/sci/ - Science & Math

>>>/adv/

If you're over 23, no employer will want to hire you. They see people like that as lazy, or unreliable.
I run a business, and turn people down all the time for just this reason.

There is no maximum age, people go back to college in their 40's and work experience is infinitely more valuable to an employer than that piece of paper you hang on your wall.

>>5590857
None. I know a guy that finished med school at 51.

>>5590867

So you would turn down someone who got the maximum score without even letting him try?

>>5590867

what shit company do you work for that mandates people to have to go to college at 18 and graduate in 4 years?

what shit company do you work for that deals with circumstance only in terms of absolutes?

>plate of shit?

What? I'm not allowed to live my life for a couple years and settle down after getting out of high school? If I didn't do that I would hate myself.

>>5590896

>>5590867
>mfw
>24 year old triple Ph.d graduate with work experience from 16 years of age

In to the trash you go

>>5590925
you are living your life retard

Its called hard work

Adults have no playtime or naptime, they have responsibilities of being contributing member of society

>>5590895
real companies who hire real people who actually be worth the investment not retards who can't finish college in 4 years because they doing heroin in a bathtub half the time

>>5590876
>experience is infinitely more valuable
this is what people drop out of college actually believe

>>5590857
>useful
depends on the major
>acceptable
stop caring what other people think about your desire to pursue an education.

>>5591294
>drop out of college

Ask any hiring company if they prefer an engineer or an engineer with an internship. The result will be 100% the latter (despite the semester delay in graduating)

>>5591275
>24 year old triple Ph.d graduate with work experience from 16 years of age

How's life in Duckburg?

>>5591367
>avatarfag
>ever not a troll

Don't make this mistake /sci/

I will be 27 when I graduate.

None. Why would there be one?

>>5590867
>>5591275
>>5591294

Are you sure?

>>5591321
ask the same company whether they'd like an engineer that failed calculus II 3 times but shoveled dirt on his summers or someone without fucking downs

>>5591405
Ask an employer which is more pathetic: the comeback or the fact that it took you 30 minutes to come up with it?

don't listen to /sci/.
doesn't matter at what age you graduate, companies don't care how old you are as much as your work experience and your major. If you worked for 8 years out of high school and then got your degree, you'll have a leg-up over people who just got a degree and have no work experience.
Only difference? You'll be applying for an entry-level position in your field 12 years after high-school, whereas for the straight-to-college crowd it will be 4 years out of high school (unless in the interim you did some relevant work in your field that would give you an extra leg-up).

>>5591413
don't be mad at me since you're shoveling dirt on your summers instead of doing something productive.

>>5591425
Well I only shovel dirt to build up experience for plowing your mom

Acceptable to whom?
For what reason?

Graduating at a later age than is common is a sign of some drama in someone's life.

It doesn't have anything to do with how useful or good someone is at something; you have to look a lot deeper than their age for that.

Shame on this numbnuts >>5590867 for evaluating people with the most shallow and stupid criterion possible -- even for entry-level jobs.

>>5590895

Companies like that console themselves by assuming it has never done them wrong -- that an ultra-conservative policy of never looking any deeper also means they always got the best candidates.

That, as everyone knows, is complete bullshit.
Everyone knows people who are exceptional that didn't do everything the most common way.
Everybody.

So how can a company be proud of what is literally IGNORANCE?

>>5590925
>I'm not allowed to live my life for a couple years

No one said anything about 'living' -- and it shows how silly and vacuous your attitude is that you have to go to the most extreme end of an example.

>>5591321
>Ask any hiring company if they prefer an engineer or an engineer with an internship.

That wasn't remotely the choice given.

That poster suggested experience VERSUS degree,
not experience AND degree versus degree.

OP let me suggest some reasons people do common things later than others:

military service
entrepreneurship
emigrated
impoverishment
good job collapsed
caring after others
their own health was bad

And probably many more.
Do you know what they have in common? Motivation.
Those might be the very best candidates for good jobs because they are people motivated not by the swarm but by themselves.
All they need to do is express that quality, and they can take many jobs.

>>5591484
He never said any such thing, the only question asked was what is the latest one can graduate.
And my response was not to OP but to the troll who thinks job experience is something only "college dropouts" have

>>5591484
>not experience AND degree versus degree.
Pretty sure the word graduate implies that both cases involve him having a degree. I think it's you who misread here

>>5591499

What if you changed your mind later? Started it at 25yo and graduated in time?

>>5591499
>entrepreneurship

why is it in that list?

My step-mother finally attended college recently and got a degree in speech therapy.

She applied for a job three months before her graduation and was working one month later with our counties public school system at the age of 42.

She spent 20 years of her life working at a restaurant.

>>5591405
>hurrdurr everyone who doesnt go to college at 18 and graduate after 8 semesters is too retarded to pass calc
How are you such a retarded douchebag? Seriously, how are you so dumb and convinced you're not and how does someone so dumb get so fixated on a retarded idea?

106-year-old war vet receives high school diploma

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/03/106-year-old-war-vet-recieves-high-school-diploma.html

I would say at least 1 month before you die, otherwise it seems like kind of a waste

>>5591484
but it's *literally* experience AND degree, versus degree 6 months earlier in your life that we are talking about, there just isnt any fucking comparison

This is one of the dumbest threads I've seen on /sci/, and that's saying something.

>>5591484
I suppose you could assume that the poster is considering sitting on his ass for months not doing anything at all, but that's not an option most people have, you know what with the whole food and shelter thing

>>5591516
>start company out of high school
>be extremely successful in starting company
>realize after running company for a couple years you dont really know how to run a business and will never make more than 20k a year from it without learning (this is like top 5% most successful startups)
>go to college as an investment to be able to make much more money from your business or from the next business you start
not that fucking hard to figure out, if you think being successful as an entrepreneur means youre fucking bill gates you are an idiot

>>5590867
Absolute bullshit. I will be 31 by the time I graduate and I've had plenty of offers, both for internships and graduate employment schemes.

You are talking out of your arse.

>>5591499

what is the most practical liberal arts degree you can think of?

Like will a BA in English lead to a good technical writer job?

>>5591550
Of course he is, he's a troll. Being a bit older can actually benefit you, because it's assumed that you've gone through some shit and are know more dedicated and knowledgeable than some 22-year-old idiot whose parents paid for everything.

>>5591554
How is this remotely relevant to the thread?
And the only way to make a liberal arts degree practical is to get a language degree and because a translator, pretty much anything else and your job if you find one will only be tangentially related to your degree.

>>5591549
>if you think being successful as an entrepreneur means youre fucking bill gates you are an idiot

I haven't even implied it.

Anyway, there are many different cases.

I think that starting entrepreneurship alone tipically isn't a great idea.

There should be at least two partners, one with a relevant knowledge in the company's field and one in economics and finance.