/sci/ - Science & Math

They are misogynist because they fear the natural superiority of women. Science is a girl thing.

>>5556596
I think girls could make better science teachers than men if there were more of them because I think they have a gift for language (expression). But, I don't think science is a girl thing because men are usually better at quieting their emotions which allows, on the average, them to think in patterns without a bias to it's context. Don't get me wrong, there are still loads of bias in men but those biases tend more towards determinism/free-will related stuff than anything else.

>>5556606
>girls could make better science teachers

No, fuck off. We don't need more feminists in education.

Pretty sure nobody is disagreeing with how valid a gender studies degree is. People generallyd disagree with how valuable it is, though.

What kind of job were you expecting to get with a degree like this? I literally cannot think of anything outside of those very limited and very specific functions in companies looking to expand their market (which are mostly given to people with broader diplomas anyways).

>>5556606
>girls could make better science teachers than men

Pic related is the proof.

>>5556594
some are, most arnt.

>>5556617
Are you? Oh wait, you're not a STEM major.

>>5556612
All feminist means is believe that women should have equal rights to men. Of course we need those in education. It's the fanatical over-the-top ones that you don't want, but that's the same for anything. The girl in the picture you posted should never be allowed to influence a child. What a mess of a person.

>>5556623
Feminism is in principle okay, but experience tells that everyone who calls themselves a feminist is actually crazy and stupid.

>>5556623

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/eliminating-feminist-teacher-bias-erases-boys-falling-grades-study-finds

Is it any surprise that boys' grades are falling when the majority of teachers are female?

>>5556621
i am a STEM major, and im not a misogynist

>>5556627
Pretty sure women can't be misogynistic anyways.

>>5556629
wtf?

>>5556627
>i am a STEM major

>>5556629
Zoology is actually a STEM field. Doesn't really matter, so is ethnobiology and astrobiology.

>>5556632
Have you learned limits by now?

>>5556633
>astrobiology

>>5556625
Because they are the more vocal ones, and a lot of feminists don't want to admit to being a feminist because of those ones. And yeah they say some crazy stupid stuff. There are actually some decent ones though that really just want equality and that's it. I am a feminist, but I don't like to admit it to people because they immediately think of the crazy ones. Unless you actually are a misogynist, you are probably a feminist too, just not a crazy one.

>>5556636

I am a benevolent misogynist

>>5556634
nah, i dont study math. i did it back in school, but i dont remember ever learning about limits (i must have skipped that particular class. actually, i was never really into math, so i'd skip classes every so often if i was bored of it or didnt feel like it)

>>5556637
how does that work?

>>5556640

It means I hate women but I am still kind to them.

>>5556647
Go back to >>>/r9k/ you pathetic neckbeard.

>>5556647
why would you be kind to what you hate?

>>5556594
Mostly, yeah, from personal experience (I'm one of them).

Most of these people are extremely close-minded. They believe science/technology is the only worthwhile type of knowledge, and completely dismiss knowledge that cannot reach the same level of certainty - e.g. psychology, social sciences, philosophy, management, etc. (from the most to the least scientific).

This leads them to dismissing existing results outside of hard sciences. These results were obtained through decades of hard work, conceptual and experimental... STEM majors readily replace them with their own opinions, usually based largely on emotions, prejudice, and personal experience. They end up holding completely retarded and wildly irrational opinions in everything that's not "hard sciences" , including the subject of women and feminism. And they believe that knowing integrals makes their opinion more valid than that of specialists in these fields.

The fact that they're stuck with mostly other men doesn't help. All of that being said, gender studies degrees are (mostly) shit, from what I've seen the field is way too politicized to bring about much trustworthy results. Social sciences proper is a different story.

I think men and women have equal intellectual capability, but women often find their needs are more adequately met by pursuing other activities.

>>5556647
Do you believe they shouldn't be treated equally to men? Do you hate other groups of people too?

>>5556651
>>5556652

haha trolled hard

>>5556660
dude, you suck at trolling.

>>5556661
>>5556664

In reality I am a strict meritocrat. People should judged according to their merit, not gender. Of course, being a woman reduces your merits significantly.

>>5556667
>In reality I am a strict meritocrat. People should judged according to their merit, not gender. Of course, being a woman reduces your merits significantly.

>>5556613
>Pretty sure nobody is disagreeing with how valid a gender studies degree is. People generallyd disagree with how valuable it is, though.

About as valid as evolutionary psychology and sociology.

>>5556667

>>5556674
>>5556681

Infantile cartoons.

>>5556669

you haev a poopoo fetish

>>5556685

"Secure tripcodes are for Jerks."

>>5556707

Infantile remarks.

>>5556625

Experience tells me that you are a very fuzzy thinker and need to study English a little bit more.

>>5556709

Raging faggot.

>Are STEM majors misogynists
>/sci/?

Nope.

>gender studies
>denying all scientific evidence that points to physical differences in the ways male and female brains process information. because it's politically incorrect to acknowledge those facts
>an education on how to pretend men and women are the exact same inside

look, we're equal sure. but we're also different. equal but different.

gender studies is a useless degree.

>>5556715

Unless it is awarded from an Ivy League school. In which case it could be far more valuable than your hard-earned engineering degree from Northwest Texas State A&M

>>5556655
I don't think you're a misogynist, pal, but I do think your main point correct.

>All of that being said, gender studies degrees are (mostly) shit, from what I've seen the field is way too politicized to bring about much trustworthy results. Social sciences proper is a different story.
This is pretty platitudinous and misleading. Every field is heavily politicized and the only reason why you would say one isn't is because you're dismissing or ignorant of it's controversies.

>>5556798

Claiming a field like gender studies or sociology isn't more contaminated by politics than a field like math or physics is simply delusional

>>5556803
Exactly. You see how I should have included that in my statement to avoid it from being misleading.

>>5556798
>Every field is heavily politicized
Not to the same extent. And not all fields are "heavily" politicized. In mathematics, I'm sure people fight for the best positions and there are ideological power struggles, and that might affect who receives funding for what type of research. But it's silly to think that this is in any comparable to what happens in the humanities. This is simply because in the humanities, good results, as they rely less on absolute proofs and more on "fuzzy" logic, have more trouble imposing themselves "on their own".

That does not mean that the humanities are worthless. These weaknesses are inherent to these fields, and it would be plain stupid to not pursue research e.g. in economics, simply because we cannot completely avoid political influences. It's simply more difficult to avoid pernicious influences.

Nonetheless, within the humanities, some fields are even more affected than others. And gender studies is probably the worst of them all. It's crazy that this field, that's all about figuring out how political beliefs and culture influence us, is unable to figure out that a "scientific community" consisting exclusively of political activists may not achieve objective results.

>>5556679
How is EP not a valid field of study?

>>5556613
>conflating a degree's value with its economic value

I thought /sci/ would be better than this.

I'll leave this here.

>>5556594
all homosexuals are

>>5556862
Who is that?

>>5556855
Where did I "conflate" a degree with its economic value? I don't think you understand what that word means.

Furthermore, I meant both social and economic value, e.g. also how useful it is for society.

>>5556936
I said you conflated a degree's value with its economic value. That's an acceptable usage of the term.
You say you were discussing a gender studies degree's use to society, but all you mentioned in your post was the ability of a gender studies undergrad to get a job. You seem confused about what the social value of an education is. Education isn't valuable merely for making money.

>>5556862
sauce requested

>>5556867
I dunno, but she's sexy.

>>5556594
Not as much as women study majors are misandrists .

Truth be told science has had a higher ratio of men to women than the vast majority of other professions for over a hundred years.

The only reason you hear the opposite is that it is a social engineering technique meant to empower, inspire, and push a group of people (women in this case) to work harder in the sciences.

People like Marie Curie, Rosalind Franklin, Stephanie L. Kwolek, and Jane Goodall were not only respected people in their fields and had men working for them, but their findings were taught and they were given credit for it. (inb4 they were hated by colleagues - scientists will always disagree with other people's findings initially that is why we have peer review)

gfy for supporting sexism.

/thread

>>5556594

You will never find a women more logical and correct as a man, in all aspects of debatable tactics and/or topics including a wide array of vast knowledge on many different subjects and their infinite axioms.

Female/math here, and I've found that no one gives a shit.

>>5556991
>women to men
typo

I am. I believe men to be objectively smarter than women.

>>5556867
A wonderful lady.

>>5556630
It is 100% possible for women to be misogynistic

>>5557013
Are you sure about that? People come in a pretty wide array of dumb ass, I'm pretty sure I can find some idiot male who's dumber than a female.

>>5556862
>strawwoman arguments
>all feminists are lesbians
>using hysterical as an insult against "uppity" women
>all feminisits think all sex is rape all the time

>>5556955
You don't need a degree to get education. You can get that from books.

The only reason to get a degree instead of just learning things on your own is the economic value of the degree

>>5556655
>Most of these people are extremely close-minded. They believe science/technology is the only worthwhile type of knowledge, and completely dismiss knowledge that cannot reach the same level of certainty - e.g. psychology, social sciences, philosophy, management, etc. (from the most to the least scientific).

I think you'll find that most are more aware of the scientific aspects and results of those areas that most of their proponents.

>>5556991
>People like Marie Curie, Rosalind Franklin, Stephanie L. Kwolek, and Jane Goodall were not only respected people in their fields and had men working for them, but their findings were taught and they were given credit for it. (inb4 they were hated by colleagues - scientists will always disagree with other people's findings initially that is why we have peer review)

There are others that were basically repressed. Emily Noether for example. However she was repressed by university bureaucrats not her mathematical peers (many men claimed they couldn't possibly claim to be good enough to be her peer :-)