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code monkey

top paid behind chemical engineers in 2011

GOAT major

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How difficult is a computer science major in comparison to your science major?

What do they do?

>software engineer

>>4915435
>Mathematics
Difficult and time consuming
>Physics
Difficult
>Engineering
Time consuming
>CS
disappointingly easy

CS = good salary, so fuck you all!

I'm ABD math and I sort of wish I did comp sci. All the old anonymous/lulzsec stuff really caught my imagination. I think it would be awesome to know how to fuck stuff up instead of just making people feel stupid. Go for it, OP.

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You have math and physics backwards.

how hard is a pure science major?

A skill that doesn't require a college degree. It's more a trade than science. But there are a lot more degrees worse than CS.

It's a degree that'll earn me 80k+ annually, so I'm going for it.

I've been learning programming languages on my own before school starts and I'm having a lot of fun!

CS being easy is a myth.
Either it's a running gag (like gay engineer) or sthe superiority complex here is stronger than I thought.

CS is a lot of theory with a glimpse of practical.
Half of my CS courseload is math (number theory, graph theory, logic)
The other half consists of programming, OS, architecture etc...

While I admit CS is slighlty easier than my pure math related subjects, it is indeed quite challenging.

My last prog/alg exam of the semester was a problem. Almost no theory recquired, it was pure common sense and logic. It allows creativity in your answer while offering a severe complexity into wich our brains drowned. Fun stuff.

Code monkey is the basic job but there are more interesting jobs.
Lead architect, network admin, Consultant on other scientific projects or in private businesses, security, IT, AI, robotics. And so much more.

Math&CompSci double major here.

Maths & CompSci double major btw.

>>4915562
Thanks for your insight!

CS can actually vary quite a bit. Some institutions have really bad CS programs which are little better than community colleges. However, what a student focuses on matters a little bit too. Students who just take the easy classes like computer human interaction and stuff like that and have terrible GPAs, are most likely just going to end up in a shitty IT job, or will become code monkeys. However, if you're serious about it, and have a more math heavy focus, a lot more options open up to you, and you'll likely end up taking harder classes as well. Things like AI research and theoretical computer science, when you really get into them, can be fairly difficult.

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you can say this about alot of 4 year majors.

>>4915522
No I don't.

A good math class or textbook like Rudin only supplies 2/3 of the argument leaving the rest to be filled in by the student. It requires a lot of time and effort to filling in the critical gaps and comprehend the subject at the same time.

Once you get pass Physics' conceptual abstractness, all that's left is making sure you're integrating with respect to the right variable, didn't forget the 1000th negative, and plugged in the equation correctly into maple.

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It really depends on your college. If you go to a mediocre college, CS will only require 1-2 math courses and the rest will be programming. And programming is not hard, just time consuming.

depends where you go and what you do
if you skid by with the minimum requirements, it will be easy, but as much can be said for most all majors.
if you go somewhere with a credited CS program (MIT, CMU, stanford, cal, cornell, i'm not gonna list them all but you get the point), it's going to be difficult, imaginably.
if you challenge yourself, it will be as difficult as you make it.

i'm a CS guy. i don't think a bachelors CS takes as much sheer brainpower as, say, physics. (it takes a special sort of bastard to go the PhD route in CS, though.)

what i dislike about CS majors is that a lot of them aren't passionate about software and CS in general, but rather are just logic-oriented and know they'll have a decent salary after graduation. have to be wary of those people.

A lot of the bitching about comp sci major nowadays is because there are 2 speed bumps in this major that weed alot of shitties out.

1st speed bump is the first year or so of college to weed out slackers and autists that can't handle college curriculum. The second speedbump is after you graduate and have to get a job. But comp sci requires people skills and the ability to write a portfolio, not a resume.

Of those that actually graduate, there are too many videogaem wannabe's, aspiring artists, and pocket spaghetti aspies to fulfill most of the responsibilities required.

What do you guys think about CS bachelors at a decent school (Decent compared to MIT and such) and then going to graduate school somewhere better like Carnegie Mellon.

I'm extremely interested in AI and neural networking.

>CS
>Not electrical engineering

BAHAHAHA

>>4915552
you're confusing programming with computer science
the two are related, but distinct.

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The fact that you're even comparing CS to EE shows how ignorant you are about both fields.

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first off, what do you mean by decent? just list off some example schools. second, this hypothetical relies on you going to somewhere like CMU SCS for graduate... which is very difficult to do. i'm sure you know that, but it's worth mentioning. third, you may think you're interested in AI and even grad school in general now, but that certainly does not mean those will be your interests/goals x number of years down the road.

Mathematics + Computer Science = Master Race

Future code breaker for the NSA reporting in BROS

>>4916051
lol at thinking you'll become a cryptanalyst with a bachelors in math/CS

The code monkeys are software engineers, guys

>>4916056

>try masters mathematics
>bs math/cs
>plus internships with the NSA

Very highly as long as they are not code monkeys. Especially people in quantum computing, complexity theory and algorithms.

is computer science or computer engineering better?

>>4916486
Being a computer engineering student, I would say computer science is better if it is maths heavy.

>>4916518
>math heavy

You have no idea what you're talking about.