/sci/ - Science & Math

>smith

dude, hes called classyle

>Euler
>Shit Tier

Granted there wasn't anyone else to publish before him so he head free reign to trounce all of mathematics...but he still trounced all of mathematics.

What the fuck is Euler doing in mid-tier and Euclid in shit-tier?

What a load of shit.

It's shit.

And why are popularizers of science even on the list? They're not actual scientists.

So any scientist celebrities are automatically low tier?

Your hipster is showing

>>4776806
>Da Vinci
>Top tier

Seriously? He was a excellent scholar, that knew how to take notes with maximum detail. But that is it.

His inventions, while ahead of their time, never really worked. Saying he invented tanks and helicopters is like saying George Lucas invented light sabers. Imaging is not inventing.

As for scientific breakthroughs, I can't think of anything worth mentioning. No, physical phenomena, no mathematics, nothing. The best ,one could say, are his anatomic drawings. Some of them were the first ever done but was just a question of very little time until someone else had done them instead, as anatomy was a very hot topic at the time.

Edited the most obvious flaws.

>>4776858
Though I'm not sure about Cox. Does he even science?

>degrasse-tyson
>carl sagan
>low tier
>mfw

>>4776858
also Euler in two tiers at once. cross him out from shit tier since Project Euler exists

>tesla in god tier
>galileo and hubble in low tier

>>4776859

yeah, he has a childrens show about planets but thats as much as i've seen.

seriously.

>>4776885
Isn't Russell primarily a philosopher though? And Da Vinci needs to me mode to mid-tier since he's more of an artist, handyman, and anatomist

>da Vinci
>not God tier

>Darwin
>God tier

What the hell is this?

>>4776894
Agreed but I only edited the obvious ones I can just cross over. I'm going to edit it more throughly later.

>>4776897
>>4776897
The Origin of Species is the single most important book ever written by humans.

Darwin does not belong in the tier that Tesla and Einstein occupy. Those types of genius are worlds apart, if you could even call Darwin's work genius to begin with (as opposed to just smart, since I'm not aiming to rag on the guy).

>>4776902

Try harder.

>>4776902
>>4776908
It's not much of an exaggeration to say Darwin's idea is the most noteworthy and revolutionary idea in recorded human history. It allows a materialistic reductionist worldview. It explains the origin of morality, consciousness, etc., all in terms of physics and science.

>>4776903
Indeed. His work is observation and interpolation of that observation. Patterns. But the easy kind.

/include why biology isn't considered a hard science.

>>4776915
...but I still would consider him to be up there somewhere since he introduced the concept that would later evolve into evolution as we understand it now (by the many others that came after him) when the idea is unimaginable to many during his time.

I'd take Aristotle and Tesla out of God Tier and maybe add Feynman there.

>>4776894
Whoops, Bertrand Russell is a mathematician and logician in addition to being a leftist libertarian philosopher but I'd put him in mid-tier for getting a couple of math books out and being influenced by Euler and usually credited with being one of the two most important logicians of the twentieth century along with Godel.

> http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/history/Biographies/Russell.html

lol
I worked with Behe once...

>>4776952
My condolences. Hopefully nothing came of it that would tie you too together. Such things may ruin your career?

>>4776957
>too
Kill me now.

>>4776961
>Kill me now.
OK.

>BLAM.

>>4776957
nothing in print of course. The project he called me in on ended up being a legal clusterfuck and a friend of mine was able to pick up the pieces and make something of it. It was interesting watching christianity in action.

where the hell is reimann?

where's linus pauling

and where the fuck is von neumann?

>>4776972
>von neumann
Oh shit. Put him in top/god tier now.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK ABOUT EULER YOU DIRTY FILTHY SON OF A DISEASERIDDEN WHORE

would it be better to make a formal vote?
ie each person submits 5 scientist (have to have actually done science) then tallied?
although an anonymous image board isn't the ideal place to do it.

While I agree that Voltaire was a great thinker, he wasn't a scientist, mathematician or logician. Why is he even on the list ?

>>4777003
If you force people to use a common syntax, there won't be any problem thanks to flood detection

>>4777029
Voltaire the greatest writer and criticizer and politicizer, man. Greater than Shakespeare, Swift, Byron, and Poe. "______ but I'll defend to death your right to say _____," and all that. The greatest spit upon a king's and formality's face if ever one was spat.

Greater than Hume and Locke. He gives us the words to relax, and be not tense. He's like the Keeper of the Code in the order of the nine pirate lords. He's just there, for moral support, to remind us to have fun, to keep us on task with truths, and he's a bro.

What's the rubric? I'm having trouble understanding why Leibniz is low tier. Did he boink your mom and didn't call her afterwards?

I'm surprised Paul Erdos isn't in there...

He's single handily produced the most mathematical articles out there in the world. I don't understand why his genius isn't recognised.

>>4776925
I'll take this to be the current version, in which I'd move Leibniz to top tier and include von Neumman in God Tier. There are some people that need to be taken off completely.

>Dawkins
Why is he on that list? He could make it into troll, but that's the best he can do.

Kaku and deGrasse-Tyson should be switched in the OP

>>4776806
Where the fuck is fourier.

>euler lower than dirac
nigga what

>>4777286
>single-handily
you mean with the aid of anphetamine, lotsa coffee and the random mathematician which house just stormed in...

>>4777313
Done.

Also removed Mengele, Lysenko and the troll tier. If Newton is god tier, which I think everyone agrees, shouldn't Galileo and Kopernikus be much closer to him? Maybe add Adam Smith in shit tier?

>lysenko

What he lacks in scientific aptitude he more than makes up for with looking like a total bad ass.

>Leibniz
>low tier

get out

>>4777441
Please look always at the newest one. Pic related. Added Fourier, moved Galileo and Copernicus.

>>4777420

Add jacob barnett to troll teir

>>4777446
Forgot pic.

Hi guys,

What's going on in here ?

Oh, i see how it is

*sniff*

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.

pics are really sad

leibniz not god tier, but tesla is?

fanboy wankery

I sincerely hope the OP is a troll.

No OP but I've been trying to edit obvious idiots out of the list and add whatever mentioned.

>>4777454
Switched them.

>>4777451
I think it's better to get one final sensible list and let it be. At least I'm fucking tired of people worshiping popscience guys as geniuses.

>>4777062
But that still doesn't justify why he is on a list of scientists.

>>4777446
>No paracelsus

Without him there would not be modern medicine, he also helped the masses (gave lecture in german instead of latin), invented laudanum and many other things http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracelsus

Also needs fritz zwicky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Zwicky

Hypothesised neutron stars, coined the term supernovae, said galaxies could cause gravitational lensing decades before it was proved, first to hypothesis dark matter, made a theory to move the solar system, record holder for number of galaxies discovered

>Turing
>No Babbage

Why?

>Jung
>Shit tier

Pick one

>Hawking
>High tier

He isn't highly regarded by scientists

>No B.F.Skinner
>No harry harlow
Full retard

Why is Tesla even on the list?

>>4777484
Some other obvious ones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Vesalius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amedeo_Avogadro
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertram_Boltwood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Wegener

> mfw when euler mid tier.

Does anyone have Landau's list?

Maxwell isn't god tier. You don't need to look any further to see how bad the list is.

>include Tesla but no Heaviside or Bardeen

ignorant pop sci fanboy garbage

If you look closely, this list contains only names that you come across during high school and by watching TV.

>no Riemann, Kolmogorov, Landau, Bardeen...

Bacon should absolutely be God tier.

Where is Borlaug? He should at least be mid-tier.

>>4776815
EUCLID
EUCLID IS THE GEOMETRY GUY

>>4776806
>>4776806
>>4776806
>>4776806
>>4776806
>>4776806
>>4776806
EULER IS THE POLYMATH WHO SHOULD BE IN THE GOD TIER

>>4777029
>>4777062

Where did you get Voltaire from. OP must have been laughing when he added him.

Mendeleev should be near the top i guess.

descartes needs top tier for his epic lel le dick xDDD meme

lol

Added Landau, Kolmogorov, Riemann, Bardeen, Heaviside, Vesailus, Avogadro, Boltwood, Wegener, B.F. Skinner, Harlow, Paracelsus, Zwicky and Babbage. Also switched some people from place to place.

>>4777617
What for? Your list is autistic and doesn't apply to real world.

Removed Voltaire.

>>4777619
Great contribution. Basically I don't care much about these things but it's summer and I have nothing else to do.

sif no cantor in any of these

>>4777450

>mfw /sci/'s love of tesla
Face it he's a pretty useless inventor and hardly a scientist. Why would you put a shitty inventor of a couple electromagnetic devices above the genius who came up with much the theory behind electricity and light Maxwell, or the discoverers of Quantum Mechanics, Heisenberg and Schrodinger.

Also, Riemann and Turing I would argue should be in god tier

>HURR RICHARD DAWKINS DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE SHIT DURR
>Selfish Gene
>Introduce the concept of "meme"

Omg /sci/ is just full of pretentious fucks.

>Descartes

Since when is Philosophy considered a science?

I don't why err one dislikes those who popularise science.

Without them, society would be even more fucking retarded and less people would have an interest in science

>>4777722
Rationalism

>>4777611
stfu u cheeky cunt ill smash u irl

>>4777722

The standard x-y plain is a Descartes coordinate system.

>>4777736
This stuff (analytic geometry), along with rule of signs and related shit makes Descartes fine where he is, if not deserving of a higher placement.

>>4777724
But this is a tier list for scientists based on scientific achievements and merits. I think popscience is important but you don't even need to smart to do that. I kept Sagan on mostly as an honorably mention.

What about Archimedes? Why is Aristotle on the list but not him?
>Archimedes is generally considered to be the greatest mathematician of antiquity and one of the greatest of all time.

>>4777752

mfw popsci only creates more popsci

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Accomplishment
Combined sciences Index score
Newton 100
Galileo 89
Aristotle 78
Kepler 53
Lavoisier 51

Mathematics Index score
Euler 100
Newton 89
Euclid 83
Gauss 81
Fermat 72

Physics Index score
Newton 100
Einstein 100
Rutherford 88
Faraday 86
Galileo 83

Technology Index score
Watt 100
Edison 100
Leonardo da Vinci 60
Huygens 51
Archimedes 51


If Charles Murray (man behind the Bell Curve) is anything to go by, all of the above should be God/toptier

>Cauchy
>Riemann
>Von Neumann
>Hilbert
>Noether
>Poincaré
>Grothendieck
>Witten


Galileo in Low tier? OP sure as fuck went full retard.

>Cauchy
>the man behind the 10 gibozillion boring theorems one has to learn in Analysis 1 and Linear Algebra 1.

>not being put in Allofmyhate tier.

Gregor Mendel deserves to be on this list, his work provided the foundation for the field of genetics.

>>4777772
>Charles Alan Murray (born 1943) is an American libertarian political scientist, author, columnist, and pundit currently working as a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank in Washington, DC.

Reasons aplenty to completely dismiss your post.

>>4777752
Ignoring Sagans contributions to the Voyager missions? He didn't just do cosmos dude.

>>4777794
>>4777794
>liberal detected


Hello faggot.

Kaku is shit tier? Since when is adding field components to string theory shit tier?

>>4777790
OP here. I thought you were absolutely right, so I edited my original post so that Mendel is in mid tier. Satisfied?

>>4777799

Yup, he didn't do anything super special, but his work is rather important to science.

Mid-tier suits him just fine.

>>4777798
I was talking about the fact that he's a political scientist, and therefore not qualified to quantify contributions to actual sciences. And your liberal detector must be broken, because I'm a libertarian.

>>4777800
Well, Kaku spends some of his time to popularize science, and this makes him worse than Hitler.

>>4777811
>libertarian detected

Sup.

What's wrong with Tyson?

We should use some better ranking system. These /b/tard-esque tiers don't really tell anything about these figures and the placement seems arbitrary even though it generates a lot of discussion.

>god tier
>god

>No Blaise Pascal
>No Wittgenstein
>No Mill
>Putting Copernicus, the guy who kick started the Scientific Revolution in shit tier

What are you doing OP?

>>4776806
>sagan low tier
>kaku shit tier
>schrodinger mid tier
>da vinci in top tier
>kepler above hubble

>>4777831
He's contributed nothing of note and the small amount of things he has done were part of large teams

>>4777800
Since string theory was shit tier

>>4778880
What's wrong with string theory

8/10 trolling OP. I like how you made 90% of them correct and the remaining 10% obviously wrong.

For instance, Aristotle, Voltaire, Euler, Leibniz...

newton needs his own tier above god tier

>>4778896
Newton loses metagod status because of all that Bible and alchemy shit.

>>4778905
he would have been murdered otherwise

>>4778907
Don't make bullshit excuses, he spend the second half of his life doing no science at all but obsessing over the Bible and trying to turn piss into gold. There was never any social imperative to do this.

I propose God tier be edited to Genius tier

this is fucking stupid for putting Euler below Da Vinci and several others.

>>4780039
Or "True Scientist tier"

>mfw people rage about OP's picture without reading the whole thread

>>4776915
>include why biology isn't considered a hard science.
Only by a physicist wannabes at /sci/

>>4778886
>What's wrong with string theory
It's not testable - so it's not a science.

I know you're gonna hate me, but please put Aquinas somewhere. Hell, you fags could even put him in troll tier, but you can't argue he tackled metaphysics in a more scientific way than anyone short of Aristotle.

>inb4 rabid atheists

I want to like Tesla, but I associate him too much with conspiracy nuts.

Kaku: troll tier
Freud + Euler: Mid tier at least

>>4776806
The issue with this model is that there is no definitive criteria for assessing the worth of a specified individual.

I propose the following criteria for a more simplistic means of assessing it (this criterion can be edited in whatever manner necessary, as long as one is ultimately applied--rather than aimlessly guessing):

Innovativeness (1-9)

If the work is original in idea, and doesn't work predominately off of previously established principles or sources, it's significantly greater of an achievement.

Genius IQ (1-9)

The genius aspect is an obvious assessment of one's mental capacity to synthesize abstract concepts and explain them in, often, down-to-earth terms.

Influence (1-18)

This is of the greatest importance. Whether it is significance in a particular field or not, the influence is what separates the obscure individuals from the world-changers.

This may include practical value. As disputable as this may be, practical worth is among the most important factors--even in mathematics the influence of a particular finding can provide significant insight into its potential applications

Troll Tier: 1-6
Shit Tier: 6-12
Low Tier: 12-18
Mid Tier: 18-24
Top Tier: 24-30
God Tier: 30-36

Please edit this as you please; but I only propose this criteria to make our observations less arbitrary.

>>4780651
What about malus?

>>4780665
seems a bit too specific and of a negligible impact in contrast with the other listings--or, alternately, can be listed under "influence"

>Euler... below voltaire . Invert this

Insert Socrates in Top Tier

Insert Wierstrass in godtier.

Put Bohr in top tier and

Make einstein underneath Tesla.

>>4778905

Using that reasoning every western academic before Darwin deserves demotion because nearly all were Christian.

>>4777623

look at picture

>no marie curie
>no Henry bequerel

einstein hurrr durrr he came out with every thing from thing air

>WUT ?

>>4780679

I agree to this

>>4780622
Freud fits squarely in shit tier.
No recorded successful treatments, forgery, shit methodology, bullied patients, only politely respected by psychoanalysts and faced as historical value at best.


Also, in psychology, Jean Piaget should go in Low Tier and Steven Pinker in midtier.

all of them are scientist but who can solve this ?

>>4780699
The number of mines remaining allows you to solve that.

>>4780699
thats eysy. you have 5 spaces. no 2 next to each other can have no mines. you have 2 mines.

there is only 1 soluition.

(hint: from top to bottom: no mine, mine,no mine, mine, no mine)

its hilarious how physics biased people here are, as always pretending to think that a physicist knows everything about astronomy,biology, geology or chemistry...

>Tesla
>Not in segregated "Tesla Tier" above all others
>Da Vinci
>Not God
0/10 would not read.

>>4780681
Marie curie didn't do anything a peasant couldn't have done and she had her husband to help her

>>4780740
>Implying you are half aware of the mathematicians that aren't even included in the list. Like galois and wierstrass.

You are just a silly little religionistical like most people.

>>4780746
>religionistical
What

Is this proof that men are superior?

Place Aristotle in "Troll tier" and Faraday in "God tier."

>>4780713
>>4780706

>ok true i missed that one

but

what now faggots ?

>>4780754
>>4780665
>>4780676
>>4777617

It's unwarranted claims like this that make this entire pursuit a trivial, arbitrary assignation of value based on subjective personal attachment and preference.

>>4780769
>People will only choose who they like
Now wasn't that much easier to type out?

>>4780763
It's simple

Kill the batman

What about Eratosthenes? He calculated the circumference of the earth and the tilt of its axis over 2000 years ago.

>>4776806
the idea of ranking scientists like this is completely fucking retarted.

Stephen Jay Gould for top tier biologist.

>>4780788
The primary criterias that seems to be followed for the most part is original research and to what capacity the individual is able to do this with as few people as possible. Also how significant the effects the discovery has made to either the field or life in general.

>Linnaeus
>Nowhere to be found
Nope, this isn't any good.

you missed one

>>4776806
Fuck NO we're not. Euler should be in no less than God Tier

Langan is a fellow of the International Society for Complexity, Information, and Design (ISCID),[20] a professional society which promotes intelligent design,[21] and has published a paper on his CTMU in the society's online journal Progress in Complexity, Information, and Design in 2002.[22] Later that year, he presented a lecture on his CTMU at ISCID's Research and Progress in Intelligent Design (RAPID) conference.[23] In 2004, Langan contributed a chapter to Uncommon Dissent, a collection of essays that question evolution and promote intelligent design, edited by ISCID cofounder and leading intelligent design proponent William Dembski.[24]

>voltaire and aristotle in god tier
>not democritus and epicurus

>euclid in shit tier
>da vinci and godel not god tier

>no lorentz
>no von neumann

what the fuck are you doing?

>>4777722
>not realizing the importance of the cartestian grid

nice quad doubles

Op is a faggot.
So we're all in agreement?

Yall are getting trolled so hard.

Wait wait wait.

You mean you guys have never heard of Henry Cavendish?

Hes tesla teir. The man discovered physical laws but ignored them in favor of the conclusion! A true scientist.
>1740s
>discovered thermodynamics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cavendish

>>4782464
So shy that the only known picture of him was sketched without his knowledge.

Son of Lord Cavendish
>god teir

>>4782469
Cavendish discovering Ohms law in the 1700s.

Discovering about 8 different laws on his own which we now attribute to other people.

What the fucking fuck /sci/, the father of modern biology in mid tier with René "Circular reasoning" Descartes? Are you shitting me

Idolatry is for peasants and slaves. Be free.

I think we'll never be in agreement with the placement of all persons. But with which ideas to place at the top priority, that we may be able to.

Weinberg to Low Tier or below.

>>4783454
Why? Babby was too much of a faggot biologist to understand his SUSY book?

>>4776806
>Hubbel and Krauss in same tier
>Dawkins(who at least contributed to his field) in the same tier as Sagan
>Descartes in anything other then god tier

fullretard.jpg

Descartes and Sagan moved up, Voltaire moved down.

>>4783470

So much mad contained all in one post.

>>4778905

Newton was great BECAUSE he was Christian

>>4783491
>Gee, lets judge them based of what they were instead of by their achievements.

You and the guy who want to discount newton because he was a christian are fucking retarded.

>>4777785
>boring
You either haven't understood, or are a plebian of the lowest caste.

The highest rank a philosopher/psychologist should be able to achieve is mid tier. I don't care what they've done they should not be as high as some of those scientist.

>mfw tyson isn't god-tier

>>4783523

niggers cant into science

>>4783523

I'm a huge Tyson fan and even I think he is high-tier at best.

>>4782382

add him to troll tier

Kelvin is only top tier? Do you realize what he did in mathematics and science?

Euler in Shit Tier?!

What is Kepler doing with great minds like Maxwell in mid tier?

implying they didn't all enrich our lives

I still think Tesla deserves god tier. Do you people not know how much of an impact he has had on our lives? Not to mention his devotion. He lived a life of celibacy only because he was worried it would deter him from his work. Nowthat is dedication to science.

Can someone tell me what Tesla did exactly?
Except for inventing the tesla coil weapon which wasn't really successful (only used in C&C)

WHERE THE FUCK IS ARCHIMEDES?

WHY IS EULER ON THERE TWICE?

WHY IS GALILEO NOT GOD TIER?

Galileo is considered as one of the greatest contributor to the development of Science. It is undoubtedly true that Galileo could first helped science to come out of the trend of Aristotle. He was physicist, astronomer, and philosopher and his best known contributions lie in the development of Telescope, first two laws of motion and also in Astronomy. He is also considered as the father of astronomy, father of physics and father of science.

>no Socrates

?

>>4784014
Also

>no Platon

No Haber?

Or am I missing the point of this tier list?

No Noether
No Ramanujan
No Von Neumann

Edison needs to be moved to troll tier, that dirty bastard

>Aristotle in God Tier
>Voltaire in God Tier
>Plank, Feynman, Godel, Heisenberg, Schrodinger, Euler not in God Tier
>Euclid and Copernicus in Shit Tier
>Maxwell only in Mid Tier
No seriously, this needs a lot of improvement.

Euler is in there twice, both times to low.

>>4784077

THAT'S EUCLID NOT EULER

THERE'S A FUCKING DIFFERENCE!

>>4784181
No. There's a Euler in mid-tier and one in shit-tier.
Also, calm down.

>>4784207
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK LOOK AT THE PICTURE

>>4776897
That's good. shouldn't be changed.

Only big problem I have is Aristoteles being in god tier. He should be in low-tier.

>>4784230
No he should be in shit tier.

HURR DURR ELEMENTS
HURR DURR NATURE ABHORRS A VACUUM
He also tried to suppress more correct theories of science

Aristotle is a complete retard.

>>4784207
Yes, and if you look at the pictures, you'd notice they're not one and the same. The one in mid-tier is Euler and the one in shit-tier is Euclid.

what the fuck is this trash? >>4776806

>>4784271
and why should euclid be in shit tier?
that guy was the first one trying to axiomatise mathematics and having rigorous proofs.
He should be in god tier, if you care about mathematics

lmao, how much of a loser do you have to be to spend the time to arrange scientists into tiers?

>>4780606
You obviously know nothing of theoretical physics.

all who oppose will be hanged and quartered and shall be excommunicated from the holy mother church.

Most of them spend all their life hard working non-stop. Now you can think of many things that either offend everyone of them or just prove the idea of creating a tier list wrong.

I want troll in god tier tho'. I'm starting with convincing everyone again the earth is in fact flat. BELIEVE ME FOR FREE HAMBURGERS!

>>4784511
lol wat
This is where I live.
Awesome.

Francis Galton? Very cool polymath guy. I mean, read the top of the Wikipedia article on him. He was stupidly all over the place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton

Also a tropical explorer, lol.

Invented fingerprinting etc. Definitely my favorite.

>>4784241
But he did 'invent logic'.

-

Perhaps take a look at something like this:
http://www.adherents.com/people/100_scientists.html

Guys where is Freud

>>4784794
Probably in the "missing father figure" tier.

>einstein in god tier
>didn't even know particles could go faster than light
>even in the same tier as tesla
Physicsfags.

why is euler there twice?

Where is Abu Ali Al-Hasen, the Father of Modern Science?

>>4784826

Wh- what?

I told you. I told you dumbasses about Henry Cavendish.

Hes Tesla Teir.

Why.jpg

No ali-kwhawizmi?

THE FATHER OF FUCKING ALGEBRA

>>4784916
Bias? In MY /sci/?

Hardly a surprise.
Especially considering only teenagers make "this one is better than that one"-lists.

>maxwell behind hawking
>da vinci
>voltaire
>sagan

just no.

>Euclid misnamed to Euler
>Sagan, Cox and Tyson not in mid
>Euler, Hubble, and Galileo not in top
>Aristotle not in mid (being the first scientist does not make you a good one)
AHAHAH WHAT A FAGGOT

What about Lagrange?

Maxwell, Einstein, Dirac, Rutherford, Newton, Faraday are all deserving of God-tier before anyone else

>>4784941
Aristotle basically founded logic in a time without logic.
That's god-tier.

>stop studying start thinking tier

Would people stop bumping this stupid thread, it's not going to go any where...