/sci/ - Science & Math

/autism/

/phi/ - philosophy

>>4849021
This

All the "Religion vs science thread" would go there

/college/
/finance/

/homo/

get rid of the engineers

>>4849021

>/lit/

/psy/ - Psychology
/econ/ - Economics
/rel/ - Religion
/phi/ - Philosophy
/bio/ - Biology & Medical

Optional: split /sci/ into /sci/ and /math/.

I don't want a /phi/ board because that board would be so full of shit and think so high of itself it would eclipse /lit/ and /sci/ entirely.

/fur/ would reduce "transhumanism" threads/posts by 90%

>>4849060
But adding more boards has shown to draw those kind of people away from other boards. Sure it'd be shit, but it'd be contained shit.

>>4849055

biology is science you fucking retard

/phi/ - philosophy and religion
/soc/- social sciences (economics, psychology, etc)
Biology and Medical can stay here

I vote or a /phi/ board. (philosophy)

>>4849063
I understand that, but I want to talk about philosophy without having to be inside a bucket of shit.

>>4849073
>>4849070
I know it's a science, but /sci/ has some memetic adversion to it, so I added it to avoid conflict. Also I think it'd be good to have a board about medical things other than /fit/.

It's always open to more ideas.

>>4849077
But philosophy isn't science

>>4849082
Biology and medicine are a natural combination. People can discuss evolution, ecology, and... catheters.

Actually no, that's stupid.

>>4849085
Which is why we want it out.
>>4849073
Would economics and Psych really fit together on a board?

>>4849090
What's stupid? Sectioning it off in its own board?

>>4849055
Yeah, Splitting /sci/ into /sci/ and /math/ would make it better.

So it seems that the most desired board is /phi/. Interesting.

>>4849073
If we really beg we could get /phi/ eventually but your /soc/ idea will take some work. But most people will go with it just to take down the ACTUAL /soc/.

>>4849085
It's not like philosophy questions only get asked here. They are asked all over 4chan, specially in /lit/ and /adv/.

>>4849118
Yeah, you're right. The goal of boards is to have boards that help multiple boards. For instance:

>/psy/ - Psychology
/sci/ and /x/
>/econ/ - Economics
/sci/ and /pol/
>/rel/ - Religion
/sci/, /x/, and /pol/
>/phi/ - Philosophy
/sci/, /lit/, and /adv/
>/bio/ - Biology & Medical
/sci/ and /fit/

/sci/ is damn slow as it is, more boards would suck

>>4849123
/sci/ being slow is good for new boards, because then moot has to worry less about server strain from /sci/ branched boards.

All the boards should be separated through dogmas

/sci/ - hard science & anti-thought

>>4849121
Except that the other boards are not annoyed by these topics. Only /sci/ is full of complaining aspies going buttmad. /lit/ enjoys philosophy as much as /x/ enjoys psychology and /fit/ has no problem with medical questions.

/hol/ Psychology/ biology (IE soft sciences)
/math/ Mathematics (also statistics and economy)
/Ph/ Physics and chemistry

There will sometimes be an overlap, but the greatest benefit of this split will be to have slower more specialized boards where a more long-term qualitative discussion can take place and that will not attract so many attention seekers.

>>4849121
It would be a good idea if /x/'s answer for every psychology question was "you probably have demons in your head" and /pol/ wasn't talking about how much they hate every race.
>>4849123
You do have a point but we should as /phi/ because
of >>4849118 and it would help all of 4chan with cancer.

What does the /hol/ mean?

>>4849085
...which is why the Victorian scientists (Banks, Herschel, Davy, etc.), who coined the term, "science" and basically made it into the field we know today, referred to themselves as philosophers and their work as a form of philosophy.

Philosophy = love of wisdowm. Deal with it ignoramus.

>>4849060
what >>4849063 said.

It would be a "shit filter" board, designed to be bad but it would attract all the shitty trolls from here.

>>4849029
>/college/

I actually approve of adding this.

Oh you, putting every little thingy in its right little box.

It's just a matter of being flexible, bros. You get too mad when someone says something wrong, exactly because you pretend you know "facts", instead of admitting you only know a certain reading of said facts.

This is not what science is all about.

Bring them all in here, let's talk this over.

/intj/

-atheism
-iq testing
-rate my major

>>4849177
+1

>>4849177
There's already Reddit for this type of stuff

>>4849159
Fuck off summer friend, having all the threads on the first pages about qualia , atheism vs religion, economics or "help me choose my major' is not what we want and is not science

But then again all this could be solved by having more and better mods

A philosophy and religion board.

>>4849153
/hol/ is for holistic and part of psychology.

/hol/ Psychology/ biology/ medicine (IE soft sciences. Possibly also geology.)
/math/ Mathematics (also statistics and economy)
/Ph/ Physics and chemistry
/phi/ Philosophy. This will draw every wannabe philosopher angsty teen creationist nihilist and make other boards better. Ideally it should be so shitty that no one cares to post there and those sentiments will fade from 4chan.

What about an astronomy and cosmology board?

>>4849225
this. it would also clean up /pol/

>>4849234
To be explicit: /phi/ will be a red herring for all those too stupid to be cognizant of the fact.

However, the general board /sci/ should also be removed it will still attract some proportion of illiterate monkeys. A general science board speaks to those with no patience or intelligence and we do not need those here.

>>4849246
I disagree, I don't get why you people get mad at "non-scientists" asking questions here. They're here to get answers to their questions. we don't have to be elitist faggots and tell them to go away

>>4849139
We DEFINITELY need a board for just the hard sciences, one of the following partition schemes:

(math/physics/chemistry)
(math/physics) (chemistry)
(math) (physics/chemistry)
(math) (physics) (chemistry)

and all the other areas relating to science can be places wherever, I couldn't care less.

>>4849286
There will still be science-related boards, just none so general. I don't mind philosophy or philosophers. I mind those who think they are deep and important and that they by extension are deep and important.

I love philosophy, but that won't actually be what /phi/ will be about. It will akin to /pol/ and /r9k/. Those who have valuable insights will naturally gravitate away from it, and those who migrate there will never know their loss.

Regardless of whether you want such a thing or not, that is what a philosophy board will naturally become and that is what you should consider when placing your vote, for or against.

I'm not going to further elaborate or mention my rationale for this because it will undermine the whole thing.

Remember:
A vote for /phi/ is a vote for a better future.

Does any of this matter? I mean I want it to happen too,

but what are our chances of actually getting them to make more boards on 4chan just to split this one up?

>>4849324
>>4849021

this

getting a specific board for philosphy will clean this one up a bit. then all we'll need will be some god damn MODS

math needs it own. people who actually enjoy solving problems, and sharing answers, not for school necessarily, but like the imo/putnam/a-p, etc

>>4849324
A philosophy board is a must.

OR

Keep /sci/ as it is and make a /math/. Everyone that knows what they're talking about will go to /math/

>>4849352
or just a homework board in general?

They could turn /sci/ into a science help board. So all the trolls and homework requests and general science shenanigans will end up here.
Then there can be separate specialized boards like /math/ /phy/ or whatever for more serious discussions.

How about an astronomy board?

Or
astronomy, physics, cosmology, chemistry, geology. All the natural sciences.

Then
biology/ psychology/ medicine

And
math. Mathematics mainly for its own sake, as well as the philosophy and history of mathematics. I think statistics and economy go here.

And
/phi/. A vote for /phi/ is a vote for wisdom.

>/phi/ movement picking up strength

YES

/econ/ - Stupid economics bullshit that doesn't belong here
/phil/ - Stupid philosophy bullshit that doesn't belong here
/career/ - Stupid career bullshit that doesn't belong here
/hmwk/ - Stupid homework bullshit that doesn't belong here
/soft/ - Any "science" that is not physics, math, chemistry, or engineering
/fag/ - For freshmen to circle jerk about their supposed intelligence

There needs to be a philosophy or /phi/ board: it would help out /sci/, /lit/, and to a degree /r9k/.

Splitting /sci/ up seems pretty stupid: /sci/ doesn't have too much activity as is. I don't think moot has ever split up a slow board or has ever even considered splitting a slow one up. So yeah.

Although /sci/ hates to admit it, the softer sciences are still sciences -- or at the very least, they're science-y enough not to fit in anywhere else. Making a new board is not a good solution; it would be better if the mods made an "official" announcement saying they're OK.

Also, homework threads -- in and of themselves -- are not that bad. They only get bad when /sci/ is inundated with them. I think a sticky or a huge thread without a bump limit is the best way to deal with homework threads.

The problem is /sci/ being so slow as it is now, making other boards to clean it up will make even slower, it will become like some obscure *number*chan from the web which gets 10 posts per week.

New boards are not a substitute for lack of moderation.

None of this will or should happen. /sci/ is a tiny board relative to the rest of 4chan and is far too small to split up. /phi/ would be absolute shit, and won't cut down much on the religion vs. science threads because those are mostly trolls. Stop worrying about how to get rid of the bad threads and start focusing on bringing in good threads.

/sci/ needs to be LESS exclusive, not more.

it's currently infested with physics majors, and let's face it, nobody wants to talk to them.

>>4849355
able people will stay away, so homework requests would go to /sci/ anyway. It's /r/ all over again

>>4849391
It's not a lack of moderation, it's wrongly executed moderation. Most troll threads get banned some hours after being reported, but sadly the mod doesn't understand humor. Nearly all harmless fun threads get banned as well. This is what turned /sci/ into a shit board.

More boards = less people overall on /sci/. the less people on /sci/, the slower /sci/, and /sci/ is already extremely slow. While some boards would get rid of some cancer, splitting /sci/ into /sci/ and /math/. There is no need for a /bio/ board or a /psy/ board.

An electric power plant generates electricity @ 22 kV
and 100 A. The voltage is stepped up to 240 kV before
being transmitted to a city 15 km away over a copper
wire that has a radius of 2 mm. Energy is lost in heating
the wire during transmission. If the transformer is 95%
efficient, and the price of electricity is 15¢/kWh, How
much money is saved per day by stepping the voltage up
instead of transmitting it at the original voltage?

--------------------------------------…
I understand most of the equations, but exactly how would you solve this and in what manner? If you could also state the given value for each variable beforehand, that would be great too. (e.g. I/current=?, etc.) Thanks in advance.

>>4849427
shit fuck. meant to make a thread. ignore that.

We need a female version of /sci/ like a science board where only women can post. Right now /sci/ is full of sexist and misogynist neckbeards.

>>4849378
AFAIK, economy threads are usually pretty good.


/hol/istic: biology, medicine, neuroscience, psychology
/nat/ural: physics, chemistry, astronomy, geology
/dx/ mathematics, statistics, patterns, probability
/phi/: A vote for /phi/ is a vote for Wisdom.

>>4849432
Where does /dx/ come from?

/rel/
religion

>>4849414
This is why we need more janitors not mods. We should also give janitors sticky and permasage powers.

>>4849428
>sexist and misogynist
>neckbeards (male shaming language, implies virgin (sex shaming), social ineptitude (creep shaming) etc.)
>sexist and misogynist

Yup you belong here, you're just the right amount of hypocrite.

Stay classy /sci/

>>4849453
I've seen a lot of legitimate science threads being put on autosage while religion, racism and random troll crap stays on the front page.

>>4849376
Wisdom belongs on >>>/lounge/

>>4849438
/dx/ alludes to calculus.

>>4849458
That happens automatically after 300 posts. It would be nice if there were a per-thread option to extend the bump limit, though.

/sci/ is a slow enough board to not require a clean up.
This ain't /v/

>>4849463
It was after two or three posts. You see the problem?

>>4849461
I'm a girl.

>>4849475
I figured, but that is irrelevant. You're being sexist while complaining about the sexism on the board.

>>4849475
>I have a vagina
>I have more rights than any other men here
GTFO you sexist fuck

>>4849469
It's probably either that you mistook something like 0.999...!=1, niggers have low IQ, qualia, teleporter, or my major can beat up your major for a legitimate science thread, or you're not aware of nokosage.

>>4849480
Did I hurt your feelings, neckbeard?

>>4849483
>>4849491
And no, I usually don't use nokosage when I want to bump a thread.

>>4849475
>btw

>>4849483
No, it were threads about methods of dna sequencing, metallurgy, tensor calculus (non homework) and relativity.

>>4849465
The speed of the board isn't a primary concern. The real concern is that of low-quality impatient roid-rage attention-mongering posts.

Slower boards lend themselves to more qualitative threads and at the same time make it less interesting for the more superficially inclined.

>>4849453
I know it's summer, but I spend more of my time reporting threads than posting these days

I'm seriously getting sick of it

>>4849486
I have the right not be harassed by sexists.

>>4849491
No. Archive links or it didn't happen.

>>4849497

This.

>>4849475
btw i'm a girl :)

>>4849498
Absolutely. But, that right does not give license to then be sexist against them.

>>4849496
Will take a bit longer to find them since it was about two or three months ago. Will try though.

Everybody please stop fighting and get back on topic.

Is /phi/ a good idea? Why?

>>4849508
So the general consensus seems to be /phi/ + more janitors, right?

How can we get it done?

i really don't think there's anything wrong with this board other than it's speed. i think the mods are doing a good job by not being completely authoritarian and deleting threads that aren't what you guys think of science, which is apparently just hard sciences which is very elitist of you. Science is synonymous with knowledge.

Moot should add thread and post hiding to the site like he did for quick reply etc. And threads you've reported should be forcefully hidden -- you don't get to report a thread and then continue arguing in it. If this is added, a recall mechanism for mistakenly reported posts may be needed, but this is a good idea anyway.

This will also give the people who constantly complain about shitty threads some perspective. They need to see for themselves that deleting the threads they don't like is not sufficient to make a good board.

>>4849531
smbc-comics.com

>>4849432
can someone please tell me the source of these comics?

>>4849531
reddit

>>4849536
thanks

>>4849504
I wasn't sexist. Defending myself isn't sexist.

I think that the mods here should be stricter on /sci/ rule #3, even if it occurs within the thread. Bringing up religion where it is only to incite anger is against the rules and should be acted upon as such.

>>4849531
Smbc

I have a better solution. Instead of trying (and most likely unsuccessfully) pushing for new boards, we should make a chan that is just for "intellectuals" like us that has these boards as well as a generic board that is for intellectuals in general, which is what I think /sci/ is and should be.

>>4849544
I totally agree with this. Having our board in plain sight of all the kids from /b/ etc isn't a great idea

>>4849544
The problem with splitting up /sci/ is that you'd get a bunch of slow boards. Your new chan will have even less traffic.

You are basically going to get
http://99chan.org/scitech/

>>4849539
The term "neckbeard" is a sexist term against men. It implies that the man is not conforming to steretypical male gender roles. For example sex shaming (they're virgins/lacks prowess with women, which is unbecoming of a real man), creep shaming (they're creepy/foreveralone/socially awkward, which is unbecoming of a real man), hobby shaming (they're interests do not involve physical exertion and therefore are unbecoming of a real man), economic shaming (they live in their parent's basement, which is unbecoming of a real man (but not women btw!)), etc. It would be like me saying "God, women are so misandrist, those sluts!"

>>4849562
All of the neckbeard qualities you listed perfectly describe the typical male /sci/ user. Why does stating the truth hurt you so much?

>>4849555
That is the problem I have with splitting up /sci/ into other boards. I was just suggesting that if we did split up /sci/, we might as well do it right by removing it from 4chan into it's own chan.

>>4849571
Ah I see, you're a troll. 9/10. You got me.

>Is /phi/ a good idea? Why?

>>4849234
>>4849246
>>4849324
>>4849508

Its quite immaterial that moot has never split a slow board or considered to do so. Fact is that /sci/ would benefit immensely from such a split.

Any thoughts on /dx/? Any better ideas? I doubt we could get the full four letters for /math/.

Also, logic would also belong on math, and possibly computerscience and information theory. Definitely information theory.

>>4849562
>mfw I according to this I am an uberneckbeard

>>4849580
Don't worry you're a smart handsome myn, you don't need to conform to what those misandrist women want you to be! lololol

So how many people are in support of splitting /sci/ into hard science, soft science, and math boards?

>>4849608
That's bullshit.

>>4849608
i'm not

/hw/

>>4849077
>I understand that, but I want to talk about philosophy without having to be inside a bucket of shit.

That's just not going to happen on 4chan. A philosophy board will turn out shit regardless of whether you or I want it to. I don't know if philosophy could be discussed on lit. I've rarely been to lit.


There isn't a great need for more mods. Given the appropriate boards everything would be better without any extra effort. It would solve itself.

/dx/ (derivative of x. Come up with something better.)
/hol/ (holistic) complex sciences
(let's be frank: that's what they are)
/nat/ (or /sci/) natural sciences
/phi/ phi is for Wisdom.

We definitely need /phi/ and /psy/. Basicallly, more boards is always a good solution and I don't remember when adding a board had actually decreased 4chan's quality overall.

>>4849055
This list, minus /econ/ and combining /bio/ & /psy/ and /phi/ & /rel/, including the /math/ and /sci/ split should be good.

>>4849497
Fucking THIS

>>4849574

But seriously though, it is a sexist term by that definition. Does that revoke its truth? Are you, then, not a shameless neckbeard?

>>4849630
I don't think we need a psychology board.

Psychology, neuroscience and medicine will go well together. Psychology won't, but it's the redheaded stepchild that no one wants and it'll belongs here more than anywhere else and doesn't really warrant a board of its own. We don't see overmuch shitposting of psychology and together with those others might keep it reasonable.

Together with biology and ecology. We can't allow biology to be left for herself.

>dammit captcha

I vote for /phi/ as well as /dx/.

Other ideas besides /dx/ could be /int/, it could stand for integer or integral. >>4849623

I vote /phi/. All religious trolls and stupid shit like "what is life" faggots would go there.

It would clean up /lit/ as well.

>>4849013
oh my god my sides

>>4849694
Would /bio/ not work? Maybe /hlt/ for health? No, neither of these work. /hol/ doesn't work either. I think we could get away with /math/.

>>4849779
/bio/ could work. It feels a bit too specific to me though.

I kinda doubt we could get /math/ seeing how it's four letters and no one else has that.

>>4849830
>it's four letters and no one else has that.

>>>/food/
>>>/book/
>>>/lang/
>>>/comp/
>>>/prog/

>>4849830
>>4849856
>>>/newnew/
>>>/carcom/
>>>/newpol/
>>>/lounge/
>>>/music/
>>>/sports/

why do you guys insist on splitting up /sci/? Science and Math go so well together...

It coulf be something like /pnmb/, like how /wsg/ has an awkward name

>>4849860
>>4849856
>text boards

>>4849872
Science & math split is lowest priority

/phi/ is highest priority

Mid-priority is /???/ - Psychcology, Medicine, Neuroscience, Biology, and Ecology

>>4849899
Neuroscience stays here. Piss off.

/sci/ is fine as it is. If you split it up into more boards, things will slow down to /n/ or /po/ levels.

What 4chan need is janitors and mods being able to set "default" threads. Threads about shit that is asked about daily and whenever a new thread is made that is a "default" thread a janitor or mod can add your comment to the default thread and make you go there.

Each board having their own default threads that can last a bunch longer than the others but do not show up on the front page, rather in a default page at the end. Kinda like we have /vg/, but then for every board.

All the religion and other bullshit can still be discussed, but they are done so in threads that do not reach the front page but have a longer time to discuss in.

It would be a blessing to pretty much every board that has tons of crappy threads on it every day. Just need quite active mods and janitors for it.

>>4849902
lol no, that's one of the worst pseudosciences, badly polluted by philosophy crap.

>>4849902
Then I'll take it off that list. It's all flexible up until moot does something.

>>4849955
Don't take it off the list.

>>4849963
Hah, none of this is even an official list. Hell, just /???/ - Soft Science should cover it or not, depending on what the users decide to post.

>>4849938
I like this idea. The ability to move threads between boards would also be good. In fact, it might be good to combine the two and have, for example, 1 atheists vs. agnostics general thread for the entire site since people will start these threads on every board.

Any further thoughts?

>>4850056
Make the r9k originality detection better and then put it on /b/, but with a mute time of 1 hour on every board.

Hell, even at its current state, it would be fine already.

>>4850027
But this would require changing 4chan's code.

>>4849021
>>4849021
I second
I like philosophy, I like science
But if you want to start philosophy here every physicsfag's gonna start "hurr durr we are atoms you question's irrelevant"
and it is also annoying that people think of things such as the higgs' boson as a proof of the existence of god or shit like that

>>4850108
I admit it is a bit soon after the last changes. But even then, its not like its somehow impossible now code has to be added.

Do religion, atheism, and the related really belong on a /phi/ board?

dayum
this thread made me curiously peek into /x/ (I'd never been there)
And fuck
5 threads about the illuminati
I stay here

I don't think you guys understand 4chan. People don't make religion or philosophy threads here because they think they belong here, they make them because they want to troll you. If you make separate boards for these things, all that will happen is all these new boards will sit around with a fraction of the relevant traffic /sci/ gets, but each will be filled with just as much trolling as we already get. The religion/philosophy thread will disappear, but they will be replaced by some other annoying threads.

>>4850143
They belong on a /troll/ board, so yeah, /phi/ would be the closest.

/comp/
/fag/

>>4850151
This.

If you fags actually believe someone starting a religion thread on /sci/ wants to seriously discuss religion, then you are fucking retarded. It used to be called trolling, although it's rather shitpoasting.

>>4850159
Well, the mods need to take care of it then. The shit doesn't get deleted.

>>4850147
lol

>>4850147
Ugh, I know. They really need /xc/ - Conspiracy or something. Illuminati and chemtrails aren't paranormal, people!

>>4850162
It gets deleted -- with a delay up to 24 hours.

>>4849899
Biology and neuroscience stay here, faggot.

>>4849779
>biology is about health
I wish I could beat you up over the Internet.

>>4850171
Only if you strip off the philosophical garbage.

>>4850176
I'm talking about the phsyical/chemical interactions; molecular and cellular biology as well as the study of how neurons work together.

>>4850153
The board for trolling is called /b/.

>>4850183
>>>/mlp/

So where would tulpas go?

>>4850179
Indeed. If only the /sci/ aspies could stop feeding every troll. I mean even /b/ manages to ignore the most unoriginal ones.

>>4850180
Good, then we agree.

>>4850186
>he browses /b/
laughing_whores.jpg

>>4850217
Why do you ask us?
Go ask Moot. He didn't make the board.

So what reasons even are there AGAINST /phi/?

>>4850219
I doubt he's had a large movement for it yet.

>>4850186
>even /b/ manages to ignore the most unoriginal ones
Sure, they may be able to ignore the unoriginal trolls, but they sure as hell soak up all the other unoriginal threads.

/psy/ - Psychology
/econ/ - Economics
/rel/ - Religion
/phi/ - Philosophy
/med/ - medical
/his/ - histoy

moot pls

/hom/ - homework

You can make the obvious homo joke, but it would clean up sci majorly

>>4849683
so admit to being a sexist, and a hypocrite?

>>4850243
Huh. Never even thought of history. But wouldn't /pol/ accept that?

>>4850243
If we send enough requests to moot I don't see why he wouldn't comply.

>>4850246
It would also help /lit/ and /diy/, along with other boards probably.

>>4849055
Shit idea

>>4850243
>>4849623
>>4849378
>>4849322
>>4849234
>>4849139

All of these are shit idea as well. One big toilet overflowing with shit is what this thread is. I can literally smell the scent of shit from my house that is thread is emanating. I called my friend who researches scat to come peruse through this thread and he's never seen shit of this magnitude before.

Philosophy/religion board= decent idea. I approve.

That's all that needs to change. Nothing else.

>>4850246
/edu/ - education, homework, and career advice

/x/ and /pol/

Now if only people would take their shit there...

>>4850294
For once I agree with blackman.
Have this nice picture relating to your post.

I mean really, it seems like it's unanimously agreed that /phi/ is a good idea.

>>4850338
Gross

Okay, every single person here should email moot about /phi/ right now. Link this thread and the installgentoo version.

>>4850478
And why exactly aren't you doing it right now?

Anyone else want to contribute?

>>4849010
I wonder what the equation would be for the up and down movement of the pump as a function of the spin of the motor.

>>4850570
probably parametric trig equations

Have you emailed moot about /phi/ yet?

>>4850883
I did.

>>4850243
If you take real psychology and medical related discussion out of /sci/, you wouldn't get many good threads. Some of the best have been brain related.

>>4850294
Listen to this man.

>>4850940
Yeah, the only one not contested was /phi/.

You know, 99chan /scitech/ isn't bad. Maybe we should focus on accumulating groups of like minded individuals, instead of making new communities.

>>4851100

I'm with you on this. I seriously doubt making a /phi/ would clean up /sci/ to where I would go on it for more than 10 minutes a day.
We'd still contend with the daily degree hierarchy, homework help, college counseling, life consoling, and "i'm in high school and want to major in astrophysics/theoretical physics" threads.

>>4849536
>smbc
fuck, why didn't I know this

>>4851133
/phi/ is just a first step.

No new board can clean up /sci/. We can get rid of some superficial shit threads, but the real problem are the resident posters. Among them are the most autistic and the most hateful cancerfags.

>>4852019
Well what do those resident terrible posters post about? Make a board about it. There has never been an instance where making a new board has been bad for the split board.

>>4852023
We have a board for shitposting, it's called /b/. The problem with /sci/ is that the shitposters here are that autistic to make themselves believe they are science posters.

>>4852026
True, but saying >>>/b/ has no effect. If there was an actual board with that topic of discussion, then the redirect would work.

>>4852038
A board with what topic? A board for shitposting delusional autistic undergrads who think they know all of science and can look down on others? Wait, we have such a board and it's called /sci/.

>>4852042
Well, what we'd have to do is monitor what the shitposts are, and make the general umbrella topic for those posts the topic of the board. For example, some people suggested things like /uni/ for major/career/college stuff. But you have to keep in mind that these are all baby steps.

>>4852130
I wasn't talking about the carreer spam or something like that. By real shitposters I mean those who come think they know science and math and who post in actual science and math threads just to call others retarded or autistic. They are the worst, because they kill every thread. And they won't switch to any other board because they thnk of themselves as science posters.

>>4849021
was just going to say the same.

mods won't do this
mods don't do anything ever.

Honestly - I think we're fine 'as is'. Yeah we get shit threads now and then but they're easy to ignore and the stuff that isn't shit is usually really fucking good.

if you would make /uni/ and /phi/ everything would be solved. I'm pretty sure /uni/ is not achievable, but /phi/ would probably get enough traffic and would really make a difference here too.

So it seems like a /uni/ movement is starting. This could be good.

Actually, how does one make a *chan? We could get a few of us to make a /sci/chan, but there has to be a guide on how to do it out there somewhere.

More janitors so we have less obvious troll threads.

Otherwise no control and certainly not more boards. We don´t want to end like 420chan with next to no posts. This isn´t a serious place for serious /sci/ence, but after all, 4chan.

>>4852502
/sci/ seriously needs more janitors. That can be on at all hours of the day.

What about a board for meta /sci/ discussions? Like rather than scientific discussion it's just talking to the poeple that visit /sci/

>>4852834
That would only really work on a /sci/chan.

>>4852846
/sci/chan.org/b/
I wouldn't go in there for anything in the world

Would anyone be opposed to a /psy/ board?

>>4852956
I say no. Only good things would come from it.

/col/
College advice

>>4853221
Wouldn't /uni/ work better?

Would /phi/, /psy/, and /rel/ work as one board?

>>4853352
/phi/ and /rel/ might, but I don't know about /psy/...

More boards would do us good.

So which would be the best board to add?

I feel like we need a computer thread. For people who want to compare desktops (a common /b/ pastime) , talk about software and shit, and do comp sci stuff. Since it's obviously despised on this board

>>4854332
>>>/g/

>>4852245
>I wasn't talking about the carreer spam or something like that. By real shitposters I mean those who come think they know science and math and who post in actual science and math threads just to call others retarded or autistic. They are the worst, because they kill every thread. And they won't switch to any other board because they thnk of themselves as science posters.

I have to agree about this. Those are absolutely the worst posters on /sci/. Trolls, homework and choose-my-major are far less disruptive. They are on all boards, but /sci/ more than than most. To clarify I'm talking about those who post solely to let us know that "This thread is bad". And I don't know what can be done about those.

Someone previously in the thread expressed doubts about whether a /phi/ board would solve anything since trolls won't away because they're here for the sole purpose of trolling /sci/.

/aut/ vincere aut mori

/maj/ or /edu/ for school advice

>>4854486
So you're talking about people like that one zealot who bashed meditation. Funny thing, the mods share his sentiments.

>>4854486
We just have too gently relocate their targets, while pruning these people from making those posts.

>>4854486
>To clarify I'm talking about those who post solely to let us know that "This thread is bad".
So essentially what you're telling us is, these posts are bad?

>>4854540
No, maybe I misrepresented the issue. It's more correct what >>4852245
says.


Maybe not as important as

Econ/Finance

Please for the love of God

>>4849010
There're enough boards. Quality threads however...

>>4854610
More boards has always proven to be better for the rest of 4chan. At the bery least, it'd spread the shit thin.

I think it's retarded to even consider a religion board, the only reason they come here is to spread their beliefs. They wouldn't stay in their own board and we shouldn't have to cater to idiots
>religious
>on 4chan
pick one

>>4854664
So just have it be incorperated into /phi/.

/phi/
/uni/
/psy/
/econ/

We can all agree on these, right? With most important and needed on top and least important/needed on bottom?

Delete /sci/. Problem solved.

It was a failed *experiment*.

>>4854664
Do you seriously believe any of the religion posters here want "to spread their beliefs"?

OH GOD MY SIDES

You are either trolling or the newest newfag ever. There are no religious people on 4chan. They are trolls and shitposters trolling other trolls and shitposters.

>>4854675

>personal biases everywhere

>>4852245
What makes you think there's some distinct class of people who make all the namecalling posts and never say anything constructive?

You do realize that people get mad on the Internet?

Why /phi/ will not work:
>If I were to use a teleporter, would the guy who appears at the other side be the real me or just a copy?
>in b4 /phi/, I want scientific answers only

>>4849500
every damn time

>>4854730
Occasionaly getting mad over a sophisticated troll is excusable. The people I was talking about already enter the board with an aggressive and destructive attitude, taking the "stop liking what I don't like" to a new level.

I have thought about it. A major problem is that aspies seem more prevalent in the hard sciences. There's a minority who do routinely dismiss anything that isn't provable to an arbitrary rigour.

By splitting off the soft sciences we would have fewer conflicts in that regard, and fewer shitposts from petty disagreements.

/bio/ or /hol/
biology, medicine, psychology, neuroscience

/math/ or /dx/
math, obviously, and finance, which I don't think applies anywhere else and that I don't think warrants its own board. Comp science goes here. Logic goes here. Those would benefit from being without the company of the hard sciences.

/sci/ or /Ph/
Natural sciences: Chemistry, physics, astronomy, geology. Math could go here, but some things mathrelated don't belong as stated above.

/phi/
A vote for /phi/ is a vote for wisdom.

>>4855540
/hol/, /dx/, and /ph/ don't work, and /bio/ doesn't make sense for psychology. Also, I don't see how /econ/ would fit within /math/, same as comp sci.

The most important would be
/rel/ - Religion & Philosophy

>>4849077
>But I want to shit without having to sit over a toilet

Reading this, and being pretty new to /sci/, I don't really get what the issue is. If you don't like a thread, don't post in it. If there's a lot of threads you dont like, make a more interesting one. The problem isnt an abundance of other fields on /sci/, but a lack of science on /sci/

A dedicated math board is definitely needed. With math it's at least easy to actually verify if someone's spouting shit or not compared to natural sciences where some things can only be taken on trust (unless the corresponding experiment is performed which e.g. in the case of CERN is nigh impossible). It would also serve as a quick way of checking for bullshit like 0.999...!=1 threads and so on, just refer to a pro from /math/ or whatever it should be called. Basically I'm envisioning it like a less formal and for humors sake more vulgar math.stackexchange or MathOverflow.

>>4855540
What do you think of /uni/?

>>4855941
Keep it /phi/, not /rel/. Religious discussion would go there, but the name would have slightly less shitstorm potential.

>>4856021
/uni/ is for homework? I'm not sure there's a need. Homework threads get quickly answered and quickly forgotten.

I should explain the rationale for /hol/istic. Those are the unifying sciences that try to describe the whole picture as opposed to the likes of physics that tends to zoom in on the details. But just because I think it's a good idea doesn't mean anyone else does (in fact that usually bodes for the opposite).

>>4856470
/hol/istic is obscure, and we want this to be simple.

/uni/ would be for much more than homework, in fact /uni/ wouldn't even be for homework. It's more for discussion of majors, college tips/choice, and careers.

Since you have posted many times in this thread, what do. You think of a /sci/chan?

i like the idea of breaking off religion/philosophy/psychology/sociology from /sci/, but i see no reason to get rid of the biology stuff. no matter how easy some of you may consider it to be, it's still a natural science and i think it is just as relevant as math, physics or chemistry.

>>4856678
not to mention, it gets pretty interdisciplinary from biology onward, between biology/chemistry, chemistry/physics and of course physics/math

Three boards:
/phi/
/psy/
/uni/

All we need.

Remember to email moot

Yes, /sci/ is one of the slowest boards, so it could benefit the most from further fragmentation.

/sci/ has six regular users, they should each have their own bored.

>>4849029
College sounds nice. I wouldn't mind a finance board either.

But you know college would just be /soc/ for students.

>>4856992
/phi/-dude, like what if the blue you see and the blue i see, like, aren't the same?

/psy/- I would like this thought it would turn into therapy and Freudian trolling.

/uni/- /soc/ meetups on campus.

uni is a FUCK no

>>4850260
If moot makes a /phi/, something i've been begging him for since before he made /lit/, history should be on topic discussion there.

>>4860074
Also psychology should be on topic there. Jung and Freud are basically 20th century philosophers.

You don't see /x/ asking for /nope/ /summon/ /ritual or /b/ asking for /pedo/ /tard threads/

...

etc.

/soft/ or /ss/

make a /bio/ board for general homo threads and bio majors.

>>4860106
>/ss/

Tee hee

>>4860245
Starting strength goes to /fit/.

There is no reason to not add new boards to help /sci/

>>4860106
>/ss/

>>4860106
I think 7chan has one of those.

>>4860106
>/ss/
>mfw