/sci/ - Science & Math

I'm an Honors CS major and yes, it does get harder. You'll very quickly realize that 95% of the kids in all your classes are fucking stupid and want want want, they refuse to shut the fuck up and learn the material themselves. Wastes the entire class time going over basic concepts.

Freshman calculus is for people who couldn't pass the AP test. These people are usually not motivated at all, and aren't interested in mathematics.
It doesn't get harder. Calc 2 is easy as fuck, Calc 3 is a joke.
Take a real analysis course to see how hard it can get.

>>5091142
For example, in my programming class, year 2, people were asking what printf does. Seriously? We learned this in the first day of class AND last year. I'm in class now and I am getting pissed off at stupid people and their stupid questions.

What OP describes is exactly the reason why /sci/ doesn't take CS serious. Way too many retards who can't even into highschool math are studying it.

>>5091146
First and second years maybe but look at the later. CS majors are all about logic and problem solving, fuck you engineers.

>>5091147
>tfw you realize that a degree in CS is a degree is logic

>>5091148
We learn that from day 1, why the fuck are you implying otherwise?

>>5091149
I meant as you go from HS to Uni.

>>5091147
>logic and problem solving

You mean that what mathfags learn in their first week?

I'm a Junior and a CS major and I took Precalculus 2 freshman year because that was the highest you could place into, and I did AP Bio and LELELELEL AP ENGLISH instead of AP Calc.

Anyway, I remember Precalculus 2 being the hardest math course I have ever taken. Calculus I, II and III were all so easy in comparison, not to mention the other MTH classes I've had to take. And I had taken Precalc/Calculus in HS so I have no idea why it was so difficult.

tl;dr Calculus is easymode but Precalculus cabooseclobbered me.

it wont get any harder cuz u're a genius OP
damn I envy you

>>5091151
>My CS prof

"I love maths because maths is clean, its beautiful, it's perfectly logical and awe inspiring."

"I love CS because maths is clean, its beautiful, it's perfectly logical, awe inspiring and it actually does something."

>>5091155
Dude, I'm retarded. Don't kid yourself. I have a good spacial reasoning ability, but that's about it.

>>5091153
Wow, I'm retarded. I need to stop staying up to 1 playing Torchlight.

>>5091151
I'm a mathematician and can safely say, that even if you get a degree in pure mathematics, chances are high, that you don't learn as much logic as a theoretical computer scientist

>>5091157
>not recognizing irony
autism

>>5091159
I studied both and I can safely say that CS logic is ridiculous. You can learn their logic curriculum within a day.

>>5091163
>First and second year CS
>Lol complexity is a joke guize

That's like saying pre-calc is the same as multi-variable integral calculus.

>>5091163
Oh shit, but I know people who actually talk like that over the internet though; I thought there was a significant chance it was legitimate.

>>5091165
>That's like saying pre-calc is the same as multi-variable integral calculus.

Not much of a difference. Both are a joke. I guess you're a freshman.

>>5091168
So what's a relatively hard course in maths?

>>5091169
>math course
>hard

You already failed. Courses in university are not supposed to be hard, they are supposed to give you a bare minimum of knowledge. If you think there are "hard" courses, you will never do serious research.

>>5091163
Especially in computer science, the amount of logic, discrete math and and model theory you are required to master wildly varies. At some unis, it's first year babby tier math, at some unis it exceeds that of a regular mathematician.

>>5091171
If all courses are easy, the uni did not stomp as much knowledge in your brain as possible, limiting your potential for research. That being said, all my courses were easy.

>>5091138
Welcome to life OP, it's actually pretty easy, most people are just dumb as fuck.
And nope, it most certainly does not get harder.

>>5091171
Really? In my university courses were designed to be gut wrenchingly difficult, some specifically intended to scare people away from their majors.
It's not until grad studies that I had any time to.work on research, but even then I took 3 courses and spent 50 to 60 hrs on them a week, then the rest on research.

I went to school in Canada tho. Is what you describe how schools are in the states or europe?

>be thesis student, have been working in lab for a month or so
>first day of actual classes is today
>hear freshmen complaining
>"man, I had two and a half hours worth of classes today! that's insane!"
>have to suppress my rage and the urge to tell them that's nothing
>was in the lab for over twelve hours with little breaks just last friday

It's crazy what new students complain about, but that's just because they've never worked to any reasonable extent in their life.

You guys get irritated when freshman complain? Try having to do gen-eds at a college where the majors that get most of the funding are psychology, "recreation management", and physical education. Less than a few hundred people here actually do any time-consuming course work

>>5091203
2.5 hours is insane.....for lawyers. I had 40 hours of classes first semester of uni.

>>5091214
Actually lawyers have to take a fucktonne of classes thanks to common law in many places.
Honestly I think the freshmen were more surprised about how much time they aren't in class as opposed to are.
I remember going from my 10 hr 6 day/wk job to uni and being blown away. Going right from school would be different, but that's still what like 6 or 8 hrs per day?

>>5091138
"Don't just write the answer down, show your WORK!"

>tfw americans call analysis "calculus"

>>5091240
I thought calculus is analysis without proofs.

>>5091243
I thought this too. Isn't calculus in preparation for analysis?

Calculus is hard

I know this feel so hard, OP. The worst part is that my professor panders to the dumbest kids in the class who are VERY outspoken when they don't understand something (which seems to be everything so far).

>mfw the exam was supposed to be this thursday and today they complained and had it changed to next tuesday

Fuck, could have had an easy ass exam out of the way. Not like it matters. It'll still be easy next week. But I can't believe people are struggling. We're doing babby derivatives.

I'm in my senior year of mathematics and will be going for my masters next year. I made a C in Cal 1 because I'm not a genius. I don't study math because it's easy, I do it because I love it. That's all that matters.

>>5091141
Calc 3 is the hardest math class I have ever taken. Past that I've only taken Differential Equations, which is a lot easier.

Where does OP go

>>5091240
>>5091240
>>5091240
You're just too dumb to realize "real analysis" is way harder than calculus.

>>5092721
Calc 3? Hardest? Shit, dude, you suck.

>>5091138

>I breeze through it in a couple of hours
>in a couple of hours
>hours

I have bad news for you, OP.

>>5091138
well you see OP that can easily be explained with the OP equation. OP = F^A(G). And there you have it. Divide by quit being such an asshole and you'll understand.