/sci/ - Science & Math

>NASA
>only making space shit
I hate people

>>5214925
Not even gonna bother watching. I don't know whether it's more a case of stupidity or ignorance to just forget about these contributions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies

>>5214925
lets just flag this out of existance

But...it is.

How does space get me a job?

How does space feed the poor or care for the sick?

How is space anything but a first world luxury?

you kids just need to grow up and realize the real world has bigger problems and we don't have time to fulfill your nerd fantasies.

>>5214925

wow. No matter what their message is, i hate these people for characterizing their detractors as morons.

It completely invalidates anything they might have said.

>>5215426
You're not losing much. A couple of people mispronouncing words and using Beavis&Butthead-level quips (uhuhuh UR-ANUS uhuhuh) to make up for lack of a sense of humor.

Also the misleading/intentionally ignorant /pol/ shit about there not being any returns from money spent.

I'm usually pro-diplomacy and anti-violence but seeing people spread misinformation like this makes me want to take a steel-baseball bat and weld a kilogram of nails to it and go around beating the ignorance out of people like these.

>mfw this video

>>5215426

wow that is a really padded list. I don't see anything there that could not have been invented even if we didn't have a space industry.

>powdered lube
>remote control oven
>a facebook game

OMG WE WOULD ALL BE IN TEH STONE AGE WITHOUT THESE MARVELS MORE MONEY TO SPACE NAO!

>>5214925
American Colonization Program = Waste of Money
Crossing the Ice-bridge = Waste of Money
Moving to Europe = Waste of Money
Leaving Africa = Waste of Money
Evolving = Waste of Money
Existence of Elements Larger than Hydrogen = Waste of Money
Hydrogen = Waste of Money
Existence = Waste of Money

>>5215497

you = childish tantrum

>>5214925
Why did you posted this crap here ? Why did you voluntarely gave it more views ?

>>5215506
This sounds more like /pol/ but might be suitable in /sci/.

oh and not op

I don't really care, usa dropping the ball will stimulate the other players, which will in turn stimulate the usa (or not, who cares about your moron-filled nation).

>>5215503
You seem to have misquoted. What is a childish tantrum is the video.

>>5215497
is accurate sarcasm

This video = Waste of Bandwidth

>>5215497
*American Colonization Program by Spain, France and England

>>5215520

>Ratings disabled
Nope. Just tell me at what point they bring out a crokoduck and a 6000 year old universe.

>let's complain about the pennies spent on space exploration while ignoring the insane amounts spent on war

>>5215679

Without war, you would have never gotten Apollo.

Choose.

>>5215708
To be fair, over 50% on multi-Trillion dollar budget is a little extreme, as opposed to the hundred billion we spent on our space program, as they said.

>>5215722

It costs a lot to keep a whole planet secure.

And at least the military provides jobs and shitty healthcare. What does space do? I i sign up for the space corps and get enough money for college?

Goddamned art students thinking they know everything about the world because they listen to bill maher and read reddit.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man attempts to adapt the world to himself.

>>5215737
The ladder is what man has done for centuries. We have moved all over the Earth for no reason other than stimulation.

Tell me:
Why did we not simply partition resources in our early years? Why did we move from continent to continent? The very existence of science and society is to adapt man's world to him, while driving the head of exploration and discovery.

It is not the Job of the United States to use very little of their troops to police the world.

If I remember from my US History Class, Columbus didn't bring back anything of note from his First Voyage, yet America is supposedly considered the pinnacle of the Free World.

You're telling me keeping a bunch of Guns in storage is important, while I'm asking you, why should that trump Space exploration? Cutting the military budget by less than 10% would be enough for a functioning Space program.

>>5215737
But perhaps you recommend an alternative: that Space should be run by the private sector, yes?

>>5215757
>The ladder is what man has done for centuries. We have moved all over the Earth for no reason other than stimulation.

No, we did it for food and other resources.

>Why did we not simply partition resources in our early years?

No reason to when bashing the other tribe in the head works just as well.

>Why did we move from continent to continent?

Food and resources or to discriminate against other religions (the pilgrims)

>The very existence of science and society is to adapt man's world to him, while driving the head of exploration and discovery.

Yep. Which is why we should keep drilling for oil in the antarctic. i couldn't have put it better myself.

>It is not the Job of the United States to use very little of their troops to police the world.

No, but it does free up the economies of the other countries to do science, which i thought you were for?

>If I remember from my US History Class, Columbus didn't bring back anything of note from his First Voyage, yet America is supposedly considered the pinnacle of the Free World.

Since when do they talk about columbus in US history? The US didn't exist during columbus's life.

>You're telling me keeping a bunch of Guns in storage is important, while I'm asking you, why should that trump Space exploration? Cutting the military budget by less than 10% would be enough for a functioning Space program.

Because it's more ludicrous to spend that much money on pandering to childish wish fulfillment because you wish you were born in star trek's universe?

Let's fix the problems on earth first.

>>5215737

>i sign up for the space corps and get enough money for college?

That's... actually a fantastic idea.

>>5215760

You ever stop to wonder why almost nobody but eccentric billionaires have invested in space?

Protip: it's not because of global conspiracies, it's because the returns for multi-trillion dollar investments are so far out into the future that there is practically no chance of ever seeing a profit in a person's lifetime, and people don't invest that much money in things unless they can reap the returns?

>>5215778

Indeed it is. Too bad it's completely economically unfeasible and none of the skills would transfer back to earth, and when you did get home, you would be stuck in a wheelchair for the rest of your life due to massive bone loss from the microgravity.

>>5215737
Also,
>implying I have an semblence of artistic talent
>implying I got to Reddit
>implying your rage over your philosophical dream of a world policed by America isn't showing your autism

>>5215783

>autism

thread over, the a-word has been dropped!

>>5215783

Oh so you do listen to bill maher, then?

Still qualifies you as a dumbass, i'm afraid. Maher is only atheist for the money.

allmyrage.png

I left them a nasty comment about overpopulation and how they should think about the future of the human race instead of bitching about how they can't buy their car with the money they get from making Youtube videos. However, it first has to be approved. Fucking bitch jew nazis probably censor it so that they don't offend their Mormon Republican friends. Fucking jews.

>>5215794

can't tell if troll or if people who support space are really stupid enough not to notice horrible and obvious sarcasm.

>tfw seriously considering going into materials engineering/science

Space is a waste? Enjoy your creaky transportation.

>>5215800
Read the comments.

>>5215805

Ah, troll it is.

0/10

>>5215803

Enjoy your shitty job that will never in any way be connected to space!

unless you're really one of those dumb kids who goes to college thinking "IMMA SPACE ONE DAY!"

>>5215809
Yeah, joking.com is a parody video site ...

>>5215774
>we moved around for resources
>no meed to partition resources, we can just beat the shot out of other tribes instead
Am I to assume we chased other humans out of Africa, or there might be, (gasp), more than one possibility OH MY GOD NO
>Columbus
>Not US History
Did they really not teach people about Columbus out of APUSH?
>Free up other economies to do science
What was that part where you called me a dumbass?
>searching for oil in the Arctic
How does that take away government funding for space?

7/10 made me respond, had me there for a second

>>5215817
*more than one reason

>>5215774

But space exploration does help fix problems on earth. It creates jobs, stimulates education (especially STEM fields), produces research and innovation that directly benefits the private sector, and, most importantly, it gives people something to dream about. Space is a uniting, humbling cause that brings humans together more than any war or expanded military budget ever could.

If governments really decided to dramatically reduce military spending and focus on important problems such as climate change and world poverty, we would have enough money to both solve our current issues and begin seriously exploring and expanding into space (It isn't as expensive as you may think!).

Not to mention things like Hydrogen 3, the abundant minerals in our asteroid belt, and plentiful other resources on the moon, mars, and moons like titan.

>>5215807
>shitty job
60-110k starting, high demand, white collar
>never in any way be connected to space
Straight from google:
>Another application of material science in industry is the making of composite materials. Composite materials are structured materials composed of two or more macroscopic phases. Applications range from structural elements such as steel-reinforced concrete, to the thermally insulative tiles which play a key and integral role in NASA's Space Shuttle thermal protection system which is used to protect the surface of the shuttle from the heat of re-entry into the Earth's atmosphere.

>>5215829

so every company that makes composites makes space shuttles.

wow, you learn something new everyday in stupidkidtown.

>>5215822

Yep. Pity that humanity isn't like that and that none of that can ever happen. Keep on dreamin'

>>5215817

did you forget the context of your own questions?

>>5215822
>It creates jobs, stimulates education (especially STEM fields), produces research and innovation that directly benefits the private sector, and, most importantly, it gives people something to dream about. Space is a uniting, humbling cause that brings humans together more than any war or expanded military budget ever could.

>meanwhile, in the real world

WOAH DUDE DID YOU HEAR SOME GUY FELL FROM SPACE? HE MUST HAVE HUGE BALLS MAN, I COULD NEVER DO THAT

YEAH MAN

OH THAT WAS NAR NAR BRAH

SPONSORED BY RED BULL BRAH

>>5215520
well aren't you just 512edgy1024us

>>5215848
7/10, take it or leave it.

>>5215863

you're trolling and simultaneously wondering why humanity hasn't gone back to space in 60 years?

You're the reason.

>>5215477
They characterize both sides as idiots. I think they're just trying to be funny. They're not, though, just grating.

I'm actually doing a short persuasive speech on this tomorrow but haven't started writing it yet. Topic:

Why space research and exploration are NOT a waste of resources.

Any suggestions on what specifics I should include?

>>5215872

Lies.

You'll have to make it all lies.

And you're going to bore the shit out of the entire class.

Just a heads up.

Oh and be sure to say something like "we are the 99% and this time we want space!" that'll perk up the social science rejects.

>>5215846
You said "in any way". Joke's on you, pal.

>>5215872

Read this: http://www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/read/2006/11/01/delusions-of-space-enthusiasts

>>5215903

Well i contribute more to the space program by paying taxes than you will in your job.

>>5215909
Does this mean I don't have to pay income taxes? Sweet!

>>5215919

>vote no on school funding!

>this is bullshit why don't we have space travel yet!?

humans...

>>5215905
This was both awesome and humbling. And only made my man-boner for the NDT grow larger.

>>5215708
>implying going to war is the only way humans would of been able to create space technology

>>5216069

We haven't been out of LEO in sixty years.

That's not implying, that's fact. An assassinated president's mandate put us on the moon. If any other forces exist to put us back, where have they been these last 6 decades?

>that cleavage

really now?

>>5215909
>implying his job wont pay income taxes as well as contributing directly

>Joking.com
>Obvious parody
>50+ replies
Dammit /sci/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2x90YT-1r4

>>5215492
>I don't see anything there that could not have been invented even if we didn't have a space industry.
That's irrelevant.
The fact is that NASA has funded tons of research and practical applications, so it hasn't been a 'waste of money'.

you can say they joke all you want but everything they said is true.

going to space is a nerd dream and a waste of money with no benefits.

>>5216290
A man may tell the full truth in jest - Geoffry Chaucer

>>5215737
People who go out into space are, for the most part, trained professionals.
So you can sock it if your not smart enough for space exploration.

>>5215774
You won't fix those problems by wasting trillions of dollars.
(Lets not forget the missing budget whose records were blown sky high on 9/11)
For the money that is spent on bombing random civilians on the other side of the earth you could start teraforming Mars for a better tomorrow. And than send all the smart, cool people there. }:P

>>5215774
UGUGUGUH NO CAVEMAN, YOU CAN'T SPEND ALL DAY TRYNIG TO MAKE FIRE
WE HAVE MOUTHS TO FEED, YOU CAN DO RESEARCH WHEN FOOD IS NOT SCARCITY ANYMORE

Fuck you and all your family, your teachers and your state.

>>5216090

Fusion power has been under development, and with ever-reducing space exploration costs it's not useful to colonize the moon until after fusion reactors work.

Minerals exist in enough plenty that asteroid mining was also too expensive to be profitable.

The lust for exploration is naturally strongest with the politically and economically impotent.