/sci/ - Science & Math

I should mention I'm 25 now

in theory you could fly around really close to a black hole and then return to earth

the people on earth would be "in the future" and you would still be relatively young

>Is there any way to travel at relativistic speeds so I can speed up time/preserve my age until medical technology can help me?
>2013
>ISHYGDDT

Sit in a spaceship accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2 for about a year and you'll be near c.

>>5400357

How can I do this?

>>5400348
THIS.

Put another way, OP, he's saying it's entirely possible and that you should totally go for it.

>>5400361
Help engineer it.

>>5400361
you can't, no human has ever (relative to the earth) been moving at speeds large enough for relativistical effects to become relevant

>>5400383

But if I was capable of doing that I wouldn't be so desperate to get help....

>>5400343
Get in a cryogenic hybernation chamber. Wakt up after 100 years without aging 1 hour.

>>5400387
You forgot to make a point.

>>5400397
the point is that the answer to OPs question is no

Relativistic time travel is still out of reach of modern science, sadly.

Your best bet for reaching the future is probably cryonic time travel. After you die, your body can be frozen and preserved, and future tech should be able to revive you, eventually. This costs something like $30k, which is easily funded by life insurance... which is generally cheap if you're young, but not necessarily so if your condition is terminal. Even so, $30k is vastly cheaper then the trillions it'd cost to send out a relativistic ship with life support for any number of people.

>>5400409
That's your proposition. Back it up and it's a point.

>>5400411
Where exactly can you make it happen ? Other than the scifi movies you've watched.

>>5400343
>Is there any way to travel at relativistic speeds

No. Sorry.

>>5400418
As stated before, no human has ever moved at relativistic speeds (as before speeds relative to the earth).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vehicle_speed_records

The fastest manned speed was at 40 000 km/h or about 10 000 m/s, 1/30 th the speed of light.

No significant time dilation occurs at these speeds.

>disabled at 23
>Pretty much just waiting to die
>always alone
>Regen medicine teasing me with 2022 as possible date of cure
>Picking up life at nearly 40, if I'm lucky

Fuck sci ;_; ............

>>5400424

Google 'Cryonics Institute'. Cost is $30k, generally covered by life insurance, plus some minor fees and transportation expenses. Life insurance to cover the preservation, plus membership fees, make this cost about $300/year, for healthy young people like most of you reading this thread.

>>5400445
Learn to live with yourself and find happiness in your life. You were suffering of that before your disability.

>>5400445
Find a hobby to pass the time and make you feel good about yourself, especially one involving other people. What else can you do?

>>5400445

The trick is to have no desires and be an empty mind.

That way you won't desire anything, and thus won't suffer.

I recommend vast stretches of not thinking.

>>5400443
That's not saying why you can't go faster

We can't cure your broken kidney or whatever BUT WE CAN SEND YOU OFF AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT

>>5400445

Okay, let's address the worst-case scenario. You absolutely cannot live like this and want to die rather then continue on. The cure will not occur until you're too old to benefit much from it, and you feel you'd rather die then wait that long. Perhaps you're close to giving up and just committing suicide anyway.

Well... you can probably still get life insurance, though it's likely to be more expensive then for a healthy person. You don't really need all that much coverage. Note that life insurance generally has a one-year waiting period before it pays out, should you happen to commit suicide. Can you wait one year? If so, buy life insurance, put it towards cryonics, and then kill yourself (in a way that won't cause brain damage) once the time is up. Probably try to make it look like an accident, to avoid legal consequences.

Of course, this isn't really a good idea. But it's better then just killing yourself immediately, and has a chance of giving you a better life in the unknowable future. And from that alone, you'll have hope, which helps. And who knows? Maybe in a year, when you'd be able to kill yourself under this plan, you won't feel like it anymore.

>>5400492
He likely has loads of cash from the malpractice lawsuit anyway no need for suicide

>>5400500

I was assuming a hypothetical worst-case ruined and broke scenario. A rich (or even moderately well-off) person with money to spend on getting the job done properly has a much easier time of it.

What did the malpractice result in?

>>5400538

http://guest.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=2596

Still trying to understand...

>>5400607

the condition is called empty nose syndrome, the name refers to a wide range of symptoms involving the brain, lungs, and airway; as a result of removal of turbinate tissue in the nasal cavity.

>>5400343
>malpractice incident
Why the fuck has no one asked OP what happened? Give us some background please OP

>>5400641

see

>>5400568
and
>>5400631

>>5400643
Interesting..

>malpractice
In what way? Surely they presented you with the complications. Did you sue and if so, did you win?

>>5400641

In November of 2010 I saw an ENT regarding surgery as a permanent solution for my allergies, surgeon recommends septoplasty+turbinate reduction via coblation, I decide to get it done in December.

Healing takes about 2 weeks, fast forward a month later and a lot of progressively weird shit has been happening. Mouth/teeth/nose/upperairway is basically so fucking dry the membranes have been bleeding out, and I can't think or concentrate for shit. It's so bad I'm literally failing all my classes and I would equate it to a lobotomy. Few days later I wake up in bed at 3am with convulsions and weird fucked up sensations running up and down my body with tachycardia that will not fucking go away and a sensation that feels like I'm constantly suffocating. Following this point I could not get a single minute of sleep a night for weeks.

After months of bullshit and dropping out of school, I had to fly to Cleveland to see a specialist (Rhinologist) ENT who is like the top doc on this condition, he diagnoses me with ENS. Which amounts to basically "you're fucked, good luck with life"

Fast forward 1 year and a half, a suicide attempt, and here I am

>>5400656

Surgeon lied about literally everything, I even point blank asked him about ENS pre-op and he completely lied.

I don't know what went wrong, the specialist I saw was shocked. He told me I was the first patient he has ever seen with ENS as a result of the procedure I had because of how safe it is (coblation). As far as I can tell, based on the dozens of other patients and specialists I've talked to it seems the surgery itself it pretty dangerous and shouldn't be preformed, despite how routine it is.

Have not sued, I never planned on living this long so I didn't pursue it seriously.

>>5400678
y u no http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjPfSUi-S64

>>5400680

1. Really expensive
2. Does not cure symptoms, improvement is variable and reduction of level of disability is impossible to verify, if any
3. Surgery requires further damage to tissue, some patients end up worse

>malpractice
>ever ruining your life
shouldn't you be super rich and own the hospital by now?

>>5400683
Well that sucks dick man, I really feel for you so much so that I cannot hold all these feels.

>>5400678
Isn't the stature of limitations a maximum of 10 years for medical malpractice? Just sue him, money might help.. You can get an ENT to look into your shit then

>>5400687

It's different in every state, but like I said, lawsuits take years and I never planned on living long enough to see one through. Honestly at this point I'm just trying to save up enough from my city part time job so I can afford a glock and put a bullet in my brainstem. No amount of money can do anything about this condition, tissue engineering will be able to cure it completely eventually, but even that can put me off at times considering the risks surgical intervention in the nasal cavity can cause

>>5400685

well, thanks man.

Just the fact that someone has heard my story makes me feel better.

Stay healthy

>>5400674
>not acquiring hookworms to cure your allergies
Sorry you found out about them late, bro

>>5400696
>doesn't plan on living long
>wastes money on a surgery to cure something as trivial as allergies
ok bud

>>5400492

All methods of killing yourself cause brain damage, from oxygen starvation to neurons if nothing else.

OP here, sorry guys but I have to go.

If anyone has any questions you can post here and I'll try and respond tomorrow if the thread is still alive. Thanks for the encouraging words, and I owe you guys an apology for my pessimistic attitude.

Stay healthy

>>5400343
Freeze yourself, OP. Have a note on your pod or whatever "To be unfrozen alive".

How about some of those implant materials they mention in the Wikipedia article? Also any use sort of training yourself out of feeling like you're suffocating because of the reduced sensation of airflow?