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Anonymous Mon Jul 2 23:08:59 2012 No.4829563 [Reply] [Original]

Why can't Relativity and Quantum Mechanics just get along. I just want them to be fucking friends like they were meant to be.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 00:50:43 2012 No.4829808 File: 1.06 MB, 1666x1136, 20060226-physics.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If only the dude in the middle were still here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 00:51:43 2012 No.4829811 >>4829808 Dirac?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 00:52:28 2012 No.4829812 >>4829808 Nah, Einstein totally utterly failed at connecting the two, and he spent decades trying (or rather, trying to screw over QM by finding a "better", alternative theory that didn't have any of the probabilistic "silliness" einstein didn't like)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 00:52:58 2012 No.4829814 >>4829811 I think he means Compton.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 00:54:58 2012 No.4829820 All physicists want that

Anonymous Tue Jul 3 01:00:13 2012 No.4829837

OP,

it's because we spend so much time beating around the bush teaching physics to kids.
I knew in middle school that I wanted to go into physics, yet I had to first learn mechanics, then mechanics again, then electromagnetism, then mechanics again finally using real vector calculus, then electromagnetism again finally introducing vector calculus, oh and now I have to learn mechanics another fucking time once I start graduate school... is that it? Oh and did I mention electromagnetism a third time?

Think about it. By the time people get to graduate school these days, they would have already known everything about physics at one point in the past. Then being so young and clever they can develop new theories...

But these days, you're lucky if you can say that you completely understand your field by the time you are 30. That's why physics is going so slow these days.
The oldies don't want to abandon an historical approach to teaching physics and just get right down to the nitty gritty. We suffer for it.

If we had just started with nothing but math, and then went right into lagrangian/hamiltonian mechanics maybe sophomore year of univerity and did things in that fashion you could learn so much faster.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 18:21:10 2012 No.4832449 I understand ya OP

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 23:23:32 2012 No.4833251 >>4829837 >not learning things by yourself

>>	General Vagueness Tue Jul 3 23:47:32 2012 No.4833321 >>4829808 I also wish Schrödinger was here... or do I? Anyway, OP, QM "stole" RT's GF.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 4 00:46:02 2012 No.4833468 Because it's called quantum electrodynamics

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 4 00:55:01 2012 No.4833483 probably going to need a new language to connect the two and after that we may find something new that the new language cant connect in the same way math could not then we would need another new language we'll be needing a quantum comp bout now

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