/sci/ - Science & Math

There is no theory.

>>5084267
oh what is there then?

>>5084270
a hypothetical.

>>5084273
oh im not the most well educated on all of this. what is the difference between a theory and a hypothetical?

>>5084259
The higggs boson has fuck all to do with a multiverse theory.

Also, there is no multiverse theory! Just a bunch of hypothesis.

>>5084276
does the higgs support sting theory? that doesnt support the multiverse hypothesis?

>>5084277
Higgs is what gives matter mass. Has fuckall to do with multiple universes, just supports standard model

>>5084277
The Higgs does not support string theory or any multipverse shit. Also, "String theory" is a mathematical theory, NOT A SCIENTIFIC THEORY!

String theory is just like the mutliverse bullshit, a bunch of hypothesis, nothing more, no scientific theory.

The Higgs boson is just evidence for the validity of the standard model of particle physics. It was the last missing piece. The standard model is a vast collection of very very very veru very very very accurate scientific theories that explain everything we know about the universe on a fundamental level.

>>5084289
String theory is a mathematical description of how nature possibly works, just like any other physical theory. The fact that all it's predictions are ar beyond our scope of testing does not mean it's not a scientific theory, it just means it's unverified.

>>5084310
that's a lot of words meant to explain how it's a hypothesis

>>5084310
You are just plain fucking wrong. For something to be considered a "scientifc theory" it needs confirmations from experiment.

Gravity is a scientifc theory.
Electrodyanmics is a scientific theory.
The standard model is a colletion of scientifc theories.

String theory is not a scientifc theory.

Learn to scientifc method.

>>5084310

>>5084310
>unverified

I think the word your looking for is "hypothesis". String theory is a collection of scientifc hypothesis.

You are a fucking fag

>>5084323
>2012 post-modern world
>still talking about scientific method

>>5084352
How much cum does your mom swallow per day?

>>5084352
>be on /sci/
>disregard scientifc method

Would you rather we just believe in magic?

>>5084357
Since the scientific method apparently doesn't exist, we can never objectively know.

>>5084354
>Implying /sci/ doesn't believe in psychic abilities inspite of the overwhelming evidence consistently obtained for over a century from all over the world simply because it goes against their beliefs

>>5084375
>>5084367
So any number is correct than?
WOW YOUR MOM MUST SWALLOW ALOT OF CUM!

>>5084375
>implying you don't suck off homeless men drug money

>>5084382
L-O-L

what da fuck did u say bout my mom u cretinous peace of shit? say that to my face not on the internet and see wat happends. i bet ur nothin but a skinny little vergin nerd

>>5084395
Clam down little boy. I simply am talking about the fact that your mom swallows a large amount of cum on a regular basis. If you have a problem with the amount of cum your mom swallows, take it up with her.

>>5084395
>implying you have a face

>>5084408
haha do you ever get laid? lol no bcuz ur pathetic nerd loser xD enjoy dying vergin and mirin the alphas u sad waste of life

>>5084410
>implyuing u have a dick

when u were born da doctor said its a girl but has no vagina and then he took microscope to find ur penis and ur mom cried

>>5084412
>implying you aren't a monkey with down syndrome

>>5084412
>implying anyone can read your horrible typing

What is your native language?

>>5084412
>implying I don't let your sister swallow my load every tuesday at lunch

>>5084416
>implying you don't ask for my dick every night

engineering -> /cm/

>>5084416
What are you making me for dinner tonight?

>>5084427
>impling ur not a monkey

what are u? a christfag dnying evlutioN?

>>5084429
my langugae is merrican best country of the world u jelly motherfukcer from thrid world communist shit cuntry?

>>5084442
>doesn't know the difference between a monkey and an ape

>>5084310
>he has seen gravity
>he thinks gravity is verified

>>5084432
>implying any woman would ever touch u
u wish pathetic vergin nerd

>>5084444
>mericca

You are funny. Keep making me laugh and maybe I'll let you swallow my load tonight.

>>5084448
>implying you mom is a man

WHAT?

>>5084444
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>>5084444
>>5084444
motherfucking quads confirm it

USA USA USA

>>5084451
Are you naturally a fucking retard? or did you have to go through some sort of training?

>>5084440
ur gonna get shit for dinner liek always. go suck u're moms tampon

>>5084450
u have no brains where ur brains is in ur head theirs just shit

>>5084455
r u always a ragin nerd loser? yes u are LOL stay mad beta

>>5084454
>implying you aren't just on your rag throwing a hiss fit

I forgive you, I know it is a rough time for you.
No need to worry.

>>5084465
u have to worry bcuz ur autism as fuck

>>5084461
>confimed to be a monkey randomly pressing keys

Remarkabe! What zoo do you live at? How are you today? You like bananna?

>>5084467
did I hit ur week spot? ur faullt loser ur not beta ur omega

>>5084466
What part of asia are you from?
Your english needs improvement bro!
Keep it up!

>>5084472
what part of loser land are u from? Ur anus needs some pounding

>>5084471
How does it feel knowing that your country owns america? Does it feel nice to be the only superpower in the world? What will you do with all the shitty american? Slave labor?

>>5084474
What part of china are you from?

>>5084466
Your should get off the computer before your parents catch you. You don't want to get the belt agian, do you?

>>5084481
u shuld get off ur mom /b/fore ur dad cums home for ur daily anus raep

>>5084451
>2012
>proud to be from america

Your country is one Romney away from a complete collapse. It is gonna be fucking epic to watch you fall!

ROMNEY 2012! WATCH AMERICA BURN!

>>5084490
>if only we could read your typing

Have you not learned how to make sentences yet?

>>5084490
What do you want be be when you grow up?

>>5084490
so much fail....so so funny

>>5084444

failing with quads: new level of fail.

>>5084490
COME BACK! WE NEED MORE OF YOUR JOKES!

>in after shit storm

>>5084259
>multiverse
The mutliverse thing is just mental masturbation, by definition everything outside our universe does not exist.
It's even worse than religious mental masturbation because it's propagated as science.

>>5084493
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>>5084500
>>5084502
>>5084511
>dat fucking autism

Why do you reply to a post more than once? Did it really hurt you so much?

>>5084522
>implying you are not a homosexual (engineer)

It is okay little guy. We accept you here!

>>5084526
Yep, that's a butthurt. An autistict butthurt XD

>>5084529
MORE JOKES! MORE JOKES!

>>5084522
>implying you don't have an intestinal parisite

SEE THE DOCTOR

>>5084530
You can't stop replying, crybaby.

>>5084531
Look in the mirror. The biggest joke are you. Any normal person would of stopped the conversation after the first few insults. You keep replying. What's wrong in your head?

>>5084537
He is too busy making my dinner

>>5084522
Give us some jokes you funny fag

>>5084537
>>5084539
>samefag in tears

>>5084538
>implying Obama isn't black

>>5084539
what he making you?

>>5084542
>lulz so randumb

Gotcha! Tell us about your emotional pain.

>>5084545
Hello "physics guy". You forgot your name.

>>5084538
>implying you know what a vagina looks like

>>5084549
Ah, we're down to projections now.

>>5084548
>pic of girl
>"physics guy"

????

>>5084560
>implying you are a man

You know, at first I thought the posters ITT were just being ironic, but the capability to consistently post like 12 y/o's for this long, without getting bored, suggests a mental deficiency in and of itself.

Let the thread die you faggots.

>>5084556
What made you so butthurt? Except for knowing a little bit of physics, how hard are you failing at life?

>>5084548
>implying that is a man

>>5084563

>>5084559
>butthurt

Is this an engineering thread?

>>5084564
>haha le funny meemee ecksDee

Why are you staying behind in mental maturity? What neurological condition do you have?

>>5084561
>implying I am a man

>>5084565
You're not trolling and you're not successful. You're simply pathetic. I could almost feel pity for you.

>>5084565
No, that isn't what I'm saying, you're a fucking retard for thinking that so much effort on your part can still be considered "trolling".

>>5084569
>implying I ain't a 11 year old girl with Huntington's disease

>>5084574
>implying we have any idea what is going on here

>>5084580
We know you're not. But please continue your desparate attempt to hide behind forced "randumb" comments. I guess that's the only reaction your disorder allows.

>>5084584
>implying I ain't a very sad neckbeard with a very serious disease

>implying I don't suck ass

>>5084584
>random image board
>hiding

Are you new to 4chan? Welcome!

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FUNNY FAGGOT WITH THE JOKES?

>>5084586
I think everyone knows that by now. You demonstrated it clearly enough. Would you please mind seeking professional help?

>>5084595
>implying that isn't a great fucking idea

THANKS!

>>5084591
>so predictable

*sigh*

>>5084598
>2012
>*sigh instead of le sigh

Not proud of your french heritage

>>5084596
He is too busy licking up cum from his moms pussy. That shit needs to be cleaned at least three times a day.

I would suggest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_C.K..

>>5084259
Bullshit multiverse shit -> this thread

\thread

And this, Chillin, is what a /b/ raid looks like??

>>5084612
>implying this thread isn't what Romney looks like

>>5084619
Romney = A clusterfuck of nonsense

>>5084612
>/b/ raid

I wish. All the participants ITT are /sci/ regulars. That's why /sci/ is shit.

>>5084323
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>>5084447
Samefag harder. String theory is a scientific theory. It is based on evidence and explains observations.

>>5084814
So is astrology

>this fucking thread

>>5084275
A theory is a cohesive set of models that explains a phenomenon or multiple phenomena. It's backed up by mountains of evidence and is demonstrably true, at least to a large degree.

A hypothesis is what people in common parlance call a theory. It's a guess based on what information is available and is only entertained if it actually solves a problem and has a plausible mechanism proposed. If it's not confirmed, then it stays a hypothesis. If it's proved wrong, it gets ignored. If it's unfalsifiable, everybody around the proponent sighs and finds something useful to do.

>>5084882
>If it's proved wrong, it gets ignored
(Does not apply to creationists)

>>5084814
No, you shit, string theory is barely a cohesive idea, let alone a hypothesis. The only reason it's called a theory is because the general public got hold of it and approximately -10% of the general public knows the difference between a theory, hypothesis, and wild ass guess.

The expanding earth model is based on evidence and explains observations, too. It's also COMPLETELY FUCKING WRONG.

>>5084894

BUT JEEBUS SAID IN MARK 24589:442 THAT HE RODE DINOSAURS

QED Dinosaurs and humans coexisted and the Romans used velociraptor cavalry.

God I love creatard logic. It's unfortunate that it's more than comedy to like a 40% or more people in the US

>>5084882
Thanks for posting one of the few post ITT that isn't a shitpost, also everyone should note that there is a difference between a scientific theory and a scientific law.

>come here expecting some explanations and debate for and against multiverse theory or hypothesis or whatever

instead i get 12 years olds arguing semantics and then calling each other childish names for hours

4chan is so boring, i know its always been shit but i swear over the last year either 4chan has gotten even more immature (probably because it gets flooded with thousands of underage 9fags everytime b runs a stupid raid)

>It's also COMPLETELY FUCKING WRONG.
As if you know. I'm sure you think that you are somehow intellectually superior to everyone, and it's scum like you that makes this board intolerable.

Because it's not even a hypothesis, it's a damn interpretation of empirical data.

It's philosophy or fiction

>choose one

>>5084563
id have to agree, I thought this thread died last night. I come back this afternoon and its a shitstorm.

>>5084952
see this is what I was hoping for....I guess I should have tended my thread a lil better.

>>5084882
Except that's wrong. Nothing in science is "demonstrably true". Only in math you can "prove" things. Theories in science are plausible hypotheses backed up by evidence. Get your semantics right.

What's with all the deleted posts?

Was someone in here spewing some breathtakingly dishonest anti-scientific subhuman activist garbage about string theory?

>>5085161
Nah, just an immature kid spamming insults.

>>5085039
Just delete the thread, if you've dug through the shit, I'm sure you got your answer by now.

>>5085161
>What's with all the deleted posts?
All your posts on the site get deleted when you're b&'ed.

Multiverse? Thats bullshit.

MWI is more likely

>>5085316

They're not mutually exclusive, dumbass.

if you idiots actually bothered to keep up with events you would know about the work of laura mersini-houghton that is coming pretty close to making string theory look incredibly respectable, not least because she actually made predictions about certain physical aspects of the universe that have since been observationally verified.

yes, that's right, string theory has lead to predictions that have been observationally verified. this doesn't mean it right, but it's a whole fuckton more credible then any of the asshats in this thread so far would have you believe.

oh, and this shit all happened between 3-6 years ago, so good job keeping up with progress.

>>5085150

Demonstrably true does not mean "proven", it means plausible explanation vindicated by demonstration. Hypotheses are only called theories when they're backed up by a large set of observations, or "demonstrations", thus "demonstrably true". Learn English bro.

>>5084958
Are you seriously telling me that you think the earth is expanding? Really? Show me the data, and a plausible mechanism by which the current data we have against it is also explained by that model. Because what I said is not that string "theory" is wrong, I said that the expanding earth hypothesis is bullshit.

>>5085702
That's what I said. A hypotyhesis becomes an acceptable theory, when it has lots of evidence. Your reading comprehension is pretty bad.

>>5085721
>Except that's wrong. Nothing in science is "demonstrably true". Only in math you can "prove" things.

You object to the phrase "demonstrably true" then when I tell you you're wrong you say that I said what you said? Are you retarded?

>>5085816
Obviously you don't know what "demonstrably true" means. It means you can prove it to be true. Please educate yourself.

>>5085841

To demonstrate and to prove are not the same thing.

>>5084259

many of us embrace the multiverse theory. some of us reject it on religious grounds, as God stated in the Bible.

Beyond the examination of the way modern theory fits, multiverse theory is pointless.
It can never be verified.
It can not be exploited.

op might as well be saying

"with the discovery of protons why is the multiverse theory shunned around here?"

A correlative bump in some data is not definitive proof of the higgs.

Your argument is now invalid.

>>5087481
>as God stated in the Bible.

Just stop, idiot.

>>5087481
WTF? [citation needed]