/sci/ - Science & Math

>>5385951

I want to make the best AI out there.

What the fuck is that picture?

>>5385985
I am not sure.

To learn how a computer works

>>5386000
Do you know how a computer works ?

300k starting

>>5386017
Why not Petrochemical engineering then ?

Clearly it is the most interesting of the engineering disciplines. Plus great pay.

>>5385951

so i can be in an oversaturated field and be 70k in student loan debt

working at starbucks to pay t hat off will be a pain

>>5386069
>>5386069
>most interesting of the engineering disciplines

What makes you think so ?

>>5385951
I love working with computers and I love science, and my goal is not to become a mindless code-monkey.

>>5386178
So what are you doing to fulfill your goal ?
I imagine the only thing a CS degree would be good for is becoming a code monkey.

>>5386191
>what are you doing to fulfill your goal ?

Right now I'm preparing to study CS in the Netherlands. I'm taking Game Theory and Calculus classes in Coursera. As soon as I get the chance to specialize I want to do research on Artificial Intelligence.

>>5386208
I have the same interest as you ( AI ) .
Does Game Theory really help ?
I might have to learn it on my own because our school does not have it apparently.

>>5385951
It spoke to as it was my very being. It was a calling of sorts. I feel like I was born to study it.

>>5386239

It was not so with me.
I tried a lot of different things , CS was the one thing that stuck.

>>5386005
yes

>>5385951
>What encouraged you to take up this field of study ?
Nothing. I had liked the craft of programming for a long time, and taking my skills to the next level by studying the science and math behind it all seemed like the obvious next step.

I was interested in math as a kid.
When I first programmed a computer (age 14) I knew I was very interested in it.
I kept my options open until 2nd year university or so, but then I said "yeah, this is definitely what I want to do and it turns out I'm good at it."

>>5386216
I'm sure that it will help, perhaps in the long run. The course starts in January so you still have time to sign up. My school doesn't offer it either so I'm preparing myself with the help of this wonderful website.

Go to Coursera's website and paste this in the end. (spam-block)

/course/gametheory

>>5386283
That step is not obvious to me at all. You can create fine programs without the knowledge of what goes on behind the curtains , if you strive to learn it then definitely there must be some other motive.

>>5386295
Thanks man !
I'll be sure to check it out, I have already started on the Game Theory using YouTube.

>>5386289
I guess things worked out brilliantly for you anon.
I have the same passion as you but I'm pretty sure I won't be able to get into a decent school. ;_;

>>5386308
First, learning things is my prime ultimate motivation in the first place; second, while this knowledge is not a REQUIREMENT, it certainly a major IMPROVEMENT of your skills.

-Uncle is an IBM fellow
-Natural understanding of abstract concepts
-Old as the internet in my country
-Grew up on computers
-Good spacial reasoning skills
-Interested in computing, how computers work, how you take 1 dimensional electric pulses and create integers
-Parents were an engineer and an actuary
-Good money
-Challenging curriculum

>>5386329
That sheds a bit more light on it , thanks anon.

I have the same motives as you but I find it hard to reason them out.

>>5386334
Which country ?

I want to make video games XD

Hard to say. A lot of different things. My interest in discrete maths coupled with my interest for the inner workings of technology and information, is a good way to describe it, I suppose. I'm still not even sure where I'll specialize, though.

Is it possible to start a CS degree without any experience of programming?

>>5386386
Yes

>>5386386
Certainly. The program usually does not assume any prior experience.

I was programming since I was 12. Computers were the coolest things.

>>5386445
Are you going to devote your entire life to a subject just because you thought it was cool when you were 12 ?

>>5386455

>>5386336
Canada

>>5386485
What's so challenging ( different ) about the curriculum ?

>>5386295
Can we get a /sci/ study group for this class?

>>5386216
Game theory has a very small intersection with CS (yes, using google you can find lots of papers, but the field is relatively small), and that field is of little interest to either game theorists or other people in CS.

That said, game theory is very interesting in its own right.

>>5385951
I hate this field of study because we have so many code monkeys thinking they can be the next zuckerberg.

So how many of are you are actually good at Discrete maths?

>>5386555
>next Zuckerburg

Who wants to be Zuckerburg ?

He's a fuckin' douchebag who just happens to have a lot of money.

>>5386558
I admit that I am not.

I don't even know what it's supposed to be about.

I have yet to enroll myself in an undergrad course.

>>5386560
You know what I mean, they saw "Social Network", have you seen startup ads. They want to make the new facebook, twitter. They're not in it for Computer Science.

If I do Computer Science, can I do robotics?

>>5386561
Doesn't really matter. As long as you are decent at maths. You'll learn discrete maths in your first year.

>>5386558
I (>>5386283 >>5386329) am.

>>5386563

They're not unrelated.

If you want a job I'd say no.
If you have some idea of what you're going to do using your knowledge of CS and Robotics then go for it brother.

>>5386569
Hmm, I think I'll keep robotics as a hobby then.

>>5386565
So what exactly describes discrete math ?

>>5386571
Sets
Relations
Functions
Basic combinatorial principles
Discrete probability
Graphs
Trees
Finite automata
Regular languages

Has anyone here read SICP or the MIT lectures on it?

>>5386577
Well then I'd think I am fairly good at discrete math.

But I'm not good if good means solving the putnam problems like a piece of cake.
And I also don't know much about the last 3 topics that you mentioned.

>>5386579
Just started on SICP last week.

I won't be reading the Video lectures though.

>>5386577
That's high school knowledge. What do CS fags learn in university?

>>5386580
Don't worry bro, as I said, you'll learn it at your university.

>>5386584
CS

CS goes very well with my physics major. Plus I want to be able to program for myself.

So how many of you are in CS to go to do later research and further the field? or are you going to be the guy working at startups/Microsoft/Google?

>>5386588
>CS goes very well with my physics major

How ?

What do you think of this course?

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/nms/depts/informatics/study/current/handbook/Progs/ug/g400.aspx

>>5386590
Further into the field for me.
Want to into AI.

>>5386595
Seems okay but then again you must ask someone who has actually taken it.

>>5386595
Too bad, I don't know anyone.

I liked computers. But I also liked taking things apart and putting them back together, like my pens. So I went into computer engineering.

>>5386663
>like my pens