/sci/ - Science & Math

The evolutionist will claim that the presence of many individual species proves evolution. This shallow statement is devoid of reason, logic and scientific proof. Evolutionists line up pictures of similar looking species and claim they evolved one to another. Humans are a great example. There are hundreds of species of extinct monkeys and apes. Petrified skulls and bones exist from these creatures. Evolutionists line up the most promising choices to present a gradual progression from monkey to modern man. They simply fill in the big gaps with make-believe creatures to fit the picture. This procedure can be done with humans only because there are many extinct monkey and ape species. They never do this with giraffes and elephants. These pictures are placed in all evolutionists' text books to teach kids this nonsense. The picture is simply a grouping of individual species that does not prove evolution.

The evolutionist ignores the problem surrounding the human female egg and the male sperm in the evolutionary theory. The female egg contains the X-chromosome and the male sperm contains either an X-chromosome for the reproduction of a male or a Y-chromosome for the reproduction of a female. The female eggs all develop within the ovaries while she is a baby (fetus) within her mother's womb. Evolutionists claim environmental factors cause small changes in the offspring in the evolutionary chain. However, the environmental experience of the female cannot change the chromosomes within her eggs and cannot have any effect upon her offspring. Her body cannot go into the eggs contained within her ovaries at her birth to make an intelligent change. Females cannot be a part of the evolutionary theory for these reasons.

Scientists a century ago believed the smallest single living cell was a simple life form. The theory developed that perhaps lightning struck a pond of water causing several molecules to combine in a random way which by chance resulted in a living cell. The cell then divided and evolved into higher life forms. This view is now proven to be immature to the degree of being ridiculous. The most modern laboratory is unable to create a living cell. In fact, scientists have been unable to create a single left-hand protein molecule as found in all animals.

The scientific fact that DNA replication includes a built-in error checking method and a DNA repair process proves the evolutionary theory is wrong. The fact is that any attempt by the DNA to change is stopped and reversed.

There is no scientific evidence that a species can change the number of chromosomes within the DNA. The chromosome count within each species is fixed. This is the reason a male from one species cannot mate successfully with a female of another species. Man could not evolve from a monkey. Each species is locked into its chromosome count that cannot change. If an animal developed an extra chromosome or lost a chromosome because of some deformity, it could not successfully mate. The defect could not be passed along to the next generation. Evolving a new species is scientifically impossible. Evolutionists prove that getting a college education does not impart wisdom.

The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an organism of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is scientifically backwards according to the second law of thermodynamics that has never been proven wrong. Scientists cannot have it both ways. The second law of thermodynamics is proven to be correct. Evolution lacks any scientific proof. Evolution is simply an empty theory.

Two NASA two land rovers named Spirit and Opportunity explored Mars during 2004. The topography shows obvious signs of past liquid rivers flowing in numerous places. The rovers have proven that water was once abundant on the surface of Mars, but they have not been able to find any signs of life or any signs of past life on the planet. Mars has a proven history of flowing water on the surface and an atmosphere suitable to support life forms. The planet has had all of the conditions necessary to provide the "spark" of life according to the evolutionary theory, yet there is no life on Mars. The river beds and river banks show no signs of vegetation or trees. The ground has no fossils and no organisms. The place is absolutely sterile.

>>5269079

Good argument jackass.

ITT: Not actually understanding biology, evolutionary theory, or science in general.

Move along.

Evolutionists just throw up their hands at the question of the origin of matter because they know something cannot evolve from nothing. They stick their heads in the sand and ignore the problem. The fact that matter exists in outrageously large quantities simply proves evolution is wrong. The "Big Bang" theory doesn't solve the problem either. Matter and energy have to come from somewhere.

1. Write full paper
2. Submit
3. You are victorious
Seriously, you should consider it. You have some nice points there.

>>5269065
>The wing stub did not make the bird more adaptable in his environment
gliding and climbing. some modern birds still do this. you could try to learn about evolutionary physiology before posting this shit.
>>5269067
>The evolutionist will claim that the presence of many individual species proves evolution.
no one claims that.
>hey never do this with giraffes and elephants
actually, they do.
>>5269068
>In fact, scientists have been unable to create a single left-hand protein molecule as found in all animals.
blatantly false
>>5269072
>However, the environmental experience of the female cannot change the chromosomes within her eggs and cannot have any effect upon her offspring.
also blatantly false
in other news: DNA recombo occurs before gamete development
>>5269073
>The scientific fact that DNA replication includes a built-in error checking method and a DNA repair process proves the evolutionary theory is wrong. The fact is that any attempt by the DNA to change is stopped and reversed.
that doesn't mean that beneficial mistakes don't slip through. lrn2molecbio
>>5269078
>There is no scientific evidence that a species can change the number of chromosomes within the DNA.
once again, blatantly flalse. plants do this shit all the time.
>>5269081
>Evolutionists just throw up their hands at the question of the origin of matter
that's not even part of evolutionary theory, dumbass.
>>5269084
>The planet has had all of the conditions necessary to provide the "spark" of life according to the evolutionary theory, yet there is no life on Mars. The river beds and river banks show no signs of vegetation or trees.
therefore, it couldn't happen here? this is awful logic and you should be ashamed.

>>5269081
The theory of evolution has nothing to do with the origin of matter you fucking ignoramus.

1. Refine your points
2. Write full paper
3. Scientific community burns you at the stake
4. You are hailed as a genius between 70 and 1200 years in the future for the rest of organised science.

OP, natural selection only occurs when there's a selective pressure put on a reproducing body. In an environment without this pressure, "survival of the fittest" is no only strictly necessary, and the mechanisms behind evolution can be more random and allow for a greater degree of changes.

>>5269084
Just because it can doesnt mean it will.

Also why the fuck are evolutionists looking at the origin of matter. Thats not their fucking job.

>>5269157

Where on Earth could an animal at relatively any point in that time not have that pressure on them?

>>5269125


>Actually they do

Show me where they do this with any animal, in a way that isn't just placing similar fossils next to each other in a way that is most convenient for them, with no proof that they actually "evolved" from each other.

>Blatantly false

I can do this too, what you're saying is blatantly false.

>>5269177
>here on Earth could an animal at relatively any point in that time not have that pressure on them?
Humans. Right now.

>>5269177
>I can do this too, what you're saying is blatantly false.
at least I can back up my claims.

re: epigenetic effects on embryos:
http://www.fasebj.org/content/12/11/949.short
http://www.reproduction-online.org/content/135/5/713.short

re: protein synthesis:
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja00080a004
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/281/5375/389.short

re: chromosome numbers:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v422/n6930/abs/nature01521.html
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1369526605000051

there you go. Lots of evidence.

>Show me where they do this with any animal, in a way that isn't just placing similar fossils next to each other in a way that is most convenient for them, with no proof that they actually "evolved" from each other.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1040618204000801
http://www.springerlink.com/content/7ajmj6dr8241tt2v/
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1096-0031.1992.tb00074.x/abstract

>>5269215

>relatively any point in that time

EG., before birds existed.

OP, don't you think those birds could use those wing structures to i don't know...glide?

Evolution of Elephants pictured left

>The scientific fact that DNA replication includes a built-in error checking method and a DNA repair process proves the evolutionary theory is wrong. The fact is that any attempt by the DNA to change is stopped and reversed.

wot is cancer

ITT: What is mutation and heat, and whoever writes the most words and spams the most links wins.

>>5269073
>>5269073
You provided little source for your claims. refer to this flowchart and if you follow the rules, you may just get someone to argue with you.
The fact of the matter is that you are arguing that widely known biological process isn't happening. If you'd like to argue the THEORY of evolution (which theorizes WHY evolution happens) then I'd go ahead and continue with finding sources to support your claims. But the claim that the evolutionary process isn't happening is just not factual. You misunderstand the DNA replication process and therefore have a misunderstanding of the process that follows.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/search/topics.php?topic_id=14
http://www.talkorigins.org%2Ffaqs%2Fevolution-fact.html&h=8AQH4GL7u
http://www.folkingmetal.com/pickors/debate-flowchart.jpg

for fucks sake guys why do you respond to trolls

>>5269073
no
sickle cell anemia

>>5269075
ha no
see that big energy ball in the sky, the sun, it give of loads of energy that can increase order while overall entropy decreases, ie the sun burns fuel.

>>5269068
hahah no
tho most scientifically advance lab can not assemble a bubble, but a bubble it the lowest engry state for oil/water mix which is the basics of a cell wall

>>I think there are some major flaws in the current theory of evolution of the species, but they are not as major as the creation/intelligent design

>>5269081
no matter is always just appearing learn to understand what happens in a "vaccum"

>>5269100
I also you recommend you do this