/sci/ - Science & Math

DATS RAYCISS

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Commentary on intelligence is one thing, but border collies and dalmatians are still the same subspecies of the same species.

Get back to /pol/ shithead

>>4830474
SO FUNNNNNNNN I'M SWIMMING IN A SEAAAA OF FUNNNNNNNNN OHHH

question is why does this matter to you op?
Do you feel better now?
Well this, in you understanding of course, fact change anything?
I'm genuinely curious about these questions.

>>4830643
Why does science matter to you? Why do you search for facts? If it's a fact that blacks are less intelligent then let it be made public no matter how politically incorrect it is. No one is saying kill all blacks, just that it should be publically known that blacks are less intelligent in general.

>>4830643
> Why does human biodiversity matter.

We've all been lied to, and many of today's policies are based on the false premise that all humans are equal.

>>4830479

BABY CAN YOU FEEL THE LOVE?

>>4830660

Abos aren't negros, they're australoids. They're highly mixed with Denisovans. Skin color means shit, race subspecies are not skin deep.

Cam we just be honest here and replace the word aboriginal with Black people?
I mean seriously...
You damn people should know! It's just science.

>fact
>breed

breed is not a scientific term, according to science, all dogs are dogs.

>>4830665

Better?

there is indeed human diversity and intelligence difference between races, however the conclusions stormfags draw from them are not scientific

do you think black people should be treated differently, as in having different rights?

>>4830669

Without looking at emotional appeals and morality, do you?

>>4830669
Why can't we just have it known publically that blacks generally have lower IQ's? Why must we be politically correct?

>>4830652
So you just want people to know a fact? Lets say that in 50 years being black is now a known fact that you have lower cognitive abilities. Do you know what will that result in?
>being black will be treated as special needs kids, getting the equivalent education yet in different manners and time period.
And you can guess the rest from here. It really is pointless what you're trying to prove. It feels more emotively driven too.

>>4830665
According to science, all dogs are not equal. It is demonstrable that different breeds of dog have different temperaments and capacities for learning. Call it whatever you like: breed, ethnicity, subspecies, race. The ability to interbreed does not make two individuals representative of separate subclasses of a species identical.

>>4830673
Yes.

Creating a literal global conflict of extermination and absolutist thought is not good for business, so to speak.

Your final solution creates more potential issues than it solves.

>>4830678

Because science must kowtow to morality, public opinion, and politics. Sorry sciencefag, that's life.

>>4830682

How is acknowledging genetic differences and some final solution go hand in hand? Did you fly off the slippery slope onto the moon?

>>4830685
That would work if /pol/ didn't lay the implications for me.

>>4830689

So we should bullshit and lie through our teeth, just because /pol/ acts like children? Science is the search for truth, I don't care how children and immature adults react to fact.

>>4830682
implying black people can think rational..

>>4830682
Because acknowledging the different properties of dog breeds has led to "a literal global conflict of extermination and absolutist thought", right?

The thing about white people is though that they're NOT the smartest.
Asians beat the shit out of you.
If you want to be racist, atleast get your facts straight and quit being so jealous.

>>4830693

BORDER COLLIE MASTER RACE

EXTERMINATE THE CHIAHUAHUA
CHIHUAHUA IS PIG SHIT

>>4830696

Since when? Count all Mongoloids in the same group, and they wouldn't win crap. Asians(East Asians) aren't a race. So count the southeast asians, the siberians, the native americans, etc. There's your average.

Now compare it to caucasoids.

>>4830703

Equal as a term means literally diddly-squat to science.

>>4830677
this is /sci/, even if we agree that human "races" are not the same, it doesn't make them not equal. Here, equal is used in a moralistic sense, not a scientific sense.

>iq measures intelligence
>blacks have lower iq's
>whites higher, therefore superior!
>asians have higher iq's than whites
>-u-um b-but whites made more inventions and discoveries and stuff so that means we are superior...

>>4830707

East Asians are not a race, did you not read this post,
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>>4830700
>caucasoids
You mean that group filled with equal amounts of ultra of average intelligence people and tailorpark trash who fuck their sister?
There's your average

>>4830711

Who cares what it's full of, the average for Caucasoid is around 100. Average for Mongoloids is somewhere between 85-97. You can't count Caucasoids as an entire race(including North Indians, Arabs, Berbers, etc) while only counting East Asians. That's retarded.

>>4830706
i know, that's the point.

>>4830715
I would like to see the peer reviewed studies that support these statistics you've pulled out your ass.

>>4830720

Peer reviewed studies on what? You want me to compare Caucasoids to just East Asians? Why not just compare Germans or Scandinavians to just East Asians, they'd win then.

>>4830669

No, they should be treated equally.

Why then is there affirmative action?

>>4830725
>Actually thinks Germans are a master race
I bet you even believe that they descended from Atlantians.
It's hard to convey how much I'm laughing at you

>>4830729

WHY ARE YOU PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH

Did I say germans are the master race, you dumb fucking cunt? I said if you're going to only count East Asians in the entire Mongoloid race, why can I pick and choose Scandinavians, or the English, or the Germans, who have high IQs as well?

Learn to read.

>>4830707

I have yet to meet a single 'racist' who does not accept the fact that Asians are smarter than them.

You're materialising an argument out of nothing.

>>4830731
And I'm saying that if you compared Asians in general to Caucasians, Asians would win.
Then when you pull statistics out your ass like "white people on average have an IQ of x and asians y" I tell you to cite your sources.

>>4830731
>your face when

>>4830735

Give me a study where Mongoloids in general are compared then. That means Southeast Asians, Siberians, Native Americans, and so on. NOT just East Asians who have an average IQ of around 105.

>>4830737
I can't. But then again I have no need to, I'm not the one pulling random statistics out their ass.

>>4830741

You are the one that claimed Asians have a higher IQ than whites, so prove it. You claim, you prove. Don't be a christfag.

>>4830742
And you're claiming the opposite except with _exact_ figures that are completely unsourced.

>>4830452
I think culture has more to do with it.

Being raised in a culture that values education and intelligence is likely to rub off onto those within it.

There were quite a few blacks, indians and other dark-skinned people who were quite intelligent at my school.

Their were also many white skinned, blue eyes, blonde haired people who grew up in families where education wasn't valued and, therefore, were shitstains

In fact, that smartest were middle-easterners, asians and indians. As well as a black or two.
The whites were actually in the middle to bottom-end.

Explain that sci faggots.

It's more cultural than anything.
Raise an abo in a family that values western education and watch them adopt that mentality.

Sophist stormfags hide behind the mask of science but in the end they only want to convince people that race mixing is wrong so they can start an ethnic cleansing without opposition. Do not fall into the trap /sci/

>>4830745

I gave very rough-estimations off this map I found on google, I did not claim it as gospel truth. What I disagree with, is when people only count East Asians, and then compare it to all Caucasoids and say (WELL YOU SEE MONGOLOIDS > CAUCASOIDS).

>>4830751

Both you and the stormfags are wrong, so fuck off. You'd have us bullshit through our teeth for political correctness. Stormfags would take things completely out of context and claim unscientific shit.

In short, FUCK YOU BOTH.

>>4830746
You dense motherfucker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

>>4830750
>2012
>Mongoloids are smart
wat?

>>4830753

>In short, FUCK YOU BOTH.

THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

TAKE THIS FUCKING SHIT OFF /sci/

I don't care about your fucking morality or political correctness, I don't care about master race. I care about facts, I am apolitical.

>>4830752
You're rationalising on the same test I use.

From the samples that I have analysed, where I came from a wealthy school, the 'ethnics' performed better than the 'white's'

anyway, /sci/ is pretty asian/white elitists. don't expect any different.
shit board.

>>4830754
I saw what you did there.

>>4830757

>I am apolitical

>I am incapable of critical thought

Fix'd

>>4830758

I'd trust statistics over personal opinions and accounts. Emotional bias is almost always present in them.

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>Given opportunity to learn
>LOL I dun need te reed dat link or lern i ken joost beleef wot i beleefd befur

i dont know man... but i don't think dogs are intelligent in IQ kind of way.

Border collin just resond better to repetitive behavior and rewards. its not real logic for them.

also the "intelegence" in dogs its the connection between humans and dogs that has evolved for since stone age. every dog has this connection with humans.. and it makes them behave "smart" and you feel like they understand you = smart. but they are not good at logic they are not good at engineering. a monkey is better in logic .. they are not that good at responding to humans.

ramble...ramble..any questions?

>>4830768
that didnt explain shit

>>4830773
I'm calling you out for ignoring evidence that contradicts your preconceptions. Because everyone knows that YOUR anecdotes overrule all statistics.

Why are the vast majority of scientific intellectuals liberal?

checkmate nazifags.

>>4830762
it doesn't seem like a reliable test.

>>4830780

Pop sci hipsters don't constitute scientists, sorry. The overwhelming majority of scientists are apolitical and don't give one fuck about "HURR I LUV NEGROS HURR SIEG HEIL".

>>4830778
>mine

Wasn't me.

'Statistics'. That test was pretty pathetic, to be quite honest with you.

>>4830783
>>4830777

You say it's an unreliable test, but you over no reason why, nor do you provide alternative but anecdotes. Nice science you got there.

No whites or asians can complain when people say blacks have bigger penises or are more athletic. If people can complain when it is pointed out that blacks are intellectually inferior, then why we also shouldn't tolerate people saying blacks have bigger penises and are more athletic.

If you think it is "not right" to say blacks are not as intelligent, then you should be consistent and be offended when someone say whites are not as strong or "gifted".

Not enough credit is given to the individual.

I've come across many an intelligent black person in my time.
And many a dumb white.

Vice versa, as well.

No whites or asians can complain when people say blacks have bigger penises or are more athletic. If people can complain when it is pointed out that blacks are intellectually inferior, then we also shouldn't tolerate people saying blacks have bigger penises and are more athletic.

If you think it is "not right" to say blacks are not as intelligent, then you should be consistent and be offended when someone say whites are not as strong or "gifted".

>>4830790

yea about that penis thing .. its just a myth.. you interracial cuckhold fetish is not the real deal.. sorry

>>4830796
>>4830796

Ok then, if you also pretend blacks are not more athletic, then i'm fine with you. You're ignorant, but at least you're consistent. I can live with that.

>>4830793
WN ideology is fundamentally collectivist and authoritarian, which adds a certain irony when they complain about people taking their free speech away.

>>4830798

hmm can you pls provide me the scientific evidence that they are stronger and have bigger penises. we are on sci after all

>>4830805
WN?

And are you disagreeing or agreeing?

>>4830793
Whites are more intelligent when it comes to living within a Western society.

I'd love to see a white male survive within the conditions of an Aboriginal society. They'd be racially discriminated against as dumb and stupid.

>>4830809
Do your own research. I'm not your lecturer or tutor. I'm not paid to spoon feed you information. Your ignorance is not my responsibility.

>>4830805

All scientists are "collectivists" as well, bro. You wouldn't see a scientist base his entire study off of one animal, he's study hundreds, thousands, and make an observation.

Basing all of your views off of one individual is illogical.

>>4830452

>I'm an Aboriginal Australian.
>I'm doing a maths degree.
>Lowest mark: 93%

I am smarter than most of those in the Australian education system.

>>4830809

i thinks is just you fat white hamburger eatin americans that are fucking with the stats.

if you send a million white people down in harsh environment africa. then you will see who begins to build muscles fast

>>4830817
WN = white nationalist

And I agree 100%

>>4830680
If that was the case, we'd still know that Earth is the center of the universe.

>>4830823
i am a torres strait islander, and i am about to receive a fields medal for my work on the hodge conjecture.

btw, i'm a girl.

>>4830819

>harsh environment africa

Surviving the cold long nights in the Arctic or near-Arctic, especially during the Ice Ages is much more difficult than surviving in the tropics EVER was. The only reason Africa is a harsh environment, is because Negros will kill you for your clothes.

>>4830823
Half abo?
Or full abo?

And don't worry. I've come across many intelligent blacks and ethnics.
It's cultural more than anything.

White civilisations were in constant war which led to the need for 'advancements'
Aboriginals had no need for such until settlers annihilated them. By that time it was too late. They had no need to progressively advance like the Anglo-Saxons etc.
They were never under threat.

>>4830815

the get the fak out. you are not a real scholar you are not a real /sci/..

the evidence don't exist and you are talking bullshit. and cant back it up..stop talking.

stupid lazy redneck.

>>4830823

You're a pure abo? Also, pics please, I can claim myself as orlando bloom here. Provide proof if you're going to use anecdotes.

>>4830828
THIS 100000%%%%

WAR HAS BEEN THE MAIN CAUSE TO 'ADVANCING'

fucking plebs

>>4830831
what math degree and university?

>no stalker

just want to know whether your doing babby tier or not

>>4830832
but you are orlando bloom, that is, you're a stupid faggot, literally

While I agree that you're correct, Japanese asians are probably the most intelligent race.

I'm white btw.

>>4830827

living in cold environment makes you fat.. because fat is helping you be warm. look at Eskimos

and you cant do any exercises or hard work in arctic environment its too cold.. nigga pls

living in hot area makes you sweaty, shiny and makes you body-fat 1%

>>4830834
My degrees were from Trinity, Cambridge.

I'm a fellow here.

Blacks, like females, have been culturally oppressed for ages. once they are fully liberated, you will see more contributing to science and politics and the economy.

there are hardly any white females contributing to society. let me guess, they are inferior to males?

>>4830847
*intellectually, I mean.

My apologies

>>4830845
>there are hardly any white females contributing to society
except all that having and raising children thing they do between watching soaps and giving blow jobs

>>4830844
I find that incredibly hard to believe.

What's your degree exactly?

>>4830841

Living in a cold environment forces you to move a lot lest you freeze to death. Gotta keep your body heat high, can't do that by derping all day.

Also, the wolves, the fucking wolves. Wolves were a nightmare in those times. Freezing cold, barely any food, and wolves EVERYWHERE. Fucking thankful I was born in modern times.

>>4830849
Maths tripos.

>>4830836

So because I require proof for your anecdotes, I'm a faggot?

Well you see, I'm actually 7 feet tall, 11 inch dick, and my IQ is 204. I'm white as fuck, hell, I'm actually descended from ancient aliens. jelly?

>>4830850

Doesn't this guy look cuddly?

>>4830850

no brah.

they are like sitting in igelos and burning seel fat/oil to get warm. they are NOT moving a lot. and they eat whale meat and get fat.

if you are stuck in a cold area ... dig yourself down in the snow.. don't try to move around to get heat. well if you manage to run to safety then that is a better alternative

>>4830857
no, you're just a faggot, period.

>>4830874

confirmed jelly. hey "genius abo girl" want some of my 11 inch dick? confirmed ancient alien descended

>>4830871

That's the far-far arctic, I'm talking about the sub-arctic, though might as well be arctic during ice ages.

Thread has become shit.

Game over.
Everyone split.

>>4830886

it began shit .. and now its better.


imma stay here all day :)

wait wait, so what you're telling me op, is that jews are the most intelligent breed of human??

Libturds want to believe so much that blacks are equal even when all the evidence points to the fact that they are less initelligent.

>>4830671
Asiatic and African lion can but don't breed, so it makes sense to make separated subspecies.
African and Caucasian man can and do breed, so it would be meaningless to make separated subspecies.

>>4831322

It's about whether they should treated as equals at social level.

>>4831334
If they are not equal why should they be treated equal?

>>4831343
because they are men.
By your logic, you shouldn't be treated as good as someone that has a higher IQ than you, even if you are white and he is black.

>>4831343

Do you think it is a good idea to reconfigurate society based on statistical measures of intelligence on population samples, and not personal achievents?

>>4831343

Do you think it is a good idea to reconfigurate society based on statistical measures of intelligence on population samples, and not personal achievents?

Mr Tyronhe applies for an IT and for some reason happens to be more qualified than his white counterpart applicant. Does he not deserve the job because statistically, he is more likely to commit a crime or steal something?

>>4831366
I think that's the point of view Mr /pol/ here is defending.

>>4831366
Mr Smith applies for an IT and for some reason happens to be more qualified than his non-mentally ill counterpart applicant. Does he not deserve the job because statistically, he is more likely to commit a crime or steal something?

>>4831377
skin color =/= mental illness

>>4831366

Mrs Tucker applies for an IT and for some reason happens to be more qualified than her male counterpart applicant. Does she not deserve the job because statistically, she is more likely to get pregnant and take time off?

ITT: People who do not have refined features are subhuman

As we all know, brilliant capable people are universally good-looking.

>this thread
>mfw

>>4830671
Non-human animals are often needlessly categorized into "subspecies" based on their geographic distribution, on the logic that, even though they can interbreed, they don't.

Humans, by contrast, are a global species. Persons from different geographical regions frequently breed with each other. In humans' case, it does not make sense to use this convention.

>>4830840

>japanese asians
>an entire race

Also, weeaboo detected.

>>4831391
It's called an analogy you fucktard. I though the question was obvious but apparently you're an utter moron. It is thus: Should employers ever discriminate based on group statistics?

>>4831607
They already do, it's called affirmative action.