/sci/ - Science & Math

>>5320151
It thinks it is but no.

>>5320161
why not?

>>5320151
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaO69CF5mbY

I wouldn't consider it a hard-science like physics or chemistry, but it can definitely be considered a softer science, similar to biology. However, psychology is also an underdeveloped science at this point in the game. It hasn't been around for as long as physics and chemistry have, but I am curious to hear what psychologists will discover within the next few decades.

>>5320151
It is the impurest science due to the fact that there are no laws (ex. F=ma) to govern anything related. However, it is technically a science because all of its findings, no matter how vague, are found using the scientific method

No

what does シ mean in all variations?

>>5320483
"smirey face"

>>5320517
no it doesn't

still requesting what it means

>>5320520

ツ

It's Japanese katakana for "tsu". In its smaller form ドッテ, like so, it serves to double a vowel sound. Also, may serve as a glottal stop in the language.

Now stop making me become /jp/

>>5320526

Aaaaand, I balls’ed that up because I wasn't paying attention.

You were looking for シ (Jap Katakana for "shi") not ツ.

My bad.

>>5320526
>>5320531
besides the obvious wikipedia answers;
how is it pronounced, or like how is it used in its context

>>5320189

biology is a soft science?
lulz.

>>5320548
>2012
>still feeding trolls

>>5320189
>implying they have discovered anything in the last few decades beside give random drugs to people and hope it solves the problem, if not find other ways to destroy their brains, like electroshock or lobotomy

>>5320563
>implying that psychology is synonymous with psychiatry and/or drug discovery

but seriously clin. psych. and psychiatry have massive shortcomings and are less than what the words 'objective scientific medicine' suggest. Things truly are at the level of 'crisis in the field', here are some things from the psychiatry side (open access):

The six most essential questions in psychiatric diagnosis: a pluralogue parts 1-3:
http://www.peh-med.com/content/7/1/3
http://www.peh-med.com/content/7/1/8
http://www.peh-med.com/content/7/1/9

Psychopharmacological enhancement: a conceptual framework:
http://www.peh-med.com/content/7/1/5

>>5320483

Since you asked,

ツ = tsu
ッ = [double the consonant after this]
シ = shi
ソ = so
ン = n (only at the end of words)
ノ = no

Each of these are part of the "katakana" syllabry, which is usually used for foreign loanwords, onomatopoeia (see manga), and some Japanese words.

is programming an art?

>>5320189
>hard science
>soft science

stop using words you don't understand, it's embarrassing.

>>5320194
>haven't read anything from it, gonna make a judgement call, and assume some shit about it.

Its the brain that translates all perceptions into interpretations and commits those to memory in the form of consciousness. From these interpretations we process reality. The human mentality is an intuitively subjective medium, illogical in its foundry and irrational in its expressions. For it is an objective statement of fact to profess that the entirety of human perception is foundationally illogical in construction. As a purely logical mind can only express a linear logicality. Meaning it would either be a purely logical or purely illogical process of cognition. However a purely illogical mentality will be capable of expressing equal parts rational logicality and illogical reasoning. As this is counter intuitive to what is defined within the parameters of rationality and logic. Being that self definition is the only true governing force behind intrinsic classification.

Human beings can express rationality, but thats only because they are irrational beings.

Therefore, the only true science, by definition, is the study of this process. Which is psychology.

>>5320181

That's shameful. The great /sci/ hero Feynman doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. And you swallow that subversive agenda speaking shit whole. You just showed how a smart man can be brashly stupid with his opinions. Way to go.

>>5320630

congratulations, you can use fancy sentences to sound smarter.

>>5320658
>Autism stricken spergtard is jelly that he'll never understand the human psychology on any significant level.
>Probably does maths for fun.

>>5320151
better question: what is a science?
As we see some say, it needs to have laws, but why?
Isn't a science a science regardless of content? What, then, is a science without laws?
It seems to me that a science simply follows the prescribed scientific process. But who is to say what that process will forever be? Is the definition of science subject to those who define it?
Sorry for not helping.

>>5320660
Don't be silly. Not even sociologists are jealous of psychologists.

>>5320677
I am a psych, and guess what, im rich. Bitch.

"a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe"
>testable
The necessity for laws seems unimportant.
Was the study of physics, for example, not a science until that first guy decided to make a law that has fortunately been unable to be refuted so far?

>>5320151
Some is. Some is not.

Bam.

>>5320630
>>5320660
>posts inane nonsensical rubbish
>tops it off with an infantile cartoon
>>>/x/
>>>/co/
Don't come back

>>5320694
Someones mad. [cantspoiler]Its you[/cantspoiler]

>>5320680
Well of course, it's not like you HAVE to do science to do well in life.

>>5320696
>being this infantile
You will enjoy your ban retard.

>>5320700
I will enjoy it.

>>5320703
So will the rest of the board. You really are the most retarded person I've seen post on /sci/.

>>5320703

cartoons
>>> /mlp/

psychology
>>>/x/

this board is not for trolling
enjoy your ban

>>5320711
Just a randomfag here, but DAMN you mad.

>>5320709
How do you know that he is Dr. Jimmy Rustle in disguise testing his troll psychology theories?

>>5320714
First day here huh?

>>5320715
Autism.

>>5320714
gonna need some water for that burn

>>5320715
Because he always says "logicality" and posts infantile cartoons. He's was permabanned in august.

dang, I really wanted to see this thread go somewhere.

>>5320719
Sorry to hear you suffer from that condition Dr. Rustle, but they are making progress toward curing you people everyday, just don't kill yourself in the mean time, or do... I don't really care.

>>5320722
>In august.
I've been banned more times than you've jacked off to the thought of your mother.

>>5320630
>you will never have this much schizophrenia and aspergers all rolled up into one

>>5320726
keyword was permabanned

>>5320742
Still as many.

>>5320747
>as many.
If only that were true. I doubt the mods recognize you to permaban you every time.

>>5320752
Bitch im a celebrity.

>>5320756
hey look everyone 1man1jar is posting on our /sci/

>>5320630
>consciousness

Stopped reading there. Spiritualism goes to /x/.

http://archive.heinessen.com/x/thread/S10410434#p10413942
you should go back to /x/

>>5320630
>As a purely logical mind can only express a linear logicality

Look at this high schooler who can't inot temporal, modal or fuzzy logic.

>>5320774
>Quote mining.
Stay autism.

>>5320760
>He cannot into consciousness as a neurological principle.
Stay autism.

>>5320780
>unobservable metaphysics
>implying neurological principle

>>5320785
>I literally have autism.

>>5320780
I proved you wrong, bitch. You posted something utterly retarded and no further shitposting will cover up how ashamed you are of your ignorance.

>>5320790
I'm sorry to hear that. When did you get diagnosed?

>>5320151

Yes, it is.
Anyone who says it isn't doesn't know what psychology actually is/does and probably has all of his "knowledge" about psychology from mainstream televion.

I'm going to a psychologist for the first time in an hour, I hope they know what they're doing.

>>5321070

Actually you are going to a psychotherapist. Mind the difference.

>>5320189
>it can definitely be considered a softer science, similar to biology

Psychology can't be compared to biology. I'm sorry.

I started out majoring in psych because I really had no idea what I wanted to do. I eventually decided I wanted a science degree so I switched to biology.

Biology requires a basic understanding of physics and chemistry, especially if your focus is on molecular biology, genetics, biochem, etc, which mine was.

Psychology does not.

Psychology has as much legitimacy as sociology. It's all observe and infer; which is hilarious because no two human beings are alike.

>>5320633

I expected you to be exaggerating but I agree. He brings up social science and then uses the example of the claim that organic foods are healthier than conventional foods.

What does organic food have to do with any social science?

>>5321095
>which is hilarious because no two human beings are alike.

Couldn't this be considered a law that psychology has uncovered via experimentation?

>>5321095

see >>5321059

You don't really know that much about what psychology actually does, do you?

>>5321095

Dohohoho

Next you're saying physics is all about obserce and infer and how that's funny since there's no two rocks alike.

>>5321075
You're right, it went okay by the way.

Psychfag here and i would consider certain aspects of psychology to be science while others aren't

cognitive psychology
clinical psychology (to some degree)
neuropsychology

these branches of psych are all focused on proving facts in ways other than simple observation of subjects because we can confirm our hypotheses through real undeniable proof(for example we know schizofrenics have different neural patterns through brain scans)

other branches like social psychology and personality psychology have very little real world basis or ways to prove their hypotheses, its simply observe and if the behaviour lines up, it must be fact.

so really it has potential to be a science but i doubt it will ever be a hard science as it does not require as much math as chemistry and physics and in practice and so is in a sense easier, however it is harder to prove ones hypothesis in psychology, so in that aspect it could be considered harder. perhaps once we learn more about the brain and tie psych into it we'll be able to disprove all the bullshit and actually get more stuff done