the compassionate peace-loving hippie claptrap in the new testament.

>>5688888
often the people homeschooling were teachers themselves. and often several families homeschool and share the workload of teaching.

but I think you're right.I knew a couple of peopel who were homeschooled up until age 11 and 13 respectively.
the 11 year old one was fine but the 13 year old was really weird and not very popular andonly found his niche in the last year of highschool.

>>5688888
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschooling#Test_results
Except Home-schoolers (not just ones with genius parents) outperform public school students with diverse specialized teachers.

>>5688428
18? You're just starting out, kiddo.
You have plenty of time to catch up.
If you want to be a doctor then you have to work for it and you'll have to work hard.
If you want to give up and say your dreams are crushed then fine, but don't be a faggot and blame it on your parents.
Even if they did make a mistake by poorly homeschooling you, your life and future is your responsibility now.
If you have a dream then don't give up.
>>5688443
Ofcourse you can't imagine understanding something you don't really know anything about.
That's why it's called learning and not "instantly knowing everything".
You make progress one step at a time.

>>5688888

dem 8's

>>5688888

>>5688888

All high school level knowledge is readily available on the internet, even from wikipedia.

>>5688993
Beyond highschool even.
MIT offer their lectures for free on the web.

>>5688514
doctors can only into babby tier math. it is known. doctor math is babby tier difficulty.

>>5688428

Why didn't your parents just buy a house near a good school?

lol @ people who think that primary school teachers are specialists in their subjects

there's no such thing as a good school.

school is fundamentally about telling kids where to sit. it's a disciplinary institution. it tests kids' compliance, and in doing so, destroys their interest in education.

teachers are literally trained to repeat all content they teach six times, to make sure everyone in the class absorbs it. if only 90% of the class has absorbed it from the 5th repetition, the teacher still has to repeat it one more time for the slowest 10%.

class always runs at the pace of the slowest student.

reading is how people learn. independently, you can learn much faster.

>>5689022
>there's no such thing as a good school.
>school is fundamentally about telling kids where to sit. it's a disciplinary institution. it tests kids' compliance, and in doing so, destroys their interest in education.
>teachers are literally trained to repeat all content they teach six times, to make sure everyone in the class absorbs it. if only 90% of the class has absorbed it from the 5th repetition, the teacher still has to repeat it one more time for the slowest 10%.
>class always runs at the pace of the slowest student.
>reading is how people learn. independently, you can learn much faster.


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