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riddle me this /sci/:

Is 1 in 10 the same as 10 in 100? If not, why?

>> No.5617448

There's a 10% chance in both, so I'd say it's yes.

>> No.5617455

>>5617442

you can't get 10 successive failures out of 10 in in 10 if you remove your draw while it's quite probable in 100, so no.

>> No.5617467

Yes, because they're both 50%; it happens or it doesn't.

>> No.5617480

Your question is ambiguous, and will therefore get 90 replies of idiots arguing over what you mean.

>> No.5617492

>>5617480

Ok, let's say you are in a lottery over a goat.

You can either pick one draw with a 1 in 10 chance or 10 draws with a 1 in 100 chance. Which would generally be better and why?

>> No.5617509

>>5617492
10/100
because even if you don't win, you at least felt the rush of winning a goat to fuck 10 times instead of 1.

>> No.5617512

>>5617492
>10 draws with a 1 in 100 chance

Still ambiguous.

If there is 1 winning ticket in a pile of 100, and you pick 10 of them, that's the same as 1 in 10.

If your picks are totally independent (like rolling a 100 sided die 10 times), then you are less likely to win than 1 in 10.

>> No.5617515 [DELETED] 

>>5617492
makes no difference.
equal probability.

>> No.5617530

>>5617512
why would he be less likely to win? 1 in 100 is of course 10 times less likely to win but he still would be throwing the dice 10 times.

>> No.5617538

>>5617530
Probabability of winning with 1 draw = 0.1

Probability of winning with 10 draws = 0.01 + 0.99*0.01 + 0.99*0.99*0.01 + ... + 0.99^9 * 0.01 = 0.09561... < 0.1.

Probability doesn't give a fuck about your intuition.

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5617543

>>5617442
I don't see any reason why not, wait a second..are you making us do your homework?

>> No.5617547

>>5617543
Nope, psychology (LMAO PSYCHOLOGY) student here, we ain't dicking around with probabilities. The question just popped into my head.

>> No.5617569

>>5617547

why not actually? carl young used probability and statistics extensively

>> No.5617572

>>5617530
10 picks with 1% probability =/= 10% probability
if that was true you could win lottery easily
each pick is always 1% if you mix all the tickets again after each pick

>> No.5617576

>>5617547
ok cholo
it is the same, because you're still rolling

look at these numberfags

>> No.5617588

>>5617442
no

>> No.5617595

Statistics seems like the kind of math that would be useful to a psych major.How would you read or do research without it?

>> No.5617602

>>5617595
if do then do

>> No.5617608

>>5617538
Now apply your genius theory to the probability of winning with 100 draws.

>> No.5617613

>>5617595
statistics yeah, but we didn't touch probability, to be honest

>> No.5617859

>>5617608
Huh? 100 draws with a chance of 0.001 comes out to about 0.0952. What's the problem?

>> No.5618064

>>5617512
it's the same
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergeometric_distribution

>> No.5618498

>>5617613
This is a problem. It's like trying to make a theory of gravity without understanding what motion is. If you don't understand basic probability, you don't understand statistics. And if you don't understand statistics, you can't do research.

>> No.5618524

>>5617859
Youre a very good troll or one really retarded individual