/sci/ - Science & Math

>>5311397
I think that less than an hour after the first test flight a Vulcan ship will land on earth.

>>5311413
haha

In any case I hope whatever they're trying works

That's truly awesome. I may live to see a warp drive engine. Awesome i tell you.

It would be exciting to see the big players like Saran and Reynolds actually got together on this.

>>5311397
Well, from what I've heard about it it is possible we just don't have enough energy for it.
Since it's possible, why the fuck haven't we encountered any aliens yet?
You would think at least one other intelligent species would have figured this out and made the steps to have enough energy for it.

>>5311445
Reread the link. They think they can get around the ridiculously massive energy requirement which is why they're seeing if they can perturb spacetime or whatever it is.

As for your latter remark, that's a good point.

>>5311445
WHAT IF, We're first 0.0
like the time lordss..

>you’d need “exotic matter” (matter with “strange properties”) to distort space-time. And the amount of energy necessary to power that would be on par with — wait for it — the mass-energy of the planet Jupiter.
>implying we could ever get exotic matter
>implying we could ever get that much energy
>implying implications
>implying implying

>>5311461

Did you even read the link? They got the energy requirements down to the mass-energy of the voyager probe by changing the shape of the ring.

>>5311468
Not the guy you replied to, but does anyone think that that is still a huge amount of exotic matter?

The mass energy equivalent of the voyager probe is still 4 orders of magnitude above the tsar bomba nuclear weapon.

And I don't think we have even created a electron volt worth of exotic matter as of yet.

This probably won't be feasible till long after we are all dead.

>>5311479

Yes but it's a start. 10,000 Tsar Bombas is a small price to pay for the stars.

>>5311479
While you're right that it's a ridiculous amount of energy, its still orders of magnitude less than the energy equivalent of a mass the same as that of Jupiter (though it'd be spectacular).

And like the above anon said, it's a start

how do you get around relativity then?

If I went to the nearest star, then came back to report my findings, dozens of generations would have passed on earth.

What i'm wondering about is how fast we can actually go with this.
How does the required energy rise in relation to your desired speed?

>>5311495

you would not experience time dilation in this matter of travel as far as I can understand it

>>5311495
No it wouldn't, you're still traveling at a spee only a fraction of c in you local frame of reference.

>>5311504
speed*

Where would you go with this though?

What would be /sci's first target planet/star system/object

>>5311511
The faint blue galaxies just at the cosmological horizon.

>>5311513
Not the galactic centre?

I've heard that's where the grox live.

>>5311516
the radiation in the galactic center would likely kill you instantly.. its best to stay in the galactic habitual zone.. god only know what happens in deep space outside the galaxy.. i personally wouldn't want to test it, send a monkey first i guess

>>5311519
I don't think there's much in 'deep space' but endless empty space.

I'm not sure we'll ever bother leaving this galaxy even if we had the technology to do it. It's gonna take billions of billions of years to spread through this one galaxy. I don't think we'll ever leave.

>>5311521
Except if we all turn into robots!

>>5311519
Not if you're inside a General Products hull.

>>5311521
there is no such thing as empty space.. the fields permeate everywhere, who knows whats out there anti matter? maybe disturbing a completely 'empty field' causes some energy or matter to materialize?

I doubt the galactic center could ever be properly observed due to the insane amounts of radiation alone.
Then you have the gravity going on in there.

>>5311479
>The mass energy equivalent of the voyager probe is still 4 orders of magnitude above the tsar bomba nuclear weapon.

That's a striking comparison. Filed away in my head now, thanks.

>>5311511

The nearest habitable earth-like world. The empire of humanity begins.

i'll be excited when they find a source of 'matter',a.k.a magic fairy dust.

They're chasing after the wrong thing. They're better off working on creating micro black holes and manipulating them somehow.

>>5311853
maybe that avenue will be the same

>>5311456
>0.0
>like the time lordss..
Lurk moar

>>5311539
Yes, there's radiation and gravity going on there, but the radiation won't get bad until some hundreds of light years from the core, and the gravitational hazards won't be a problem until you get really close, like under a light year from the core black hole.

>>5311526
Love Larry

why the fuck is this posted EVERY DAY

I like the idea that NASA is actually working on this, but it's still so speculative.

Best of luck to them, I guess?

>>5311511
When I was very young, I learned that the Milky Way appears to us as a faint band of light, not a glorious spiral, because we're seeing it edge on. I felt a little ripped off, because we're kind of looking at our local universe from a dull perspective, you know?

There are so many fascinating phenomena to see if we have the capability, but if I had all the choice in the universe, I'd want to see the full disc of the Milky Way.

>>5311933
Oh lord, imagine what a telescope outside the milky Way could see.

>you’d need “exotic matter”
Note that "exotic matter" is science jargon for "we need a deus ex machina that will solve the most principle problem".

Maybe the idea would be valid if they approached it in a different manner. Instead of waiting for "exotic matter" to pop out of someone's butt, they could actively investigate what properties this matter would need to have, and what different things are readily available to us to work with that achieve various effects we are looking for. Only then can "exotic matter" be synthesized or emulated.

>>5311413
I lol'd.
Chances are that might not happen at all.